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Title: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Dante on March 05, 2017, 07:05:10 PM
How many of you wanted a Steinberger back in the day? I did. Then, my bass player got one, then Eddie (EVH)....man, I wanted one bad.

Today's the day, I finally got a Steinie, and it's pretty cool. I played it a lot today, the trem is badass, stays in tune very well. The feel is very similar to my Vee, with a couple fins cut off. I'm not especially fond of the 'designed by EMG' pickups. It's an HSH config, and I can already see myself getting a SD JB for the bridge and an HFS Classic II Alnico 2 for the neck....maybe. I am not sure how this thing is wired (I'm about to find out), but the single coil sounds are just as loud as the HB sounds.... :???: or, maybe they're just louder than splitting the coils of my typical HB pickups, either way, they're more balanced in volume. The tone is pretty mediocre, cleans are not good IMHO, very sterile and lifeless. The gains sound passable, but it could be the ADA doing the talking

Haven't decided on a name yet, but here's a pic
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Soloist on March 05, 2017, 08:17:26 PM
Very nice Dante! :thumb-up:
I've got to admit I always wanted a Stein especially once EVH started using one.
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: rnolan on March 06, 2017, 01:02:02 AM
Go Dante  :thumb-up: , I've never wanted one, but I do understand, and I'm glad you got one finally  :whoohoo!: .
Interesting you name you guitars LoL.. I've only ever named one, my JPLP I called "precious" one night when it was glowing at me and that stuck.  My ex named my Anderson "Angry (Anderson)", partly coz it's bright red and sort of after Angry Anderson from Rose Tattoo (now there's a kick arse Australian band...)
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Systematic Chaos on March 06, 2017, 01:33:02 AM
Nice, a paddle!
I can totally understand what you mean by the "designed by EMG" pups not being your cup of tea.
Careful though with putting an SD JB in there....there´s not that much wood (or composite) to provide a rounded tone so the JB might be too spiky in the highs with not enough low mids/lows.
If it´s gotta be an SD I´d go with either the 59/Custom Hybrid TB-16 or an SD Jason Becker Perpetual Burn.
DiMarzio Tone Zone DP155 (I have one lying around...had it since the 90s so it´s also really tone aged by now...lemme know),  DiMarzio Super 3 DP152 or DiMarzio Breed DP166 (....I have one of those up for grabs as well in 3 weeks *lol*) might also be good choices worth a try
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Soloist on March 06, 2017, 06:37:46 AM
Angry Anderson, that's great! I call my red Jackson Angry Redhead, my blue ESP is baby blue, Silver Flake Jackson is Crackle Jack and red Ibanez is red rebel.
Yeah I name mine as well. :lol:
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Kim on March 06, 2017, 04:55:47 PM
How many of you wanted a Steinberger back in the day?

All those times I'd let the venue's Load-In door slam shut behind me only to find I was now locked out.  :facepalm:
I certainly could've used one to wedge into the door frame to keep the door from closing and latching while I was carrying gear...   :P :P :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Kim on March 06, 2017, 04:57:37 PM
How many of you wanted a Steinberger back in the day?

All those times I'd let the venue's Load-In door slam shut behind me only to find I was now locked out.  :facepalm:
I certainly could've used one to wedge into the door frame to keep the door from closing and latching while I was carrying gear...   :P :P :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Shaddup you"  in 3......2.....1......   :D
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Dante on March 06, 2017, 06:52:30 PM
shaddup

YOU

Ima put a big sticker on the front of it to make it look like EVH's  :headbanger:

SC: I was expecting you to tell me to get a crunchlab and a liquifire in there  :wave:  I kinda suspected my usual PUs wouldn't work in this tiny axe. Any suggestions are welcome. I wanna get a clean round neck PU - almost hollow body sounding. My bridge PU tone is standard ol' rock (think about the opening guitar riff of Limelight or Highway to Hell, same raw tone) - I can get my preamps to do all the other stuff (mod rock, metal), as long as I have a good hot pickup that plays chords clearly in crunch mode.
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Systematic Chaos on March 06, 2017, 07:06:39 PM
...

SC: I was expecting you to tell me to get a crunchlab and a liquifire in there  :wave:  I kinda suspected my usual PUs wouldn't work in this tiny axe. Any suggestions are welcome. I wanna get a clean round neck PU - almost hollow body sounding. My bridge PU tone is standard ol' rock (think about the opening guitar riff of Limelight or Highway to Hell, same raw tone) - I can get my preamps to do all the other stuff (mod rock, metal), as long as I have a good hot pickup that plays chords clearly in crunch mode.

PM'ed   :wave:
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: rabidgerry on March 07, 2017, 01:42:12 AM
some steinbergs put to good use

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esnllGaiVKE
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: rnolan on March 07, 2017, 04:09:40 AM
I kinda suspected my usual PUs wouldn't work in this tiny axe. Any suggestions are welcome. I wanna get a clean round neck PU - almost hollow body sounding. My bridge PU tone is standard ol' rock (think about the opening guitar riff of Limelight or Highway to Hell, same raw tone) - I can get my preamps to do all the other stuff (mod rock, metal), as long as I have a good hot pickup that plays chords clearly in crunch mode.
Then IMHO the Gibson 57's (such great sounding PUs) or even the 59PAF thingy (that they put in my JPLP mmm) would suit you well  :thumb-up: .  I've got a SD JB bridge and Alnico neck in the cupboard gathering dust, they had a very brief outing in my SG, not that they were bad, just didn't inspire me  :dunno: .  Now I have 57s in the SG (crap they were expensive ($300 AUD each ouch) but worth every cent and they are cheaper now IIRC..). IMHO they will deliver the (raw) tone you describe.
I also very much like the 59 PAF in the JPLP (neck), very creamy PU but still has bight.
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Samuraipanda on March 07, 2017, 12:00:18 PM
I always wanted a Steinberger but the full body version that Vito played on Big Game.

https://youtu.be/n0phDcqA7v4 (https://youtu.be/n0phDcqA7v4) 
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Dante on March 07, 2017, 11:31:18 PM
I always wanted a Steinberger but the full body version that Vito played on Big Game.

https://youtu.be/n0phDcqA7v4 (https://youtu.be/n0phDcqA7v4)

I remember those - LOVED them.

