Hi Guys,
I have recently acquired a small 1x12 combo Marshall and I'm considering swapping out the (4 ohm) G12m-70 Celestion for a V-type I found on Craigslist. The one thing I wonder about is, the speaker i'm looking at is a 16 ohm, intended to be used in a 2x12 to achieve an 8 ohm load. (I'm assuming the amp pushes a 4 ohm load because of the stock speaker) I know my amp will be fine going into a 16 ohm load with the 4 ohm load it sends, but my question is, will the 16 ohm speaker be less articulate?
I have plugged into 8 ohm cabs with a 4 ohm amp before and the amp seems to really get them to come alive, I'm wondering if that will happen with this combo and a 16 ohm speaker, or if it'll have the opposite effect?
Dante
I don't think sound wise it will change anything but you will loose a lot of output power. You will have 25% of the original power.
You definitely don't want to go the other way though...putting a 4 ohm speaker on an 8 or 16 ohm amp would be ugly.
Quote from: MarshallJMP on June 17, 2016, 12:36:34 PM
I don't think sound wise it will change anything but you will loose a lot of output power. You will have 25% of the original power.
That is not good...although it's loud, it's only 30w. Hmpf
Quote from: Kim on June 17, 2016, 12:36:34 PM
You definitely don't want to go the other way though...putting a 4 ohm speaker on an 8 or 16 ohm amp would be ugly.
I know that part, never try to force a firehose into a garden hose. :thumb-up:
Which amp are you thinking of using?
Quote from: GuitarBuilder on June 17, 2016, 01:51:22 PM
Which amp are you thinking of using?
The one mentioned here:
NAD!! Marshall 5010 Master Lead Combo (http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=1521.0)
Since the stock speaker is a 4 ohm, I have to assume the amp puts out 4 ohms, but I haven't confirmed that. I did find a schematic:
HERE (http://www.drtube.com/schematics/marshall/5010.gif)
If only I could read such things ;) haha
Well next to the speaker symbol it says 12" 4 ohm :lol:
LOL! I saw that, and just next to that it says 100 ohm! AH!
I found a pic online of the back panel, it says "this apparatus must be earthed" I think my apparatus must be earthed >:D
It also says: 30 Watt RMS / 4 ohm
and...Risk Of Shock, Do Not Open
Well... Risk of shock ; I'm sure that you DID open >:D
I think the Celestion V Type is my new favorite guitar speaker(s). Hope you like it as much as I do!
Hey Dante, as MJMP says you'll get around 25% of the power into 16 ohms. However, 16 ohm speakers are typically more sensitive, responsive and efficient than the lower impedance varieties which will off set this a bit.
Kim: I've read really great things about them. I may pull the trigger on a new 8 ohm version (they only come in 8 and 16)
Richard: Since I'd be cutting my ohm load in half, I guess I'd get a bit of that sensitivity with the 8 ohm as well (?)
As loud as this little combo is, I think it'd be okay for mic'ing, even at half power. I'm not totally against the sound I'm getting, I haven't had enough time to really play around with it. But, I do have a bias for the speaker that's in it, I'm not a fan.