Yes, the Cyber Twin has motorized pots in the amp section only. The Cyber Deluxe doesn't have those, but both amps work the same way. When you change to a different preset, the sound changes instantly, so it doesn't morph or ramp into the next preset. That's more about looks than it is function.
It's true they will sound different, but then again, they SHOULD sound different. Speaking of sounds, all the factory presets that come in the CT sound like
You have to go into edit mode with any preset sound you want to work with and flip one of the speakers out of phase before it will sound like a real amplifier. Then it comes alive and you can basically edit it to make it sound like something you can work with in a band situation.
I see what you mean about the chorus effect, I don't believe the MP-2 has that variable LFO feature like the QT does. That makes me even more curious about it. If I ever see one of those QT's at a decent price, I'll probably pick it up.
I also see in the flow chart that it shows the tube section as a "Class A" amp section. This part of the preamp should be the same as the MP-2, and the higher voltage in the QT should allow for more headroom in each of the tube voices.
BTW, the Cyber Twin came out after ADA went bankrupt. I believe the year was 1999 when it was introduced. I wasn't quite the same as the concept ADA built on. With ADA, you coud basically built your sound from the ground up to any degree the preamp allowed you to. So in effect, you sort of designed your own amp sound within the operational parameters that ADA built into the preamps.
With Fender, their concept was to be able to call up specific amp circuits that ranged from early vintage amps to modern high gain amps, and be able to tweak within the parameters of those amp circuits. In a way, this is more limiting than what you could do with ADA. As for the effects in the CT, I find that much more limited than in the Cyber Deluxe. You still have the same three groups of effects to choose from, (Modulation, Delay, and Reverb), but many of these are already set up as groups of effects with limited adjustments to each effect. If you are building an amp tone of your own, and wish to add effects to it, then it seems like you can only add one of the effects from one of the three groups. I'm still learning the amp though, so maybe there's a way to create my own effect group, I just don't know what it is yet. With the Cyber Deluxe, I can create a basic amp tone, then add any one, or all of the available effects to whatever degree I choose. You can definitely go on a deep dive with that amplifier, and it sounds great with factory or User preset programs. No matter which amp I'm using, both sound like super-sweet real time amplifiers, and not like modeling amplifiers which you can tell from the real thing right away. That's why I've kept these. If you couldn't see these amps onstage, you wouldn't know it was something like this.
From what I understand about these amplifiers, they are actual analogue amp circuits, but the effects are all digital. For me, that's a great setup
Fender claims this is what set these amps apart from modeling amplifiers.
Since you understand the circuits when you look at the schematics, maybe you can confirm this?
Harley
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