Hey Harley, quite a journey  .  When I mentioned using the GP-10 in the loop it was in response to you saying you wanted to just try the FX on their own (no synth mixed in), and it struck me as a good way to get great guitar tones (MP-2) and see how the FX compare with your rack FX.  Also good for recording as the cab sim outs on the MP-2 do a very reasonable job, they are also very useful if you wanted to use full range monitors or do a direct desk feed. 

But obviously, if you are to use it as a nice small fly away rig, you need to get the guitar tones humming and then add stuff to that.  From what you've said/experienced so far, it would seem you need to do a hybrid setup, guitar into one amp, synth stuff etc. into its own dedicated amp(s).  BTW how does it do guitar sounds? are they modelled?

I have the same problem with the pan head screws that come with the D'Addario click lock straps, those screws will mess up your case.

The ones with the rubber washers are cool too, same size as the rubber ones I got. Same screw holding them in too.

If you look at the wall behind us, you'll see two 1x12 Thiele cabs. That's my rig. The rack is next to the speaker on the left, the sun was coming out & I put some white paper (or a shirt) in front of the rack to keep it cool, later we moved an umbrella over there.

I have no idea what voice that was, coulda been spanky clean, crystal clean, I don't know....long time ago. Keyboards were a bit quiet and my guitar was a bit loud...not that I'm complainin 

That kid with the horse mask stole the show, fo sho - we all laughed about that for a while

That was fun! Sounded good too for a live recording.

So....where did you hide your rig Dante? 

Was that with the Crystal Clean voice? I think the cleans in the MP-2 have a lot more presence in a mix because of the EQ structure in the preamp, but you can get close to this with the MP-1 in SS Voice. It's harder to get this punchy of a clean tone with the Classic though. I'll bet I could do it with the right power amp coupled with the Classic.

P.S. That little girl with the Mr. Ed mask was cracking me up.

Dante,

  Yeah, Run To You has a very definite single coil sound to it, but it's combined with a chorus and slight slap back delay and reverb. The chorus in the GP-10 was a little slow, but it was better when I sped up the rate a little, and it nailed that tone with my Elite.

   That Roadstar II is a pretty good quality guitar, highly underrated at the time. That was before Ibanez got endorsements from some high profile players I guess. The CG-1 still has the stock pickups in it, and they're not even Fender pickups. I think they are Roland single coils with ceramic magnets, and the guitar isn't set up either, so the action is much higher than my Fender guitars.
I'm going to wait until I have all the hardware and pickups to install in it before I set it up. It's going to be a little tricky as I will have to set the string radius according to the curve of the hexaphonic pickup instead of the fretboard radius. Then I have to set the sensitivity for each string on that pickup. (This is the guitar I want to use the Vega-trem on with a LSR roller nut and locking tuners). I may even have my local luthier shave the neck into a "v" profile. As for the pickups, I'm trying to decide if I want to go with the Zexcoil hybrid set or one of the single coil sets. I think I'll go with the hybrid set and use a push-push volume pot to tap into single coil mode. I like versatility in my guitars.

   Out of all my guitars, I really like the Elite more than the others. Don't get me wrong, they all sound very good and have a different character that is unique to each one, and I can't get any one of them to sound like the other ones, even my two "stock" Strats are noticeably different. I suppose if I found a set of Strat pickups from the early 80s, I could make my '57 RI sound close, but I like the vintage 60s pickups that are in it now. It'll take some time, but I'll eventually play all my guitars through this pedal and see what it does with each one.

Richard,

   Actually, I think running it into the effects loop of any of the preamps might not be such a good idea, (at least for the synth sounds). If I use it just as a guitar processor for effects, that might be okay, but it doesn't have the outputs to separate them. It would sound better if I sent those outputs directly to its own power amp and cabs. The GP-10 has a guitar input and guitar output, then it has a left (mono) and right output that combines the guitar and synth tones in it. If I use any kind of preamp at all with the combined tones, I think a channel strip on a mixing desk would be the way to go. Any of the ADA preamps would be too powerful and probably not sound too good. I might give it a go just to try it, but honestly, I'm not optimistic.

   I didn't buy this pedal to use it with any existing amp set up originally, I wanted to see if it would work as a stand-alone amp-less fly rig. I'm just trying to figure out which set up will work best for me. For me, tone is everything. I just have to figure out the right way to edit this to get the best sounds out of it. I'll admit though, having all these options can be a little distracting.

Dante,

Maybe those are the ones at Ace Hardware, with the nails coming out of the back. But the only ones I've seen are plastic.

I'd rather use the sphinx glides that just replace one of the screws in the cabinet corners. Funny thing though, they used to come with button head screws and I'd always replace them with flat head screws so they wouldn't protrude out from the bottom of the glides. I didn't need them scratching up the wood floors. The other thing I like about the glides is that they have that soft rubber molded into the metal cup. That helps isolate the amp vibration from transferring to the floor.

YES!

They're like low profile metal feet, meant to 'slide' rather than grab the floor of the stage like a rubber foot would.

If I remember correctly, weren't they like nails on the back? Like you shoved them into the wood?

That's what I'm talking about

Run To You: That is a CLASSIC Strat single coil tone! I used to play that all the time in the 80s with my Ibanez Roadstar II, which had some very nice single coil tones, but the action was higher than a redwood (I didn't know anything about setting up a guitar at the time)

I think you're right by starting with the best guitar voice, then adding effects to suit your taste. 

Here's an old video from 2016 or 2017, summer party and crawdad boil. This was just a couple years before my MP-2 died (and then was resurrected later). Check out the clean tones!

The MP-2 has the cleanest cleans of all the ADA preamps, I think.



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