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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
« Reply #30 on: Time Format »

If it's online, you can use your phone. That's a handheld supercomputer ;)
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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 :lol: BUT you also will need a interface unless your MP-2 has been modified with Bluetooth or WiFi  :facepalm:
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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It's definitely a fun project and I suspect we can probably nut out some of the missing sysex bits (no pun intended) with a bit of trial and error.  We have to watch out for scope creep as that will kill it but we can start simple with other ideas in mind so they can be added later?
But this is going down the "we'll" write/build it path, in which case it makes sense to make it browser based so it runs on most things.
There is allot of work in this approach BTW.

Adapting a library program module (where they let you) while being much easier and faster may lock it into one library package.  But there may well be some good free open source library programs we could use.  Lets all have a dig around for whats out there.

Open source is the go I recon too MJMP.
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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Ok sounds good!!
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
« Reply #34 on: Time Format »

:lol: BUT you also will need a interface unless your MP-2 has been modified with Bluetooth or WiFi  :facepalm:

How about a midi interface for the phone? That should do it. I have one for my iPod (the iRig Midi)
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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https://www.engadget.com/2015/07/21/zivix-puc-plus-midi-bluetooth/
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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waow ! awesome... but you need an app to control your old school ada gear ?
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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https://www.engadget.com/2015/07/21/zivix-puc-plus-midi-bluetooth/

That is VERY interesting!

Tomy: Yes. Have you ever tried to edit 10 banks of patches in your MP-2? It is a lot of button mashing, it would be much easier to simply copy/paste some of those settings in a spreadsheet or something like that.

I don't know how the rest of you heathens set up your patches, but I have a bank of 10 patches for each guitar. So, if one setting gets changed in one bank, it's probably getting changed 10-12 times for the other guitars.
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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following your idea when i rebuilt my gear, I did  the same on MP2 and now on mb1 too, I think it's a good way to manage preset
-1 guitar = 1 bank  :thumb-up:

But having an app for editing really help, I've tried the one with MP1... and it is way easier !
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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This also looks nice

http://www.miupanel.com/Overview

You can hook it up to an arduino or any other controller. So we could write an app for it and use an arduino (since these are very cheap to get) as an interface.
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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I just though of a band-aid type intermediate solution.  When you do a program dump/backup to PC (using one of the programs that let you do this), it's stored in a file pretty much as plain text (from the ones I've seen). If you open the file in a text editor (eg notepad), you can edit the patches, save as a copy. then reload them (unless there are any check sums involved). So Dante, your case, you could make the change to one bank then save/edit (all the banks) /load.

So the Puc will provide an interface (though ADA pre's don't support the bi-directional midi they talk about) we need an in and an out. Currently without using midi out the program won't know what the current settings are ??  Well that's my current understanding  :dunno:
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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Hey MJMP, the uPanel stuff looks good, would solve all the widget issues (at least for smart phone use).  Not sure how you'd access it from PC (Browser+wiFi ?)  Also we still have to connect to midi in/outs on the ADA.
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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I think it's best we make a PC editor first, because we have to do some figuring out how it all works. Most soundcards have a midi connection so we can use that to interface with the mp-x .And if that works we can start on a hardware interface for a phone or tablet? It's easy to use midi in and out on a arduino.

From what i can read if you change a parameter you also have to change the checksum?
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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I think it would be easier, if we write a whole program for ourselves, so we dont need to figure out, how the libraries are built up.

Since all values ar "just" HEX , it should be quite easy to transfer the HEX Codes.
IIRC, there are usable MIDI-Libraries for Languages like C/C# and so on.
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Re: ADA MP-1 Digital Modification
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I think it would be easier, if we write a whole program for ourselves, so we dont need to figure out, how the libraries are built up.

Since all values ar "just" HEX , it should be quite easy to transfer the HEX Codes.
IIRC, there are usable MIDI-Libraries for Languages like C/C# and so on.

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