New Speaker day

[rnolan]

Both of those ideas make sense.  The kick plates would be easiest and add a little less weight.  The cabs quite heavy, the 100w Lorantz 12s I went with are 3kgs heavier overall than the 75w.  Good tip about the car guys using them, I was wondering where to look for them.

[Harley Hexxe]

I used to get the Peavey ones. they are complete with the rubber ring and four clamps and screws to mount them.

I've found a couple for sale on ebay:

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[rnolan]

Thanks Harley     I'll have a look.  As an aside, I finally ordered a replacement NiCad battery for my Bosch cordless drill (the drill was made in Switzerland, or so it says).  I only procrastinated about it for a year or 2  since the original battery died completely. I finally found a replacement online (from Melbourne) and ordered it.  It's so dumb that the new battery will cost me more than I can buy a brand new drill for, but I like the Bosch and I hate throwing things out that still work fine...

[Harley Hexxe]

Richard,
I know what you mean. I just got a pair of batteries and a charger for a Milwaukee drill I bought in January from a guy. They have different size batteries for different applications. The ones I got are 4ah, but if I want more torque, I'll need to buy a battery that is 6ah or higher. Those cost almost as much as the drill itself.

[rnolan]

Ok some news, the cab got a mini work out tonight, rehearsing in my lounge room (it's so good to be able to do that, all my neighbours have asked me to turn it up (go figure)).  We are getting ready for out first proper gig, June 23rd  :whoohoo!: .  Nothing like a gig "line/peg in the sand" to get people motivated.  So the band loves the new cab, it sounded great, still a little tight (hey, brand new speakers), but I got to run it up a bit louder than the quieter late night test sessions.  So B200s on about 12 o'clock (it will go to around 3 o'clock ish live), vol pedal ~1/2 way ish (not full up yet).  And the separator plate is doing it's job, the stereo Fxs sounded good (even with the box vertical, which is probably how I'll use it mostly, really helps with the phase/flanging I get with the slant split stack I've been using (running in stereo) which is a sealed cab, and also this one is "semi" open back.  I had been pontificating about - stay with the rear mount or go front mount.  But that got easily decided when I tried to put a speaker in from the front. The front holes are 10" so it wouldn't fit without opening them up quite a bit.  Moreover, the 10" openings horn load the speaker a bit (no doubt the intension of whoever built this box originally).  The MP-2 clean sounds just melt you, the dirty sounds are good, particularly neck PU stuff, but I may need to tweak the patch EQ a little for bridge PU, but then I need to try it at normal (really loud) volume before I get too excited about tweaking it. 

Maybe the best way to describe it, is, they convey the (playing) energy really well, they sound "special" and a little distinctive, and it revved up the band, we belted out some good energy versions of the songs (lots of smiles etc.).  This box used to have 2 x 50w Eminence fender twin speakers in it (which I quite liked BTW), I have to say, the Lorantz 100 watters are way better  .

[Harley Hexxe]

Sounds like you're good to go then 

[rnolan]

Hey Harley, yes, I think it will be good for now  :whoohoo!: and I'm very happy with it so far.  But I want to go further (shrinking my rig) and make a 2 x 10" stereo combo, MP-2, Multi Fx, and 1 RU light weight power amp. So sort of making something similar to the Quad tube, but with the bits I have.  Anyway, that idea has been cooking in my head for quite a while now (since I have 4 MP-2s). 

