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Title: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Ibanez RG on December 01, 2013, 07:17:14 AM
I just bought new Behringer Ultrastack BG 412S 400 watt (maybe Jensen speakers?) for 225 eur and seems very nice sounding to me, very broad and deep soundstage structure; just right for my death metal taste :) I have Randall 412 with Celestion Seventy 80 speakers too.
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Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Dante on December 01, 2013, 08:14:08 AM
I always liked the design of those cabs - the top two speakers panned out about 30 degrees, while the bottom two point straight out. They're heavy as hell too.

I did try one out a little while ago, but resisted buying it. There was no negligible difference between the 4x12 and my two 1x12 cabs, so I kept the smaller of the two.

Nice cab you got there, let us know how you like it
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: kawai2g4b on December 01, 2013, 08:50:41 PM
I run a two cab setup.  One is an Egnater Tourmaster 2X12 kept open back and the other is a vintage Acoustic 466 2/12 slant closed back.  Luckily the setup sounds great because I stumbled into both of them at cheap prices.  Also gives me a nice blend to fill out my sound a bit at both ends of the spectrum. 

I have a Red Star Audio Blackjack 4X12 cabinet that I pair with my rack.  They aren't made any more but this is a very deep and clear cabinet.  I use a lot of deep, throbbing modulation and this cab will not fart out.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Rodney_g on December 02, 2013, 12:03:18 PM
I use the ADA SplitStack 2x12 cabs loaded with WGS speakers. Veteran 30's up top and ET-65s in the bottom. I like the added depth of the cabs... they provide quite a bit more woof than you would normally associate with a 2x12 cab. They look like a full slant top 4x12 cab when placed side by side, but they're a heck of a lot lighter to lug around. I usually space them out so that effects sound bigger. Chorus and reverb sound huge through a stereo rig with the speakers spaced apart.  :metal:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: DaveM on December 30, 2013, 02:37:05 AM
For recording I use an old Genz Benz 112 with a V30.  I still use my old Avatar 212, loaded with Celestion G12H30s, for gigging. 
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: GuitarBuilder on December 30, 2013, 10:12:58 AM
I use a Crown XLS1000 Power Amp with Peavey TL-1 PA Speakers for both my ADA and Rockman heads.  I find that the extended flat frequency response allows for much better tonality and control in the preamps.

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Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on January 01, 2014, 11:14:29 PM
Hey GuitarBuilder, I used to use a Rockman X100 split across 2 Marshalls and a Tom Schultz power soak for my 1972 Marshall 50 (no master vol  :( ), great sound but very compressed, I never got to try the rack versions.

I have 2 speaker setups, 2 ADA split stacks with Boogie 90w Celestians (4 ohm cabs to match ADA B220s).  I picked up a single ADA split stack a while ago and modified it to be either mono (8 ohms) or stereo (2 x 16 ohms) which is convenient (only 1 box to lug).  My Carvin TS100 power amp has 16, 8 and 4 ohm taps so works well with the 16 ohm 70 w Celestians.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: RandallRG on January 15, 2014, 05:14:01 AM
Ibanez hey Dude hows it going? How do you like your Ultrastack? I know they can be bought for some Killer prices (at least from what I have seen on G/Center Etc?) As long as the Speakers work for you & the M-E-T-A-L Dude that's all that matters! (LOL) Either way seems to be a popular Cab. Do they achieve that heavy "Chug/Chug-Thump" Etc for Metal?  :metal: I use Randall gear & love there 80's stuff! I have a Matching 80's RG100ES Full Stack (my own little Tribute for Brother Dime (may he R.I.P.) with (2) 4X12 Jaguar loaded cabs! The RES-80 Jags (made for Randall back in the day by Eminence) sound Killer & produce a Sweet "Chug/Chug" perfect for that Metal Riff! Along with these (through a great Trade) I picked up a Peavey XXL Slant 4x12 it came with the Zebra RG100ES that Randall did for C.C. Deville of Poison...kind of a "Package Deal" If I told you what I got it for you wouldn't believe me anyway so I will just leave it @ that! (LOL!) Sometimes putting forth that little bit of "extra" & searching you can find some great gear! It's out there just waiting for us to find it Dude! Anyway Best of luck to you Buddy! Looks like a very nice Cab. LONG LIVE THE M-E-T-A-L! \m/
**Here's a shot of my Rig**
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Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: jarrodthebobo on January 15, 2014, 05:33:24 AM
Ah use two cabs most of the time at the moment, a Bugera 4x12 slant cab (My first cab, and it actually sounds pretty decent. The speakers inside are supposed to be clones of the Celestion V30s from what Ah was told but, ah honestly have no idea  :facepalm:), but they seem to have a more scooped midrange and extended bass/treble... and then there is a mid 80s Marshall 4x12 1960 slant cab, with Celestion g12-75s. Thing was beat to shit when Ah picked it up at a local music go round, and someone ripped off the grill cloth and replaced it with some ugly ass chicken wire. Ended up painting said chicken wire black and she looks decent now, but sounds great! Very heavy on the midrange and upper frequencies! Have the two running together in mono, as ah don't really don't do anything in stereo.