Gerry - I think the Venom singer has a killer voice. How he plays those bass riffs while singing, is beyond my scope of musicianship. I simplify my guitar part or my singing part, or I screw it all up - lol.
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Dante on March 10, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
UPDATE: I have stylized this thing like Eddie's, just waiting for the pickups to arrive so I can put her back together
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Systematic Chaos on March 10, 2017, 10:33:09 PM
Watch some Van Halen: Live without a net! Pups are just a few klicks out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1NmPFgdt6Y
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on March 11, 2017, 05:18:57 AM
I have the VHS of that whole concert! It's a pretty good live show all the way through :thumb-up:
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: MikeB on March 11, 2017, 12:37:48 PM
Man,  I was totally in the woods, musically until I was in my mid to late teens.  No real influences in my family or many of my friends for that matter. I must have been 15 or 16 when someone first gave me a listen of OU812. I was immediately sucked in. Then I saw Live Without a Net. My jaw hanging open the whole time thinking "I want to do that!". Then I met rnolan (he was 30,  I was 17)and I mentioned that I was interested in learning to play guitar. He immediately began grooming me to be an ADA slut. My first lesson was on his Anderson plugged into his rack with a full backing track just playing a C major scale.  :headbanger:

So,  that clip has been a fantastic little trip down memory lane for me. Thank you.  :banana-dance:
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: rnolan on March 12, 2017, 03:42:34 AM
Wow Dante, looking good  :thumb-up: What PuPs are you putting in it ?

Hey Mike, "grooming"  :dunno: LoL
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: MikeB on March 12, 2017, 03:16:37 PM
Hey Mike, "grooming"  :dunno: LoL

Yeah. Grooming as in "prepare for a position".  He was being groomed for management.
It can also be used to describe a paedophile preparing a child for sex. I certainly did NOT mean it in that context. Having said that, you did take an impressionable teenager and turn him into a rack whore.
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: rnolan on March 13, 2017, 03:36:39 AM
Well not entirely, you did buy a Marshall combo  >:D along the way.
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Dante on March 22, 2017, 11:28:17 PM
Okay, update time!!

There is an Ibanez V8 in the bridge that has been modified with a ceramic magnet. The result is much better articulation from the open chords with a fairly heavy drive tone. Very nice. I tried a DiMarzio Tone Zone initally, but it seems to be busticated - I'm going to send it back to DiMarzio....more news to come.

I have an Ibanez QM2 in the neck right now that sounds amazing on distorted leads. I find it mediocre on clean tones, which is a drag because most of my clean tones are done using the neck PU. I see another neck PU in my future.

It plays pretty well, sounds much better, and best of all, looks cool. I'm stoked because I got a good little giggin' axe for $250

 
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Systematic Chaos on March 23, 2017, 04:06:00 AM
Glad you like the modded V8.....the folks at DiMarzio will take care of the ToneZone, no doubt.
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: rnolan on March 24, 2017, 06:01:03 AM
Hey Dante cool, it's really getting there  :thumb-up: and does look great. Don't know if it's on your radar but the Gibson 57 and 59 PAF reissues are very good PUs in the neck, nice and creamy for bluesy solos and quite good clean sound, my preference is the 57 (have one in my SG) the JPLP came with a 59 PAF in the neck (which I played for days and days when I got it...). And a SD little 59 would go well in the middle position (and you could do some cool switching on it).
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Dante on March 29, 2017, 12:04:04 PM
Update again:

DiMarzio has a 5 year warranty, so I will be repairing ( or destroying) the Tone Zone myself.

Played this lil gizmo at a gig last weekend, it sounded and played great. I had to tune down a half step, which caused some residual tuning issues, but otherwise the guitar was awesome.

Pix below; 1st one = crowded dance floor (can you find the singer?) 2nd one = somebody actually took a picture of me, 3rd one = guest singer covers a couple of Journey tunes for us

Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: rnolan on March 30, 2017, 11:55:53 PM
Hey Dante, great to see you having fun and giving the SB a run  :whoohoo!: :thumb-up:
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Systematic Chaos on March 31, 2017, 12:33:12 AM
Update again:

DiMarzio has a 5 year warranty, so I will be repairing ( or destroying) the Tone Zone myself.

Played this lil gizmo at a gig last weekend, it sounded and played great. I had to tune down a half step, which caused some residual tuning issues, but otherwise the guitar was awesome.

Pix below; 1st one = crowded dance floor (can you find the singer?) 2nd one = somebody actually took a picture of me, 3rd one = guest singer covers a couple of Journey tunes for us

Bummer with the TZ!! I´m glad that the modded V8 works for you for the time being.
Your new band looks like fun! Rock on!
Title: Re: NGD! Steinberger Alert!!
Post by: Zilthy on April 01, 2017, 07:15:42 PM
Nice guitar!  I could never use a Steinberger myself though.  I just cannot get this out of my head when I think of one:

How can we have decent instruments when we really don't even know how to play?

That is why we need Eddie Van Halend!