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ADA Preamps => Original MP-1 => Topic started by: Sirion on November 06, 2017, 08:21:40 PM

Title: MP-1 & G-System
Post by: Sirion on November 06, 2017, 08:21:40 PM
First of all, I am doing a PhD on the other side of the globe from where my rig is, so I'm going to ask here about things that I otherwise would have spent time experimenting with myself. When I get to play the whole thing for a week a year it is good to be able to limit setup time to the bare minimum. (This will fortunately change next year.)

So, I got a G-System earlier this year, and in a couple of days I will finally have the opportunity to set it up with an MP-1. The G-System sounds great, but it is well known that it can be somewhat whimsical. I have read the Laird White Paper well, but I would be very interested in hearing of any experiences people here have had with this combination.

I will be sending the two units above in wet/dry into either a Marshall solid state 9040 or a tube 9100 power amp, and from there into a stereo 4x12 with Greenbacks.

The first question is where I should put the FX loop section of the G-System. In the MP-1 FX loop (probably not!)? In the output? Line or instrument level? If the latter, do I have to compensate somehow?

Any experiences with this combination would be very interesting to hear of.
Title: Re: MP-1 & G-System
Post by: Soloist on November 06, 2017, 09:01:55 PM
I have been toying with the idea of a G-system for the past few months. While I don't have any actual experience with that unit I can point you to someone who can. If you go on you tube and search "g system video's" you will find that channel is Scott's and he has over 300 g system videos, including set ups and tones. He did some promo demo work for TC Electronics, great player and a nice guy. He didn't hook one up to an MP1 but he does hook one up to a JMP1. Ideally that's the set up routing you want.
Title: Re: MP-1 & G-System
Post by: rnolan on November 07, 2017, 03:52:44 AM
Wow, interesting gadget. Unfortunately it's mono in, stereo out  :facepalm: .
So 2 ways come to mind (unless you want to run mono in and loose half the MP1 (stereo chorus mostly)). These 2 options preserve stereo of both units.

1. Use a small 4 channel desk/mixer with one FX send:
Guit > G-Sys in, G-Sys 5th Element send > MP1 in, MP1 fx loop send OR mixer fx send > 5th Element rtrn, MP1 A/B out > mixer chan 1 & 2, G-Sys L/R out > mixer 3 & 4, Mixer L/R out > stereo poweramp etc.

2. Guit > G-Sys in, G-Sys 5th Element send > MP1 in, MP1 fx loop send > 5th Element rtrn, MP1 A/B out > stereo poweramp 1, G-Sys L/R out > stereo poweramp 2 etc (so kind of wet/dry but needs 2 poweramps and appropriate speakers  >:D ).

However, if you can individually pan the G-Sys loop returns  :dunno: (and depending how the G-Sys loops work (normally loop in/out toggles the return on/off and send stays active)) you could go:
Guitar > G-Sys in, Loop1 send > MP1 in, MP1 Out A/B > Loop1 & Loop2 returns, G-Sys L/R out > stereo power amp
Title: Re: MP-1 & G-System
Post by: Sirion on November 10, 2017, 11:27:58 PM
Hah! I've actually bought quite a few patches from Scott in the past, but I didn't think so far as to look at the rest of his rig! But yes, that should do the trick nicely. You guys rock!  :homer:
Title: Re: MP-1 & G-System
Post by: SAVANNAH on January 23, 2018, 02:07:32 AM
It's a great content for me, which will give me a better understanding.
Title: Re: MP-1 & G-System
Post by: Dante on January 23, 2018, 11:38:24 AM
Chucky used a G-system with his...hit him up