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Title: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: Griphook on January 19, 2016, 12:11:10 PM
Hello, it's me,

I was wondering if.....

you Guys could tell me the critical temperatures of the MP-1. Especially the maximum temperature inside the Rack
All I can find in the manual(s) concerning heat is stated here:
"1.3 PRECAUTIONS
WARNING:
To prevent fire or shock hazard. do not expose this appliance to rain or moisture.
Locate the MP-1 out of the direct rays of the sun. Avoid locations subject to vibration and excessive dust, heat, or cold. "


I need to know, becaus I'm planning to just to paint my selfmade Rack-Cover with my Band Logo or sth. else.
On the second picture you can see the inside of that Rack(it is 8U with Air-Inlets on both sides).
So how warm will the ADA get and do I have to leave the Rack completely open while in use, or can i close the Front?
And when I close the front, do I need to install Fans?

Thanks and Greetings from Germany
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: rnolan on January 20, 2016, 02:32:47 AM
Hey Griphook and greetings from Australia  :wave: Hard to be definitive regarding a critical temperature, I'd say that if you have the back open and with the side air inlets it should be ok to close the front. What else is in the rack that produces heat (eg poweramp ?). In the end fans wouldn't hurt just to help dissipate the heat (I'd configure them to push the hot air out around the top or top of the sides). Or as Mike just suggested you could use speaker grill cloth and paint that ?

The MP1 can probably get quite hot without too much issue, lots of people used them directly on top of a B200s poweramp (you can fry an egg on top of a B200s). The heat just needs to be able to get away (chimney effect).  The critical temperature will be where other components in the MP1 break down as the tubes themselves will be resilient to heat (up to a point) although they probably don't last as long if they're very hot ?

Cheers R
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: Griphook on January 20, 2016, 07:50:11 AM
Hey R,

so far there is just the TC-Electronic G Major 2 which is stated to a maximum of 50° Environment Temperature. But I'm planning to put a Mesa Fifty/Fifty on the Bottom.
So since the ADA seems to be designed to withstand relatively high temps I think I'll go with the safety and install some Fans. 8) And then some Dust-Filters covering the side-inlets.

When did Mike suggest it? Your Post is the only one I can see. :dunno:
So my Rack would look like A Cabinet(if done correctly). Nice Idea, didn't think of that.  :thumb-up:

Greets :)
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: rnolan on January 20, 2016, 07:14:48 PM
Hey Griphook, Mike was at my place last night and we were chatting about it.  Also we talked about a fully loaded rack and how that was similar to covering the front except for the small gap between each unit.  The Mesa will add the most heat, IIRC they have a fan ?. Adding a fan or two to the rack is prudent. As long as the heat can get away all should be good.
Cheers R
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: Griphook on January 21, 2016, 03:42:47 AM
Okay, thanks for the hints :-) I think i'll go with the Speaker-Look-alike
As soon as i built all Up, I will Post some pics of my Setup in the rig pix Thread :-)

Great Forum btw  :thumb-up: :bow:
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: rnolan on January 21, 2016, 10:00:35 PM
No worries, look forward to the rig pics  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: Griphook on January 24, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
Are you sure that Speaker Cloth will let through enough air? Of course with Fans blowing air out of the back.
Im a bit afraid of this finely woven fabric. And real metal grid is rather expensive.
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: El Chiguete on January 24, 2016, 06:33:44 PM
You can 1) put the poweramp on the top spaces so that the heat from it doesnt go to you other rack gear or 2) send me that poweramp and I will buy you a solid state one so that things dont get hot! :)
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: rnolan on January 24, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Are you sure that Speaker Cloth will let through enough air? Of course with Fans blowing air out of the back.
Im a bit afraid of this finely woven fabric. And real metal grid is rather expensive.
IMO the speaker cloth will be fine and you could probably get away with no fans.  But with fans, should be all good  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: MP-1 | Maximum Working/Environment Temperature
Post by: Griphook on January 25, 2016, 01:55:19 AM
Hey El,
Didn't think of that possibilty either. I'll give it a try as soon as I can afford the Mesa. Im Sorry but i will keep it for myself :P

Thanks R. I got some Fans lying around so this wont cost anything :-)