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ADA Preamps => Original MP-1 => Topic started by: VoxG2 on August 09, 2016, 05:57:31 PM

Title: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on August 09, 2016, 05:57:31 PM
        Hello,
    Rebooted MP-1 user here! I had one back in 1990 and I loved it, but traded it later to "simplify" with a Marshall rig. I have just obtained an old MP-1 (the one with the open hole to the switch) and I am really digging what I hear. I also picked up an old Roland GP-8 and the ADA B200S as well. I think, including some trades, I paid around 450.00 total for all of that...which is crazy! Not liking the B200S so far as my pickups don't respond to the SS like they do to a tube amp, so I think I am having a friend build a small, low watt, tube slave amp for the MP-1. Anyway...just wanted to say hello and I'm sure I'll be asking a million questions and hopefully I can be of help to someone too!
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: PrimalScream91 on August 09, 2016, 06:59:41 PM
Welcome back to the A/DA family!

I'm relatively new here myself and I found it quite easy to talk to these guys. Don't worry about asking too many questions either, people here are very knowledgable and we will all try our best to help! :thumb-up:

Cheers!

-PS91
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Dante on August 09, 2016, 08:05:55 PM
VoxG2: Welcome to the asylum, we have cookies  :wave:

If you don't like that B200s, send it to me  :thumb-up:

Dante
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on August 10, 2016, 05:04:39 AM
VoxG2: Welcome to the asylum, we have cookies  :wave:

If you don't like that B200s, send it to me  :thumb-up:

Dante

  Dammit! Dante beat me to it :dunno:

     Welcome to the Forum VoxG2 :wave:
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 10, 2016, 07:32:13 AM
Hey Vox

Welcome to the depot!! But I guess we already know each other correct?
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on August 10, 2016, 04:56:49 PM
LOLOLOL!! Thank you all...and no, I'm not crazy about the B200S. I can't get the chimey cleans like I do with a tube amp.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on August 10, 2016, 06:47:19 PM
Hey VoxG2,

    You probably already tried this, but I have to ask anyway, did you try tweaking your EQ on the preamp? IMHO, as far as solid state power amps go for use with a guitar, I believe the B200S is the best ever made. No other SS power amp has the warmth that one does.

           Harley 8)
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Dante on August 10, 2016, 08:01:46 PM
Hey VoxG2,

    You probably already tried this, but I have to ask anyway, did you try tweaking your EQ on the preamp? IMHO, as far as solid state power amps go for use with a guitar, I believe the B200S is the best ever made. No other SS power amp has the warmth that one does.

           Harley 8)

Shhhhhh!! Don't tell him that   ;D
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 11, 2016, 03:42:55 AM
It seems Dante is the hunt for a B200S  :lol:
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Griphook on August 11, 2016, 05:09:14 AM
... I believe the B200S is the best ever made. No other SS power amp has the warmth that one does.

           Harley 8)

Is it because of this, that the B200S is also the hottest SS Power Amp ever made? :o O:-)
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on August 11, 2016, 06:03:57 AM
... I believe the B200S is the best ever made. No other SS power amp has the warmth that one does.

           Harley 8)

Is it because of this, that the B200S is also the hottest SS Power Amp ever made? :o O:-)

   Only in the sense that it is specific for guitar amplification. You can get a ton of other power amps that are transparent, but that doesn't guarantee a guitar preamp will sound good with it.

     Harley 8)
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on August 19, 2016, 05:24:28 PM
 hahaha...no, I have messed around with the EQ, but still am frustrated my the cleans and the neck dirty. I am going to experiment with an earlier GT Space Station and see how that sounds, but I have a friend that builds amps, and his stuff sounds great, so he is building me a single 6L6/one driver 12ax7 slave amp. I probably would indeed sell the B200S. I paid 125 after shipping from Music Go Round a few months ago.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on August 19, 2016, 05:34:53 PM
Hey Vox

Welcome to the depot!! But I guess we already know each other correct?

   I don't know...should we?
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on August 19, 2016, 05:46:46 PM
It seems Dante is the hunt for a B200S  :lol:

   He's not the only one :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Dante on August 20, 2016, 08:23:34 AM
Yeah, if the timing is right and I find a B200s, I'll nab it.

I like my MT-200 too, I just like having at least TWO of everything in my rig in case something catastrophic occurs. (like a preamp dying, or a power amp only working out of one channel etc.) Right now, my backup amp is my lil' marshall combo.