But I also envisage a bigger rig where I use my ADA Slant Split stacks, and the 2 Messa P112s, and cab up (yet to be constructed) the 2 Altec 15s I have (still in their cardboard boxes and never used (yet), this bit of the idea is partially inspired by Kim BTW)) to sit under the P112s, and one of my Behringer 2442 desks (4 subgroups).  So the Split stacks fed by MP-2 stage outs > B200s, the P112s fed by MP-2 Cab Sim outs (as they have tweeters) and Altec 15s All powered by my Carvin DCM 2004L (basically 4 x 300w switched power supply 2 RU amp).  So desk ch 1 & 2 MP-2 stage outs, 3 & 4 MP-2 cab sim outs.  Desk main outs to B200s > split stacks, sub group 1&2 MP-2 cab sim outs > 2 channels of the DCM2004L > Messa P112s, and subgroups 3&4 MP-2 stage outs > other 2 channels of DCM2004L > Altec 15s.  The desk has 4 sends per channel which can all be post fader to feed 2 stereo rack Fxs which return down 4 desk channels and can be routed to any of the 4 sub groups or main outs (to combine wet/dry whatever sounds good).

[Harley Hexxe]

I've never tried anything like that rig Richard, so I can't really comment on it. Like you said though, you want to shrink your rig, but that goes in the opposite direction 

[rnolan]

Hey Harley, I'm just dreaming up ways to use most of my gear at the same time.  I'd probably also throw in my '73 Marshall (with or without power soak) > spare slant split stack as a dry addition and maybe feed it from a mixer monitor send  .  It wouldn't be very practical, though would probably sound good, albeit very loud  >:D .  As you say, I've been trying to shrink my rig so it fits in my car boot/trunk and is easy to move etc.  And the next extension of that journey is to make a 2 x 10" combo if/when I get around to it.  But for now, the new(ish) cut back setup (4 RU rack, 2 x12" cab) will do fine.

[Dante]

No sooner did I put together my tiny gig rig (lunchbox head with two small 1x12 cabs), then I figured out how to run stereo with my bigass combo amp. The whole reason for the small rig was to avoid carrying that monster combo.

Much more load in now, more load out, but much more 'ambiance' at gigs...so   ;)

[Harley Hexxe]

I know it's hard to resist when you have all that gear and you know how good it sounds on a stage when you're moving a lot of air. Trust me I DO know that feeling.

These days, I don't take my ADA gear out to gigs, but I will take it to a studio when I want to track some good tracks, but no live gigs. That's why I bought the Fender Cyber amps. They do a good enough job and I don't risk damaging the rack gear. Plus, they can get as loud as I need, or I can dial them in as low as I need to, and they provide most of what my rack systems do, and it's a lot more compact. The only issue is I can't take those to smaller clubs that don't want amplifiers at their gigs.

I just picked up a Boss GP-10 to use with my CG-1 Stratocaster to see how that sounds and what it has in it. So far, it's an interesting piece of equipment. I'm still learning about it, and I'll probably start a new thread on it soon.

[rnolan]

Hey Harley, the GP-10 looks interesting and IIRC your CG-1 has the pickup for it installed factory.  Looking forward to your posts about it.  I had a fiddle with a friends GR-55 (I think he has) using his Godin nylon string guitar (which has the PU built in).  You can get some pretty amazing sounds.  Tony Mckenzie's review https://tonymckenzie.com/roland_boss_GP-10_synthesiser_effects_unit__inside_and_out_review.htm is pretty interesting.

[Harley Hexxe]

Hey Richard,

    The CG-1 Strat has all the electronics in it already, yes. I bought it 7 years ago because I wanted to get the GR-55, and they stopped making the CG-1 at the end of 2016.

    The more I researched what these things would do the less I was sure the GR-55 is what I want. I may still get one and learn it, but I'm thinking what I really want is the SY-1000.

    These three units are the only things that the CG-1 will plug into. I got the GP-10 just to see how it would do as a fly rig kind of thing. So far, all I'll say is it's interesting.

[rnolan]

Hey Harley, I like the idea as an addition so you can make lots of interesting sounds if/when you need them.  The distorted guitar with the Godin nylon and the GR-55 was (surprisingly) passable but no where near what we get from our ADA preamps.  Also bending the nylon strings was a chore.  But if you wanted a flute  :whoohoo!: , and I suspect sax would also sound reasonable.

[Harley Hexxe]

Hey Richard,

  I think we're getting a bit off topic here, so I'm going to start a new thread on what we're talking about.