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Koch ATR-4502 Power Amp

Started by rabidgerry, April 28, 2018, 07:20:42 AM

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Systematic Chaos

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Hey Gerry,

I'm looking forward to hearing your impressions once you get the amp.
Not to hi-jack your thread though....I been also eying the Palmer Macht 402. At 3.8kg and 2x100w @8ohms it also looks promising (especially at the price point of 288€ (Thomann)/245GBP (Andertons))
Review: http://blog.adamhall.com/en/2016/04/25/palmer-macht-402-powerhouse-test-report-by-gitarre-bass/

rnolan

Studio Rig: Stuff; Live Rig: More Stuff; Guitars: A few

rabidgerry

Quote from: Systematic Chaos on May 11, 2018, 03:37:45 PM
Hey Gerry,

I'm looking forward to hearing your impressions once you get the amp.
Not to hi-jack your thread though....I been also eying the Palmer Macht 402. At 3.8kg and 2x100w @8ohms it also looks promising (especially at the price point of 288€ (Thomann)/245GBP (Andertons))
Review: http://blog.adamhall.com/en/2016/04/25/palmer-macht-402-powerhouse-test-report-by-gitarre-bass/

I have also saw this amp and thought it would be a good buy.  I saw one second hand going for a very good price a few weeks ago, but I kinda had my heart set on the Koch.

I like the options that the Palmer has and would consider it had I not got two Velocity's, however, the Velocity Reactance vibe is a lot more appealing.  I dunno what that amp has inside it but it's very dynamic  It's not like a normal SS amp at all.  I heard the 150 isn't as good as the 300 also bare that in mind if you're making a comparison with the Palmer.  I'd love to try the Rocktron Mainline as well  :thumb-up:  But since we are talking weight here, Rockron amp get's ruled out.

The Palmer is very, very light!
"whadda ya want? we want Heavy Metal"

Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

Effects:  Ada Mp1, Peavey Rockmaster, Boss GX700 Boss SX700 * Amps:   Rocktron Velocity 300 - Koch ATR4502 - Peavey Classic 50/50
Cabs: 4 x Bugera 2 x 12"
Midi Controller: Behringer FCB1010

rabidgerry

Ok so the deal fell through, or rather I could not accept it as I was unable to avoid the VAT which drove the price up too much for me.  Shame.
"whadda ya want? we want Heavy Metal"

Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

Effects:  Ada Mp1, Peavey Rockmaster, Boss GX700 Boss SX700 * Amps:   Rocktron Velocity 300 - Koch ATR4502 - Peavey Classic 50/50
Cabs: 4 x Bugera 2 x 12"
Midi Controller: Behringer FCB1010

rabidgerry

The deal is a back on, the dude is gonna try help me out further on the price by seeing if he can get one with some cosmetic flaws that he can sell me with yet a further reduction.

Lets hope this amp at 90watts total is worth it.  I ain't spending £400 + on something that isn't going to destroy small buildings!
"whadda ya want? we want Heavy Metal"

Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

Effects:  Ada Mp1, Peavey Rockmaster, Boss GX700 Boss SX700 * Amps:   Rocktron Velocity 300 - Koch ATR4502 - Peavey Classic 50/50
Cabs: 4 x Bugera 2 x 12"
Midi Controller: Behringer FCB1010

rnolan

Hey RG, cool, I hope it works out  :metal: . And interested to get your opinion on it  :thumb-up: .
Ahhh  >:D destroy small buildings, my 72 Marshall 50 is good at that LoL, my record with that amp is you could here it clearly 13km away, through the bush/forest  :whoohoo!:
Studio Rig: Stuff; Live Rig: More Stuff; Guitars: A few

rabidgerry

Fire Power!  That's loud Richard.

I really hope this amp is up to the job.  I can't fathom these guy's making an amp that will not be loud enough to play in a live band setup.  I go to 4.5-5 on the volumes of my Rocktron Velocity, at gigs with only two cabs may be about 5-6.  Come on Koch don't fail me  :facepalm:  I have the money, I just need to wait until the factory opens back up again after holidays.
"whadda ya want? we want Heavy Metal"

Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

Effects:  Ada Mp1, Peavey Rockmaster, Boss GX700 Boss SX700 * Amps:   Rocktron Velocity 300 - Koch ATR4502 - Peavey Classic 50/50
Cabs: 4 x Bugera 2 x 12"
Midi Controller: Behringer FCB1010

rabidgerry

Well the deal is back on the table.  Should hopefully have the amp by next week!

Fingers crossed the amp is worth it.
"whadda ya want? we want Heavy Metal"

Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

Effects:  Ada Mp1, Peavey Rockmaster, Boss GX700 Boss SX700 * Amps:   Rocktron Velocity 300 - Koch ATR4502 - Peavey Classic 50/50
Cabs: 4 x Bugera 2 x 12"
Midi Controller: Behringer FCB1010

Dante

Good luck man, and let us know how it shakes out  :thumb-up:

rabidgerry

"whadda ya want? we want Heavy Metal"

Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

Effects:  Ada Mp1, Peavey Rockmaster, Boss GX700 Boss SX700 * Amps:   Rocktron Velocity 300 - Koch ATR4502 - Peavey Classic 50/50
Cabs: 4 x Bugera 2 x 12"
Midi Controller: Behringer FCB1010

rnolan

Cool  :whoohoo!: , looks a bit boxy though LoL.
Studio Rig: Stuff; Live Rig: More Stuff; Guitars: A few

rabidgerry

 :lol:  It does!

I wont get testing until Saturday.
"whadda ya want? we want Heavy Metal"

Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

Effects:  Ada Mp1, Peavey Rockmaster, Boss GX700 Boss SX700 * Amps:   Rocktron Velocity 300 - Koch ATR4502 - Peavey Classic 50/50
Cabs: 4 x Bugera 2 x 12"
Midi Controller: Behringer FCB1010

MikeB

Ooh,  Gerry.  You are such a tease!  :nono:
I don't feel tardy!

rabidgerry

haha not on purpose!  If I could test it right away I would!

Keen to see if what I have been told.  So it's 90 watts, but apparently delivers the same amount of DB as a class D 600-700watt amp.  I have a 400watt class D amp and that's loud as hell!  So looking forward to seeing if this claim is true.
"whadda ya want? we want Heavy Metal"

Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

Effects:  Ada Mp1, Peavey Rockmaster, Boss GX700 Boss SX700 * Amps:   Rocktron Velocity 300 - Koch ATR4502 - Peavey Classic 50/50
Cabs: 4 x Bugera 2 x 12"
Midi Controller: Behringer FCB1010

bunkyloo

Yeah I can't wait for the feedback on .t.