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ADA Preamps => Original MP-1 => Topic started by: darralld on January 17, 2014, 05:51:49 AM

Title: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: darralld on January 17, 2014, 05:51:49 AM
Just wondering who's doing it & what type EQ and settings? Was thinking of picking one up and trying it.

Darrall
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: jarrodthebobo on January 17, 2014, 06:37:40 AM
Ah run an eq after my ADA mp-1/BBE sonic Maximizer. Ah typically scoop out about -5db of 500hz and 1khz, cut the sub bass by about -5db, boost 250hz by about 2db, and cut and boost the highs to taste.

You can run an eq in front of an amp however, to push it some more, or get a different response from your guitar/pretty much have any pickup you can buy on tap (not really but, you can get similar sounds of specific pickups if you use the eq right)
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: rnolan on January 17, 2014, 09:21:40 PM
Hi Darrall, I just use the eq in the pre-amp (MP2).  Being a sound engineer, EQ is a hotly debated topic.  I have attached a good article for those interested.  But the main thing is "does it sound good" as EQs vary from crap to good, and while it is partly about cost, its not always (how the EQ circuit is designed is paramount).  The EQ in the ADAs sound good and above all, they are analogue.  Digital EQ is getting better but not there yet and I wouldn't use digital EQ in my sound path as I'd loose the analogue signal to its A/D D/A converters.
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: El Chiguete on January 18, 2014, 11:38:00 AM
For me it depends on what you want to do:

- EQ before the amp meens that you are basicly affecting the tone of the guitar, a good video showing this is this review of the Source Audio Programmable EQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVNfhBBMFfs

- EQ after the amp is... well adding additional EQ to the sound/tone that comes out of the amp.
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: kawai2g4b on January 18, 2014, 03:21:14 PM
I just got this '70s era Peavey 10 band EQ....Its a huge table top unit that I got to pair up with my Peavey Triumph combo.  I ran it after my MP-1 just for kicks and it works marvelously, best of all, it is DEAD quiet...and I would hope so considering the damn thing is bigger than some of my amp heads.  It's too bad that it is a standalone unit.  But then again I got it for the Triumph, and now that amp is all the more versatile for it.
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: El Chiguete on January 18, 2014, 03:30:26 PM
can you post a pic of that Peavey unit?
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: kawai2g4b on January 18, 2014, 03:34:50 PM
Give me a day and I will post it.
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: kawai2g4b on January 19, 2014, 11:59:22 PM
Here is the Peavey EQ:

I don't web host my images so here is the attachment
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: rnolan on January 20, 2014, 11:33:31 PM
Mmm I'm old enough to remember those when they were new.  Should be a nice EQ, Peavy made some good gear back then like the famous MKIII bass heads.
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: kawai2g4b on January 21, 2014, 12:37:49 AM
That it is nice!  My last EQ was a Ross 10 band mains power unit that was too noisy so I am just satisfied to have something that is dead quiet.  Thank goodness I have the vehicle space to haul this around without complicating things.

And yes the Mark III heads are sweet and a bit underrated these days, partially because they really need expansive, efficient speaker setups to sound their best when most people can only lug a small bass combo/cab around, much less fit it on a small stage.  And count my Triumph combo in on the good Peavey category.
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: trader144 on January 22, 2014, 08:15:35 AM
i use a dual behringer rack eq. one before the input and one after the out (sometimes in loop).

everytime i make big changes to the sound with an eq i ask myself....should i just get the right pickup/electronics/guitar?
every time the answer was yes and it made the difference i needed without sacrificing sound to get a notch.

my tradeoffs:

eq is simple and cheap but you loose quality from your pickups
new electronics is expensive and complicated to match but you increase quality

now i know why people have so many guitars...the best ones have a dedicated sound
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: Damn-Danny on February 03, 2020, 01:54:07 AM
Got a Rane  MPE 28 after the 3M Mp1 now
Now I can get lot of different sounds with beter eq.
Mpe 28 is made from design of the ADA MQ.
And boost 3TM in front with a Pro Tone Pedals Gary Holt's  Signature boost .
to create a tight heavy rhytm sound.

Rane Mpe 28 has 28 bands.

Got an Ada mp2 lying around , must be checked etc, in the future
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: StillClimbing on October 03, 2020, 07:00:57 AM
I read where a trick back in the day for a killer tone was to use a parametric EQ in front of an amp. I thought I even read on here somewhere someone was doing that

BTW.... donated!
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: rnolan on October 03, 2020, 10:38:49 PM
I remember someone posted about a parametric in front, there's a few approaches that have worked for various members.  IIRC RG (and others) like to have a bit of a boost up front as well.  Others e.g. Dante run up specific patches for each guitar, which makes sense as the pickups and guitar tones are all different.  I spose using an EQ can help you decide what way you may want to go with a new/different pickup before you shell out for one.Personally, I was always happy with the MP1 without any additional EQing.  And now with my MP2, it has a 9 band graphic as well as the normal B, M, T and P.  Again I don't fiddle with it much.  In the end it's what works for you and your particular setup.  I try to keep my signal path fairly clean and simple,which works for me  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: EQ before and after the MP-1
Post by: Dante on October 06, 2020, 08:32:02 AM
Here is the Peavey EQ:

I don't web host my images so here is the attachment

I had a Triumph 120 combo....stupid loud. Nice amp though, wish I had the 60w version instead