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Chris5150

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It records really, really well. I'm boosting mine with a Wazacraft SD-1 and it is totally nailing my tone. I think I've found my secret weapon.
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Hey all, I finally got my A/DA definition pedal in, and yes it was the missing link. Added it before the MP1 channel and now it feels very much like the rack unit. I am very pleased, hope to get some soundclips up soon.
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Cool, good to hear  :thumb-up:
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Love to hear some clips.
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Love to hear some clips.

+1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey guys, I'm sorry I've been lagging, I will try to get something up later today or tomorrow. I'll record it using my VHT 2/50/2 to a dummy load, and throw an IR of a EVH 4x12, so you can get the feel for the sound I am directly hearing.

Unfortunately, a downside of a tube pedal is that you should probably be more careful throwing it around, I had one of my NOS tubes go microphonic in it, probably from kicking it around too much. Threw another 7025 I had laying around and a HG+ ruby tube, sounds pretty good. It comes with 2 HG Ruby's which are pretty killer tubes, I just have a bunch of NOS sitting around to try. Thanks for your patience :)
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I got one just a few days ago from my wife for my birthday. I have only had a small play with it, got a few days off work in the next week when I give it a good run. I’ll let you guys know how it goes. My first impression is good but missing something.
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Alright guys, finally got some time. It is definitely missing something at first. I remedied mine with the ada definition pedal upfront, at 0 boost, just on, and with this cool little gizmo called the tech 21 Q strip. Holy shit this thing is amazing for pedals, it's like a mosfet console parametric EQ that you can crank up to 10 and get so much character. So my signal path is guitar - (bunch of random shit, whammy, mxr, etc, all analog or the digital is true bypass) - ada definition - MP1 channel - tech 21 q strip - ada cab sim gs5...thats it for the pedal board. Then I have that sent out to my Rane PE15, then out to a noise suppressor, out to a VHT 2/50/2 power amp, with American big bottel 6CA7's, turned up 3/4, into another ada gs5 cab sim, then into a load box so I don't blow up my poweramp. Then, line out from that GS5 into a Rane 6 channel mixer, out stereo to a Pitch factor (L -7 R +9 microshift), in stereo to a Time factor (set slapback 212 L 424 R). Then, the L+R is out to a Rane MPE14, which is finally sent into my apogee duet into Logic, using the OwnHammer EVH 4x12 greenback cab sim. It was a lot to make this thing sound cool, on it's own it doesn't contain all the magic. I think the MP1 rack stock is so much better to start, but I'm never dragging my holy grail MP1 racks out to the club, so this will have to do.

I know my signal chain is whacky, so I'll try to illustrate:

guitar ------- crap ------- noise gate1 (decimator 2)------ ada definition at 0 ----- ada mp1 channel ----- tech 21 q strip, level around 10, some mids cut to taste ------- ada GS5 1 ------- Rane PE 15 rack EQ, cut to taste ------ noise gate2 (decimator 2) ------- VHT 2/50/2 power amp with 6CA7s, set to 3/4 volume (only using one side) ----------- speaker out from VHT to ada GS5 2, the pass through goes to a PDI 06 power soak, the output goes into Rane SM26 mixer ------------- out mixer to in to the Pitchfactor, splits stereo with micropitch --------- left right out into different mixer channels ----- left right out to Timefactor ------ left right into mixer ----- mixer master left/right into MPE 14 --------- out into Apogee Duet/Logic, into the speaker sims split left right for stereo.

If you guys want I can do some more pure clips but this was way more fun  >:D

Oh yeah, used my OG 1984 Kramer Pacer Special with the SD EVH custom shop pickup.
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Hey man!

The overall tone is amazing and there's a lot of MP1's (Nuno's Pornograffitish) tone all around.
But there's so much stuff in the middle that's impossible to distinguish what the pedal is doing to your tone.

So, if you've time, it would be nice to hear the pedal and nothing else.  :thumb-up:
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No problem, I'll get some more clips this coming Sunday.

Honestly, after plugging into my holy grail MP1 today, after messing with this pedal the past few months, there is just a certain something that the real rack mount has that the pedal severely lacks. I've tried to compensate the best I can but the rack just does the job a lot better. I'll do a few of the same riffs with just the pedal, then add the definition, then add the tech 21 so you all can hear how it's coloring the tone, and make your own decisions on if this is worth it to you. I'm kind of digging the pedal board tone I get for my band, so I'm going to continue to use it, but it's morphed away from what I consider the MP1 tone is.
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No problem, I'll get some more clips this coming Sunday.

Honestly, after plugging into my holy grail MP1 today, after messing with this pedal the past few months, there is just a certain something that the real rack mount has that the pedal severely lacks. I've tried to compensate the best I can but the rack just does the job a lot better. I'll do a few of the same riffs with just the pedal, then add the definition, then add the tech 21 so you all can hear how it's coloring the tone, and make your own decisions on if this is worth it to you. I'm kind of digging the pedal board tone I get for my band, so I'm going to continue to use it, but it's morphed away from what I consider the MP1 tone is.

Thanks Chris!
It will be an interesting test.

Anyway, the MP1 tone...resides inside a MP1 only!  :headbanger:

An A/B comparison test among the pedal and the rack MP1 would be interesting as well, if you've time.
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Hey all, I was set to record today but a tube went microphonic. So far I've been through 2 tubes in this thing. I don't know if I'm being rough or something when I transport my pedal board, but I've gotta change some tubes so unfortunately no clips tonight.
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alright I stopped being lazy and swapped a new tube in.

first riff is just ADA mp1 channel, second is MP1 with the definition, 3rd is with the definition + q strip, 4th and ending is boss SD1 - definition - mp1 channel - tech21 q strip. The last is my metal tone I record with mostly.
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alright I stopped being lazy and swapped a new tube in.

first riff is just ADA mp1 channel, second is MP1 with the definition, 3rd is with the definition + q strip, 4th and ending is boss SD1 - definition - mp1 channel - tech21 q strip. The last is my metal tone I record with mostly.

Hey! Thanks for the effort!
I've to say that my preferred combination is MP1 channel + definition, the second one: it has the right bite.
Last tone, your main recording metal tone, is 100% James Hetfield's tone from Master of Puppets!
How did you set the pedal? How much gain for OD1 and OD2? Master? Eq?
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alright I stopped being lazy and swapped a new tube in.

first riff is just ADA mp1 channel, second is MP1 with the definition, 3rd is with the definition + q strip, 4th and ending is boss SD1 - definition - mp1 channel - tech21 q strip. The last is my metal tone I record with mostly.

Hey! Thanks for the effort!
I've to say that my preferred combination is MP1 channel + definition, the second one: it has the right bite.
Last tone, your main recording metal tone, is 100% James Hetfield's tone from Master of Puppets!
How did you set the pedal? How much gain for OD1 and OD2? Master? Eq?

I agree, the 2nd clip has the mojo, the definition really does act like the front end of the real MP1 with it set to 0.

for the MP1, master all the way up, bass at 11 o clock, mids at 10 o clock, treble at 1 o clock, presence max

od1 at 1 o clock od 2 at 2 o clock. The trick is not using so much gain.

Thanks man! glad you like it!

Edit: And of course, the ADA definition up front, at 0 boost. Anything more than 0 boost seems to make it a little mushy.

Last Edit: Also, the MP1 channel + definition has the same feel as the rack, which is very important. It gives the compression and pick attack back, which seemed to be lacking with just the MP1 channel. ADA should probably market both together if they want to sell it as the same tone.
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