Pics!:
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Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on January 16, 2014, 02:07:01 AM
Hey Jarrod, try running the MP1 in stereo sometime, the difference is amazing, if your like me, you'll never go back to mono  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: MarshallJMP on January 16, 2014, 05:18:24 AM
Hey Jarrod, try running the MP1 in stereo sometime, the difference is amazing, if your like me, you'll never go back to mono  :thumb-up:

+1 :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: jarrodthebobo on January 16, 2014, 07:09:31 AM
What exactly is the benifit of stereo? Ah am running two cabs together in mono so Ah assumed the effect would be they same as stereo just without the ability to have a wet and dry at teh same time, haha!
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on January 16, 2014, 07:18:39 PM
Going stereo makes a huge difference, apart from stereo effects (chorus, delay, reverb) sounding much much better, it's a big improvement even without the effects element.  Also you can get a nice fattening of the sound by turning the chorus depth to 100 and leave the rate 0.0.  This adds a nice short (chorus length (eg 20 ms)) delay to one channel, sounds awesome (I do this routinely to every patch that doesn't need the ADA chorus).  Try it and see what you think, I'll be very surprised if you are not totally pleased with the result.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: WickerMan on April 05, 2014, 05:25:28 PM
I have an old marshall with greenback ('74 i think). Sound amazing but i don't use it enough. Thinking of selling or putting the speaker in a custom 2x12 solid oak cab that i am building right now (yes pictures will follow when I am done)
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rickeb1 on April 16, 2014, 08:44:25 AM
Great thread!  I am using a Port City OS212.  I'd prefer a nice 4x12, but my back couldn't take moving one around any more.  The OS 212 is a compromise on size and weight with not much compromise on sound, so it's worked out pretty well.  I've gone through a number of different speaker combinations, and what I've landed on (for now ;)) is a Hellatone 60L (version of Celestion V30 with exetnded bass range made specially for Marshall Mode 4 cabs) and a Scumback M75-LHDC (suppose to be similar to Celestion G1265).  Seems essentially what Rodney_g is using, and sounds great!
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Dante on April 16, 2014, 11:07:15 AM
It just occurred to me that I didn't mention what kind of cabs I'm using...NONE! ha ha  :lol:  I run direct these days.

That said, I have been running out of two 1x12 cabs since the early 90s (before that, I had two 4x12s and that was ridiculous). Just within the last couple years, I sold my old 1x12 cabs and picked up some Thiele ported cabs with EV Speakers (EVM12L and an EV Force). Each cab weighs about 50 pounds, the speaker magnet accounting for about 35 of those.

These are incredible cabs. When I bought them, I hooked up a single Thiele cab on one side and a 4x12 Jackson cab w/4 Vintage30s on the other = the Thiele sounded just as big and deep (the ports help a lot). I will never get rid of them, even though I'm not using them right now. I'll attach some pix later
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: El Chiguete on April 16, 2014, 06:22:37 PM
... I sold my old 1x12 cabs and picked up some Thiele ported cabs with EV Speakers (EVM12L and an EV Force). Each cab weighs about 50 pounds, the speaker magnet accounting for about 35 of those.

