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Non ADA Gear => Amps => Topic started by: NorthShaun on March 13, 2014, 07:03:24 AM
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As being the best rackmount poweramp to use with an ADA MP1 3TM? OK, it goes without saying that an ADA poweramp is best.... so whats 2nd best, and what do you use? Heard good & bad things about the Rocktron velocity 300?!
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I've not had the 3TM, but did have a stock MP-1...
Ran it with the ADA Microtube and thought it was great. I later got a Rocktron Velocity 100 but never used it with the MP-1, but it was clean, clear and open. The 300 has "reactance" controls which adds some bottom end/depth that the 100 doesn't have, but I haven't been disappointed with any Rocktron gear yet.
I hear great things about the 50/50 Mesa as well...
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Good Stuff, although the Mesa stuff can be a bit pricey over here in the UK, the Rocktron looks a good alternative at about 33% of the price. Currently using a 20yr old Peavey 160watt a side 3U poweramp, which still works fine (but weighs as much as a small car). Can't help feeling that SS amps have come on somewhat in the intervening years!
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I'm currently using a Carving TS100 power amplifier. It's very clean sounding and doesn't color the sound too much. It has a bridged mode of 100 watts, and each channel is 50 watts independently, and each channel has an independent volume and presence control. The amp can also run 6l6s and el34s (either the two different types in each channel, or just all 4 tubes of the same type).
My ADA sounds absolutely fantastic through this power amp, and I highly recommend it.
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Also, check out the ISP Technologies Stealth... very small and compact. If it's anything like the power section of my ISP Theta Combo, it rocks... can't go wrong with ISP stuff...
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If you want a bargain SS amp, look at the MosValve or the ADA B200s, both of which sound great and don't weigh nearly as much as a car :)
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I can vouch for Dante on the Mosvalve 962, they just work together very very well. High end is not harsh like other SS amps can be and has a way of bringing out the midrange in a good, non-woofy fashion. I also own and can vouch for the B200S though I like it better with my MP-2.
By the way: Dante and Richard, thanks for the B200S recommendation for the MP-2, its been 4 months and I am really diggin' it now. It's my Funkadelic blaster at the moment with my MXC + Expansion pack. Also getting some killer stoner metal rhythm out of this setup too! :whoohoo!:
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Hey kawai2g4b, no worries great to hear :thumb-up: , I used a B200s with both my MP1 and MP2 rigs, great amp and as Dante says not as heavy a a car (but not as light as a switching power supply amp e.g. the Carvin DCM200L (http://www.carvinworld.com/products/DCM200L) only 1.8kgs).
For me, the B200s is the perfect choice, I've heard good things about the Carivin DCM200L, I currently use a Carvin TS100 and love it, great amp but it's a tube amp, it's heavy, mine gets its own 2 RU case.
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Hey NothShaun, these are really good value, super light and new, I though they'd cost a bit more then this, $400 ish AUD (http://www.proaudio.com.au/shoppingcart/products/Carvin-DCM200L.html), by the time you'd got a B200s and shipped it etc (which BTW has no presence knobs), it could cost the same if not more. Anyway, food for thought.
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I also have a Rocktron Velocity 300 amp around, but an older version..
Personally, I am very satisfied, very clean amp with lots of harmonics.
It is not a tube-amp, but nevertheless one of the best solid-amps.
The newer version, I am not aware of, but presumably it will sound good :]
Grtz Zettx
Link : http://www.attix.be/rocktron-velocity-300.htm (http://www.attix.be/rocktron-velocity-300.htm)
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Cheers Guys,
Of all the recommendations here, the only one that seems available for retail is the Rocktron Velocity 300! All the others are only available to import, which I'm loath to do for poss returns/tax purposes! I've heard that the 300 can cut out if it get too warm though? It'd would sit at the bottom of a 6U rack unit, with one space free above for cooling purposes. Enough?
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The Rocktron seems a good choice. One space above for cooling should be fine, how hot it gets will depend on how hard it's working.
You'll need to run 4 ohm cabs to get the full output power (150w per side), 75 w per side into 8 ohms (not shabby and probably plenty loud).
Let us know how it sounds and also how the "reactance" circuit/knob goes.
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The rocktron has a cooling fan so no need to worry.
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I use two different approaches:
- ADA Microtube 200 as part of my ADA head
- Crown XLS1000 as part of my studio rack
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The rocktron has a cooling fan so no need to worry.
So probably no need to leave a space above it then, and room to fit another gadget in >:D
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Best poweramp I've ever had/owned/tried was the VHT 2502. Awesome power amp. Plenty of volume.. and punch, especially when turned loud.
Other good poweramps were:
- Carvin T100. Loud, Great punch.
- Peavey 60/60 (wasnt as loud as a 60watts should be). Great punch and tight sounding
- ADA MicroTube 200. Loud and clean, could use an EQ between the MP-1 and the Poweramp to add some low end and presence.
- Rocktron Velocity 300. Good poweramp. very clean and tight.
Overall honestly, the MP-1 i always found to respond better with a Tube Poweramp. Turning up the Power amp distors the Power Tubes in a way the MP-1 benefits from by adding more "Chug" and tightness.
Cheers
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Having tried both (and I agree the MP1/2 sound great with tube power amps), the B200s is my favourite (like not there, except for volume...), that said, I'm really liking my new(ish) Carvin TS100 all tube 50/50
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I hear great things about the 50/50 Mesa as well...
:metal:
Used both MP-1 and MP-2 through Mesa 2/50, great sound
Also used Mesa 20/20, more mid range and bark, different tone, works well also
Used it through 20watt Riviera head as well, no loops in the amp, but takes pedal in the front end very well.
Just have to know the tone you are looking for and go from there, you want that Marshall tone, then get a Marshall amp, want more heavy and metal sounding (darker sound) then go with a Mesa 2/50 or 2/90.
All depends want you want.
Lots of stuff to carry around if doing a gig all the time, but if you can do it, well worth it....
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What about the Advance TA'70 (or 100)?
Read a lot of good comments on it but never had the possibility to try one
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I've always gone for very clean transparent power amp and let the MP1/2 make the tone. Yes you can add power amp influence, but IMHO you don't need to with ADA. Hey but whatever gets the tone you want. But your then heading back to all in one head territory (albeit mono)
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Does anyone have any experience with Peavey PV 260 power amps? I just got one and know nothing about it yet. Thanks!
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Looks like a nice amp, good features for PA (crossover, low cut, binding posts etc). But 550 w per channel into 8 ohms (1100 w) so be (very) careful you don't blow speakers (apart from that it should be perfect). But as I said this is a PA amp with lots of grunt and lots of potential to send your speaker cones across the room. So don't turn it up past say 10 o'clock. Also if it can handle 16 ohm speakers that will cut the power output a bit ~ 450 w ish ?