If I'm gainfully employed by the time VoxG2 decides to sell his....watchout ;)
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on September 12, 2016, 08:59:37 PM
   I'll sell it. I only paid 125.00 after shipping and I ain't looking to profit. Is it appropriate to do this here, or should I eBay/Reverb it?
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Kim on September 13, 2016, 02:52:38 AM
   I'll sell it. I only paid 125.00 after shipping and I ain't looking to profit. Is it appropriate to do this here, or should I eBay/Reverb it?

Feel free to list it in the Buy & Sell ADA Gear (http://adadepot.com/index.php?board=27.0) section.   :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: rnolan on September 13, 2016, 04:23:44 AM
An up side of the B200s is there is room in it for a toroidal power tranny, I still have Dante's old US voltage B200s tranny in a cupboard  :facepalm: .  New 240v toroidal fitted perfectly.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on September 13, 2016, 08:29:13 AM
  I love it with the bridge pickup...it's when I switch to the neck that I get frustrated. Thanks for that info...I'll get some shots and list it.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 13, 2016, 04:00:20 PM
Vox G2,

    What does it do on the neck pickup that is so frustrating, and what kind of pickup is it?
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on September 13, 2016, 04:06:36 PM
  It doesn't respond to the neck pickup like a tube amp. I use Motor City Pickups in most of my guitars, and they're amazing. The neck gets dark and loses the "sparkle" that I get from a tube amp when I play through the B200S.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 13, 2016, 04:21:31 PM
     That's a little odd, since those are great pickups. I would have thought tweaking the Hi's and the Presence in the MP-1 would bring that back, since mine has a very bright response that way.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: rnolan on September 14, 2016, 04:49:25 AM
I'm with Harley here, I've always had good response from the B200s on either PU and plenty of sparkle, maybe something else is going on ?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on September 23, 2016, 06:37:37 PM
   I suppose it could be me!  8)  How should I run the amp? Cranked up with minimal push from preamp or crank preamp and bring B200S up slowly? Thanks.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: rnolan on September 23, 2016, 09:48:17 PM
To make sure there is plenty of level and good signal to noise crank up the MP1 output so the power amp is getting a good strong input signal then adjust its volumes to taste. I used to run my B200s between 12 and 3 O'clock on stage and less (~10 O'clock) in quieter situations.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 24, 2016, 05:48:13 AM
I run my B200S around midway up and level with my preamps. I run some hot programs in my preamps, so I never run the poweramps up full.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Dante on September 24, 2016, 08:06:00 AM
I generally run my Preamp at about halfway (12:00-1:00) and use the Poweramp volumes for different levels. I find that if I crank the preamp too hot (2:00 and beyond), things not only get distorted, but some of the gains get that fizziness that doesn't sound full.

YMMV
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on October 04, 2016, 10:33:17 AM
   Ok...I'm gonna keep this thing and give it a shot! Thanks y'all.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on October 04, 2016, 01:12:45 PM
That's why we're here :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: rnolan on October 05, 2016, 03:55:51 AM
   Ok...I'm gonna keep this thing and give it a shot! Thanks y'all.
I think you'll be glad you kept it, there aren't that many poweramps that work as well for this application.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on November 15, 2016, 03:59:04 AM
   I ran it into a stereo 4x12 and it blew me away. I think I'm going to buy the cabinet! lol
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on November 15, 2016, 05:06:58 AM
   Ok, We see you like to keep us in suspense.

      What kind of 4x12, and what's it loaded with?
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on November 15, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
   lol..true, I didn't mention the cab. It was a 90s Crate Blue Voodoo/30 watt Celestions. I don't think they're the top end 30w from Celestion, but the ones made for Crate. They only want 200 bucks for the cab,though.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 15, 2016, 02:14:16 PM
It seems some came with celestion V30's and some with crate speakers. Have you openend the cab to see what in there?
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: Harley Hexxe on November 15, 2016, 04:33:58 PM
I'd jump on that deal :thumb-up:

    I remember those amps and they sounded pretty good, not great by boutique amp standards, but better than the Marshalls that were out at the time. Those speakers are probably the optional Celestions that you could get at the time. Either way, it would cost you more for just the raw speakers than what they are asking for the cab.

     Harley 8)
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on December 22, 2016, 08:50:42 PM
   I did get the cab and no I haven't opened it up. Wouldn't that be sweet if they were V30s? However, I will say that a 50w 1x12 Celestion Alnico Gold has transformed the ADA sound! It sounds absolutely sweet through that setup.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: rnolan on December 23, 2016, 04:46:23 AM
Hey VoxG2, this sounds like a good (separate) topic to post about with sound clips.
Title: Re: Greetings Everyone!
Post by: VoxG2 on December 23, 2016, 07:26:09 PM
   Yes, I will get some sound clips.