What are those?
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Dante on April 16, 2014, 08:11:18 PM
I started a thread about them a while back (http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=9.0), with a link to plans for building them

Here's a pic
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Buhz on April 18, 2014, 01:03:19 AM
I have an old marshall with greenback ('74 i think). Sound amazing but i don't use it enough. Thinking of selling or putting the speaker in a custom 2x12 solid oak cab that i am building right now (yes pictures will follow when I am done)
I'm running an MP1 into a ADA B200s on one of my latest rigs. I scored an Egnater 2-12 tweaker cab a while back and haven't had a chance to even plug it up yet. I have 2 marshall 4-12 cabs as well. One is an all original 1967 slant w/ greenbacks in it, the other is a bottom cab from the 80's or so I scored off of CL. I rarely use the 67 due to wanting to save it for recording, as it is sweet w/ just an 80's JCM800 100 watt head. I'm looking for a deal on another 2-12 cab to be able to run stereo. The older cabs w/ the Greenbacks are really cool IMHO. Let me know if you get interested in parting w/ yours.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: finstah on April 18, 2014, 08:18:06 AM
It just occurred to me that I didn't mention what kind of cabs I'm using...NONE! ha ha  :lol:  I run direct these days.

Me too, I run direct into my AxeFX Ultra. For live, I would run that FOH and then have my Bogner Cubes in the back.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on April 18, 2014, 09:50:18 AM
I'm looking for a deal on another 2-12 cab to be able to run stereo. The older cabs w/ the Greenbacks are really cool IMHO. Let me know if you get interested in parting w/ yours.
There's a mob in Australia making greenback replicas, apparently very very close to the original (http://www.melbournemusiccentre.com.au/auxpage_lorantz/)
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: John Mac on April 20, 2014, 04:41:35 PM
I run two of the same bins as Dante (pictures a couple of posts earlier) and 2x12 mid range Fane design (angled left and right by about 15 degrees)  with my MB1 crossed over at around 300Hhz. With a good power plant moves plenty of air, has rich bottom end for 5 string basses and has a really crisp top end.
I currently use generic drivers. The 15 inch are P-Audio 200w about 10 years old  and the 12s are a similar type, also 200w but now around 20 years old.
Amazingly enough the use of a large power amp (behringer 3000epx) with hese speakers is little different to my ears compared to some JBL drivers I had a lend of. I think the key difference is the drivers I have are all better efficiency hence requiring less power to drive them and I use a large amp for headroom not volume.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Buhz on April 27, 2014, 01:01:39 AM
Touched base w/ an old friend last week I hadn't saw in a long time. He was dumping some gear, So I jumped on it.  MP1 (#3 for me)  an Ibanez noise gate, Ibanez EQ and a 4-12 Jackson bottom cab from back in the day, All for $250.  I have yet to plug it all up, Still sitting in my spare room for now. Crazy busy w/ travel and work. I can't wait to fire up the cab and see how it sounds. I did take the grill off the front and touch up some paint and wipe about 20 years worth of dust off the cab itself.  Ran into another old mutual friend and showed him my latest score. Turns out he had the 3 ADA pedal foot switch from back in the day. His MP1 was jacked form a shoop that closed and someone had yanked his ADA Tube amp from his room.  I swapped him an extra Boss Stereo Chorus pedal for all 3 of the ADA foot controllers.   :metal:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Dante on April 27, 2014, 11:45:19 AM
You sir, are a thief ^^

Nice score(s)!  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Buhz on May 06, 2014, 01:51:59 AM
You sir, are a thief ^^

Nice score(s)!  :thumb-up:
INDEED!  :metal:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: RobbHell on May 06, 2014, 08:46:06 AM
I use two VADER Cabinets. Loaded with Eminences. Very brutal.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Duke of Metal on May 19, 2014, 08:52:11 AM
a Splawn 4x12 cab with 4 celestion 75s rewired with Marshall soundrunner 12awg speaker cable. 
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Dante on May 21, 2014, 06:23:13 PM
Okay guys, I was just having some fun with the camera - no, not that kind of fun  :nono:

Here's a pic of both my live rigs (each in a 2u rack) and all my -current- rackmount amps.

One 2u rack has an MP2 w/a Boss GX-700, the other has an MP-1 Classic with another GX-700. The 'amp rack' has an ADA Microfet, an ADA Microtube 200, and my ADA T100s. The Tower of Power on top of my two 1x12 Thiele cabs.

There you have it - a monstrous rig with a footprint barely larger than a milk crate.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on May 22, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
Sooo this is what your audience wants to hear LOL  :thumb-up: or you can give them all ear buds ?
I don't know Dante, IEMs are a good idea, but there's nothing like real volume..IMHO
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Dante on May 22, 2014, 09:49:41 AM
Sooo this is what your audience wants to hear LOL  :thumb-up: or you can give them all ear buds ?
I don't know Dante, IEMs are a good idea, but there's nothing like real volume..IMHO

I usually have the two 2u racks on top of my Boogie combo - there is plenty of volume there  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on May 23, 2014, 08:26:26 AM
Mmm, I like the tower of power  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Buhz on May 24, 2014, 03:24:45 AM
Okay guys, I was just having some fun with the camera - no, not that kind of fun  :nono:

Here's a pic of both my live rigs (each in a 2u rack) and all my -current- rackmount amps.

