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jarrodthebobo:
Hi guys I just have a quick question:

For a while now I've been running all my effects (BBE, 15 band EQ, quadraverb, T.C Electronics alter ego, etc) AFTER the ADA mp-1 (From the output into the next unit).

Should I be running these effects through the FX loops?

I only ask this question as I've noticed that when I turn up the input volume of my Quadraverb (Which is the unit that last in line before my HUSH II which then goes into the Carvin TS100 (Turning up the input because output is maxed, the Quadraverb is acting as my final volume knob until going into the Carvin)), once it gets past a certain point/loudness (I mean I'm talking about LOUD, all the settings before this certain shaking-the-entire-house threshold sound great... I just want it to sound good at all volume settings in case I need all that volume), my sound starts to become farty, muddy, and kind of not too pleasant sounding. The clipping lights arn't going off, so nothing is being overloaded I assume...

Is this because those effects mentioned above should be in the Effects loop? Or does it not matter whether or not the units are in the effects loop or after the mp-1?

Thanks!

MarshallJMP:
I would keep it like it is because the effectloop isn't that good.But what i would change is that you put the hush before the quadra verb.Now this will not change your problem but it's better this way.

As for your problem,maybe you reached that point that you're overdriving the power amp and/or speakers or the quadra verb can't handle it anymore.

jarrodthebobo:
Thanks, but why would I put the HUSH before the Quadraverb exactly?

I decided to experiment and put everything in the loop, and it honestly sounds better there to my ears (for the moment at least). Could just be that I like the EQ and BBE in the loop better than after, as the unit sounded more natural and less compressed with everything in the loop now (But that could just be a placebo effect of me wanting this to sound better).

I'll continue playing around with things as they are, and putting this after the ADA again (however the HUSH II after the ADA sucks a whole lotta tone IMHO... while in the loop it does not.)

RandallRG:
Yeah man you have to do some experimenting. Like Marshall said (& has told me in the past about the MP-1 FX Loop not being so good?) I was running my Digitizer 4 in through the front of my Randall & it sounded o.k. I put it in the FX Loop & honestly (To my ears anyway) it sounds 100% better! So with all gear it's time to just check them out & see what like's what! I have tried my gear both ways just to see which way it sounds better. Anyway it's just my $0.02 Dude...Good Luck!  :metal:

MarshallJMP:
Well time based effects should be set always behind a noise gate,else it could cut of some delays or reverbs.

Now some like the loop some don't ,i guess it's up to your ears to decide what sounds good and what not.

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