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Non ADA Gear => Guitars => Topic started by: El Chiguete on October 12, 2015, 08:13:27 PM

Title: string balance levels
Post by: El Chiguete on October 12, 2015, 08:13:27 PM
Ok so I know this depends just WAY too much on each brand and size of strings, but is there any chart to show the actuall volume difference in the common different string sizes? I want some help on how to set up the screws on my pickups.
Title: Re: string balance levels
Post by: rabidgerry on October 13, 2015, 02:27:08 AM
Use your ears you mad man :)  and level meter like on a recording device also helps.
Title: Re: string balance levels
Post by: rnolan on October 14, 2015, 05:49:26 AM
Hey El, which screws, the overall PU height screws or the pole piece screws ? or both LoL. As RG says, best use your ears. start flat, neck and bridge PU height adjust so good balance between the 2 (as stings spin more over neck PU and why they are generally less output). The individual pole pieces can be adjusted to balance out the stings (depends lots on fret board radius) (e.g. staggered strat PUs). Changes of gauge will make a difference, more mass = more volume. I use 10 - 46 DR Tight Wounds (on all electrics), same gauge as other strings but a little more mass (tight wound). But whatever your taste in string, it's important to settle on the ones you like, like tubes, they all sound different and it's just one of the many variables you need to nail/decide on. As to a chart re string output, never seen one but who knows there may be such a beast.
Title: Re: string balance levels
Post by: El Chiguete on October 14, 2015, 07:11:52 AM
Im talking about pole piece screws. For sure this is something SOMEONE has thought off showing his results and save the general public time on this lol jeje. Anyway yeha I should use my ears but since I like to think of myself as liking science I like to check numbers and facts to compare things with my ears :)
Title: Re: string balance levels
Post by: rnolan on October 15, 2015, 04:33:33 AM
Well I spose you could try and measure it, no change, introduce new heights and measure again etc. Apart from staggered strat style single coils I've used, which you can't change, I played around a little a long while ago with either the flat head screws or Allen key screws on various humbuckers, these days I wouldn't bother (academically, I understand where your coming from, but after 43 years and earlier forays into this adjustment.. I wouldn't bother, moreover the Ultrasonics I like the most are sealed, nothing to adjust, and I like them just fine...). But if you put a humbucker into a guitar that had very high FB radius e.g. early strat or tele etc (7" circle FB radius) it would make some sense to adjust your pole pieces a bit (if you can) (which is why they did the staggered PUs for the earlier ones).
Title: Re: string balance levels
Post by: vansinn on February 16, 2016, 07:19:11 AM
I [sortof] fail to see the issue, except for the high string, if it's a fairly thin gauge, like 007/8/9, in which case just replace it for a D'Addario NYXL half a gauge fatter.
The NYXL's are more bendable, so half a step can be used, plus they added some cobalt to the high carbon alloy for increased magnetic response.

Oh, and as long I use i.e. 009, 0115, 016, or 0095, 013, 017, as the top three, the remaining ones aren't problematic.
Maybe with the exception of the D-string when using thin tops, where a 022 sounds a Bit snarly and a 024 doesn't bend well - but that's what D'Addario Citar 023's are there for ;)
Title: Re: string balance levels
Post by: rnolan on February 16, 2016, 09:59:53 PM
I read this the other day (http://www.kinman.com/guitar-pickups/magnet-stagger/), this is Kinmans take on it.
Title: Re: string balance levels
Post by: Dante on February 17, 2016, 04:05:03 PM
Interesting diagrams on Kinman.com

thanks  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: string balance levels
Post by: DorsetRatt on February 18, 2016, 10:46:38 AM
Here's some light reading ... how the magnetic fields of a pickup interact.

http://www.moore.org.au/pick/06/06_gobd.htm (http://www.moore.org.au/pick/06/06_gobd.htm)

Or have a look at all of it.

http://www.moore.org.au/pick001.htm (http://www.moore.org.au/pick001.htm)