One 2u rack has an MP2 w/a Boss GX-700, the other has an MP-1 Classic with another GX-700. The 'amp rack' has an ADA Microfet, an ADA Microtube 200, and my ADA T100s. The Tower of Power on top of my two 1x12 Thiele cabs.

There you have it - a monstrous rig with a footprint barely larger than a milk crate.
Cool pics! I'll try to snap some and post here soon!  More is always better!  :homer:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: kawai2g4b on May 24, 2014, 11:26:33 AM
We'll, now that I am about to start gigging again, i have had to develop a small rig based on what I have. Soooo...now I am using two tube works tube driver combos (just the speakers) running in stereo after my amp rack.  Saves me stage space.  On top of that, if my rack fails...instant stereo backup after reconnecting speakers to the tube driver amps.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: gatopanzon on May 29, 2014, 11:57:27 AM
This

(http://i.imgur.com/bvb5jq5.jpg)

150 each from ebay  :banana:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: kawai2g4b on May 29, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
Wow, that looks like a blast, considering GKs guitar pre reputation.  Great score!
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on May 30, 2014, 05:42:01 AM
So is it running stereo sideways or up/down ways ?, looks like lots of fun and a good sound though, but correct me I'm wrong, but wouldn't a 3 or 4 RU rack help LOL
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Darth Infernus on June 01, 2014, 04:24:58 AM
I use Happy Cabs Detuned cabinets. Mine have Eminence Governor speakers
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Hymnofotherspheres on June 30, 2014, 11:37:30 AM
I'm new here with this being my first post . I recently scored my first mp1 , a great steal for 50.00 . I was told it needed a transformer replaced but to my surprise a tube replacement is all that's required as it's been rack mounted for more than two decades in a studio without the tubes being changed . This is my first rack rigg although I've owned several rack mount preamps paired with a number of heads in the past .I'm using a Engl XXL 4/12 stereo cab with an Engl 920 stereo power amp . I also scored a Peavey Rock master preamp ( today) for 150.00 , which the 920  will allow me two A/B switch the two pres . I haven't had a chance to crank it up to live' levels yet as I'm still assembling the setup . The power amp was also a steal for 500.00 and it came with an SBK 6 space rack case . I'm looking forward to a wall of beautiful brutality and power . Pictures to come when I receive the other preamp . :metal:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: kawai2g4b on June 30, 2014, 01:51:53 PM
I have a rock master pre, seriously underrated brutal preamp. Just wait till you crank that thing up.  Currently running it through a Carvin Tube 100, gets a nice glassy texture.  Add to that a great clean channel and you are set.  How is the Engl cab?
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on July 01, 2014, 07:09:32 AM
I'm new here with this being my first post . I recently scored my first mp1 , a great steal for 50.00 . I was told it needed a transformer replaced but to my surprise a tube replacement is all that's required as it's been rack mounted for more than two decades in a studio without the tubes being changed . This is my first rack rigg although I've owned several rack mount preamps paired with a number of heads in the past .I'm using a Engl XXL 4/12 stereo cab with an Engl 920 stereo power amp . I also scored a Peavey Rock master preamp ( today) for 150.00 , which the 920  will allow me two A/B switch the two pres . I haven't had a chance to crank it up to live' levels yet as I'm still assembling the setup . The power amp was also a steal for 500.00 and it came with an SBK 6 space rack case . I'm looking forward to a wall of beautiful brutality and power . Pictures to come when I receive the other preamp . :metal:
Sound like lots of fun :whoohoo!: enjoy....
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on July 01, 2014, 07:10:58 AM
BTW what replacement tubes did you put in ??
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Hymnofotherspheres on July 01, 2014, 10:46:57 AM
I have a rock master pre, seriously underrated brutal preamp. Just wait till you crank that thing up.  Currently running it through a Carvin Tube 100, gets a nice glassy texture.  Add to that a great clean channel and you are set.  How is the Engl cab?
.  The XXL cab is killer as well as heavy , both tonally and physically . Monster weighs about 63 kilos and sounds amazing , crystal clear leads and a thunderous low that's balanced and brutal . I was using it with a Engl Invader 150 for a couple of years .....sonic heaven ! Now I've gone stereo !
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Hymnofotherspheres on July 01, 2014, 10:57:53 AM
BTW what replacement tubes did you put in ??
. I'm in the process of deciding , deffinantly looking for a " modern metal " tone from it  . I was way into Paul Gilberts Racer X tones as a kid but 80's hair metal tone's not what I need .  I have a box around here somewhere with tungsol , JJ and telefunken 12ax7s , if I could only find it ! LOL Any suggestions for tubes ?
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: RandallRG on July 01, 2014, 11:12:45 AM
I'm new here with this being my first post . I recently scored my first mp1 , a great steal for 50.00 . I was told it needed a transformer replaced but to my surprise a tube replacement is all that's required as it's been rack mounted for more than two decades in a studio without the tubes being changed . This is my first rack rigg although I've owned several rack mount preamps paired with a number of heads in the past .I'm using a Engl XXL 4/12 stereo cab with an Engl 920 stereo power amp . I also scored a Peavey Rock master preamp ( today) for 150.00 , which the 920  will allow me two A/B switch the two pres . I haven't had a chance to crank it up to live' levels yet as I'm still assembling the setup . The power amp was also a steal for 500.00 and it came with an SBK 6 space rack case . I'm looking forward to a wall of beautiful brutality and power . Pictures to come when I receive the other preamp . :metal:

Hey Dude sounds like you have been finding some KILLER deals like I have been lately! Looking forward to some pics for sure! Take it easy & LONG LIVE THE M-E-T-A-L!  :metal:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on July 02, 2014, 06:06:07 AM
BTW what replacement tubes did you put in ??
. I'm in the process of deciding , deffinantly looking for a " modern metal " tone from it  . I was way into Paul Gilberts Racer X tones as a kid but 80's hair metal tone's not what I need .  I have a box around here somewhere with tungsol , JJ and telefunken 12ax7s , if I could only find it ! LOL Any suggestions for tubes ?
Any of the ones in your box will work well, as per other post I'd add Mullard short plates to the list (very 3D tube), I use the Mullard long plates in my MP2(s) and they are lovely tubes. The short plates should be a little less microphonic (not that the Mullard long plates have been an issue...)
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: finstah on July 02, 2014, 09:41:36 AM
I've got some Mullard EL-34's brand new in the box I bought from Doug's Tubes years ago that I'll sell ya if you're interested. Also have some old Telefunken EL-34's from my JCM800 days. For me, right now it's the KT-77's biased around 40-41.

Definitely look into a Weber tube biaser. Best investment I made to tweak tubes and experiment.

Sorry for the hijack.  :wave:
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: mike_mp-1 on July 21, 2014, 12:52:53 PM
Few years back needed a small cab to play around with, picked up a vintage Randall 2x12 cab, had white snake skin, looked cool, but dyed it black. Has older 1970-80s vintage Jensens in it, thought will blow these and put new ones in, plugged it in, and great sound and have not blown them yet.

I did add some insulation and got a bigger bottom and little bit tighter bass, great little cab.

Also use a Marshall 4x12 1960AV slash cab, voiced a little bit different, vintage 30s @ 60 watts a piece, sounds slightly different than the 1960A cabs, but identical cabs, with a slash badge.

I usually mic up one of these cabs with either a JCM 900 or older Riviera head and of course blend into front of the house mix.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rabidgerry on September 27, 2014, 04:12:22 AM
I play with these.  Amazing for the cash you pay for them new!!  I got two of the newer ones (on the left) that have specifically designed TurboSound speakers loaded in them for 160watts each cab.  I only got them last week  >:D

Great cabs IMO.  Non Fizzy!!





Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Dante on September 27, 2014, 06:16:37 PM
I miss my old Crate Powerbloc
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rabidgerry on September 28, 2014, 02:52:30 AM
I have 3 powerblocks  :)  I think they are amazing.

I use two sometimes at gigs or else one.  Usually 2 since I turn up to shows and I may not have compatible cabs to run one PB in stereo. 

What is it like running an MP1 into a power block?  Has anyone ever tried?
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on September 30, 2014, 05:18:02 AM
Haven't tried it my self, seems Dante may have, from the pics on google search they should be fine with MP1. Basically any good clean transparent power amp should work well with Mp1/2.  If the power amp adds colour, then it's down to if you like what it adds....
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 30, 2014, 08:39:01 AM
From what i can tell it has a stereo line in on the back so the power block could be used as a power amp for the mp-1.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: Dante on September 30, 2014, 09:34:45 AM
When I had mine, I  was not using rack gear (sorry)
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rabidgerry on October 01, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
Yup the power black has all kinds of inputs on the back.

If I want to bypass the built in speaker sim however I need to plug into the stereo RCA inputs (which I do).

There was me thinking the MP1 was may be best going into tubey sounding rack power amps or solid state power amps that are may be voiced for guitar (like rocktron velocity).  I was considering getting a velocity because of this, however if you guy's think MP1 will suit the power block then hell I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on October 02, 2014, 07:40:49 AM
Hey RGerry, Mp1/2 work best and are designed to run into good clean transparent power amps that don't add any colour of any kind (not that you can't use them that way if you want), you dial up your sound in the MP1/2 and amplify (just add clean transparent volume). I notice a little more warmth with my all tube Carvin TS100 compared to the SS ADA B200s (great amp BTW).  If your power bloc thingies are good solid tranpaent amps that take a preamp line in they should work fine.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rabidgerry on October 02, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
Hey RGerry, Mp1/2 work best and are designed to run into good clean transparent power amps that don't add any colour of any kind (not that you can't use them that way if you want), you dial up your sound in the MP1/2 and amplify (just add clean transparent volume). I notice a little more warmth with my all tube Carvin TS100 compared to the SS ADA B200s (great amp BTW).  If your power bloc thingies are good solid tranpaent amps that take a preamp line in they should work fine.


that's cool rnolan, I'm in luck then :banana-trip:.  The Crate Power Block was designed to be the amp modeller guy's best friend. They were actually marketed at amp modeller users to provide 150 watts of clean power.  Of course there is a crap preamp in them but that was just a little extra.  It has some great features such as built in speaker sim and xlr out.  I just used it for clean power and my old Boss GT pedals sounded best through them.

I was thinking I would retire the powerblocks and buy a new poweramp for the Mp1 because I was under this impression that I'd need an amp geared toward guitar use like Marshall 8008 or Rocktron Velocity or even the Carvin TS100.

What are the ADA power amps like?  I only discovered one the other day by accident, not sure if is the model you mentioned.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rnolan on October 03, 2014, 05:07:49 AM
Hey RGerry, the ADA amps a very good albeit getting a little older.  My favourite is the B200s, SS 124w a side into 4 ohms 2 RU and not super heavey.  I still have one but I need to fix one channel.  In the meantime I need a power amp so I bought a Carvin TS100, I love it, it's a really good amp with MP1/2 (I'm using MP2) and the 50w a side is plently loud, I haven't run it past 3 o'clock. With MP1 and your style you'd probably like the presence knob (6khz boost), I don't use it though.  So highly recommend either of those options, the TS100 is heavy as is all tube, ADA made all tube amp awell, nice amp, MJMP and Dante have them but they are almost twice the weight of the Carvin (which you can buy new).  ADA also did a couple of hybrid amps, tubes controlling the output transistors, there's a MT100 and MT200. Others can comment on them, I had a US MT100 for a bit running off a step down transformer (240v 50hz here in Australia), it had a hum and didn't blow me away (Dante has it now, doesn't hum in the US (as far as I know) swapped him for his old B200s which has a 240 transformer now and going strong (mate of mine has it)). Sorry I digress.
Main consideration: clean and transparent best for MP1/2 let the preamp make the tone and just boost it.
Weight: you want to fly with it, light is better, then switching power supply SS amps are the go (e.g. Carvin DCM 200L (http://www.carvinguitars.com/manuals/DCM200L.pdf) and only 1 RU, but there are others)
Good tube poweramp: Tube = a little bit more warmth (is nice) but quite a bit more weight.  The ADA MT100/200 are 1 RU (and hybrid), most others are at least 2 RU and some 3 or 4 RU, but quite a few out there (Peavey, Boogie, Marshall, ENGL, Mosvalve etc)
But seems to me like your power blocks will work fine, just bypass the preamp section and run it in stereo.
Title: Re: Which cabinets do you use?
Post by: rabidgerry on October 03, 2014, 06:34:29 AM
I tell ya what I will start a new topic in the amps section about this.

Before I do that, the powerblock is the size of a shoe and wieghts lighter than any other amp around.  The size if a SHOE!!!!!!!!!  I take two to gigs with me.  I own 3 of the, though cause I'm greedy.

Ok see you in the amps section  :wave: