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ADA Preamps => Original MP-1 => Topic started by: rennerskt on December 15, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
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Hi folks,
I know this is personal but I would like to know if you guys use the MP-1 with any kind of noise reduction.
Most of my patches are distortion tube with overdrive above 7 and I thinking I will have to buy some noise gate.
Best Regards,
Roberto Renner.
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Hey man, not to personal :)
Yeah I use noise reduction with mine. It give noise same as any other distortion device. People go on about MP1 being particularly noisey unit hence the invent of the noise mod, however it just seems like any other distortion unit/device/pedal what ever that I have ever used, and there fore I need noise reduction of sorts.
I am still however, going to do the noise mod. The logic is, if you can make the noise quieter, then you need to use less noise reduction or gate whichever you are using, perhaps both. The less you need to use on you noise reduction unit the better.
I recently bought this. no idea if it is shit or not, I got it quite cheap.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1996_articles/feb96/rocktron.html (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1996_articles/feb96/rocktron.html)
I also have the boss which I really like as well (quite rare this)
http://www.gearjunkies.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=6&products_id=16044&PHPSESSID=ae6fff6bebc395b9b35999b527ee3428 (http://www.gearjunkies.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=6&products_id=16044&PHPSESSID=ae6fff6bebc395b9b35999b527ee3428)
http://www.bossarea.com/other/ns50.asp (http://www.bossarea.com/other/ns50.asp)
I bought these for when I finally piece a rack system together. Currently I use onboard noise reduction on my Boss GT5 with ADA MP1 in the loop. I place the reduction after any/main source of distortion. I don't need much with a sheilded guitar :)
Hope this helps buddy :thumb-up:
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You can´t go wrong with a Rocktron Hush.... I personally prefer the older units, the Hush 2000 in particular. Can be found pretty cheap on the occasion market (eBay,.....).
If you wanna spend some more $$$ the ISP Decimator ProRack-G is one of the top-of-the-shelf units.
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You can´t go wrong with a Rocktron Hush.... I personally prefer the older units, the Hush 2000 in particular. Can be found pretty cheap on the occasion market (eBay,.....).
If you wanna spend some more $$$ the ISP Decimator ProRack-G is one of the top-of-the-shelf units.
Is my rocktron unit an old one? say's 1996 on the link for a review that I posted? Why are the new ones shit?
I had a decimator g-string!!! It was good but not amazing. Sold it though as all the kids are talking about them these days so I got my money back :) I learned how to roll back the gain a little :lol:
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Is my rocktron unit an old one? say's 1996 on the link for a review that I posted? Why are the new ones shit?
I had a decimator g-string!!! It was good but not amazing. Sold it though as all the kids are talking about them these days so I got my money back :) I learned how to roll back the gain a little :lol:
Jaa, that´s a good trusted IICX, can't go wrong with these.
I´m not saying the new ones are shit....I prefer the old ones sound-wise (to my ears).
At the end of the day, once the drummer enters the room you won´t hear a difference :lol:
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Went trough a lot of noise gates (Hush mostly,even a 3630) i still prefer to use the far superior decimator pro G rack.It works very well and shuts down very quick.Another one i always loved and still use in my pedal board is the boss NS-2,too bad it never came out in a rack version.
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Went trough a lot of noise gates (Hush mostly,even a 3630) i still prefer to use the far superior decimator pro G rack.It works very well and shuts down very quick.Another one i always loved and still use in my pedal board is the boss NS-2,too bad it never came out in a rack version.
It did, the Boss NS-50 was/is basically an NS-2 in half rack format. It's better though as it can track the input, bit like a decimator and has some better technology apparently. You don't need one now anyways.
I didn't like the decimator, well I did and I didn't, good for some stuff, but felt unnatural at times.
No matter what you have with noise, I'm a firm believer in, making everything else as quiet as possible before you even get your noise reduction happening. Shield your guitar, use good cable (van damme for example or anything that has low capacitance and a braid shield wire and conductive insulation).
No matter what is the best noise reducer out there, it is still gonna be shit if you have to have it up near max to get what your stuff quiet. None of them are going to eliminate noisey crappy rigs. Well just my thoughts anyway.
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Thanks a lot for the replies.
I think I will go with Hush Ultra.
Best Regards,
Roberto Renner
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The ns-2 also tracks the input.Didn't know about the NS-50,you learn every day!
But you're right,first try to keep the rig as low noise as you can.
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I use the NS-2 to quiet my Dimarzio Super Distortion P/U as well as my CS-3 comp, to keep my rack quiet the Hush II Super C works great in my rig!
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I use the NS-2 to quiet my Dimarzio Super Distortion P/U as well as my CS-3 comp, to keep my rack quiet the Hush II Super C works great in my rig!
SUPER D all the way my man :metal: !!!!!!
I still have yet to crack open my Rocktron IIcx Does anyone know if this is a good Hush or a shit Hush
The ns-2 also tracks the input.Didn't know about the NS-50,you learn every day!
But you're right,first try to keep the rig as low noise as you can.
Ahh I was thinking of the NS-1 which doesn't track.
Yeah NS-50 was half rack. It can fit into a rack using a special fixture. Here is a rack with lots of half rack stuff fitted. This is not quite how I have saw the NS-50 mounted.
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Ahh the NF-1 (you mean the NF-1 right),still have mine, bought back in the 80's.
So did you had the chance to compare the NS-2 and the NS-50,maybe gonna search for one.
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Ahh the NF-1 (you mean the NF-1 right),still have mine, bought back in the 80's.
So did you had the chance to compare the NS-2 and the NS-50,maybe gonna search for one.
hahahah yeah NF-1 sorry :dunno: anyways what the hell is the difference between NS-1 and NS-2?
Ok I thought the NS-50 was a little better than NS-2. Very similar my MJMP. No worse let's put it that way. I got mine literally for hardly anything on ebay this year. Normally they go for around 50US I think. I got mine for $30 The adapter I was on about is a RAD50 adapter.
here is the manual
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CC4QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.rolandus.com%2Fmanuals%2FNS-50_OM.pdf&ei=OEWTVO22BozB7AbNkICgDg&usg=AFQjCNHky1lut7mDJPEVzBdA1kMBU_6cuA (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CC4QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.rolandus.com%2Fmanuals%2FNS-50_OM.pdf&ei=OEWTVO22BozB7AbNkICgDg&usg=AFQjCNHky1lut7mDJPEVzBdA1kMBU_6cuA)
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I must say i never saw an NS-1 only the NS-2?
Well just looked on the bay and found some NS-50's going for around 80 to 90 euro's.
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I must say i never saw an NS-1 only the NS-2?
Well just looked on the bay and found some NS-50's going for around 80 to 90 euro's.
Whats funny is...............................................there is actually no dam NS-1 hahahahahahhahaha
I was thinking of NF-1 all along!!! Why did they call is NS-2 like it was the sequel to the NS-1!! And there isn't an NS-1??? holy shit!!!! :dunno:
NS-50 I LIKE!!
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Question for a SUPER old thread here. I've been using a 2 noisegate system and trying to get the 60 cycle hum down.
Signal chain is: Pedalboard- Roland GP8 - NS50 - MP1 - Hush IICX - B200s
The NS50 comes after the GP8 for a hard gate on the overdrive patch. The Hush IICX comes last before the power section, JUST to bring down the 60 cycle hum, but I'm not sure if that's the right spot for it. When I adjust the levels to get rid of the hum, I lose almost all of my high end, plus the end of my delay tails. Any suggestions? I'm trying to avoid the noise mod as it sounds like a whole thing.
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Hey Chip,
I've been using a pair of dbx 463x Overeasy Noise Gates with my MP-1 for a few decades now, and I've usually put them in the effects loops, just before the poweramp.
I guess it really depends on how noisy each piece of equipment is in your signal chain. For me, the most unwanted noise comes from the preamp itself with higher gain settings. When I use the ADA, Eventide, or Lexicon processors in the effects chain, they are very quiet units so, I can put the noise gates in front of the effects, and set the threshold to just trim the unwanted white noise out of it, and have my delays and reverb at the end of the chain so they are not affected by the noise gate.
You could try to experiment with the placement of your gate in various spots in your signal chain and see which works better for you. As for 60 cycle hum, at lower gain settings, it isn't much of a problem for me. I like more of an overdrive tone rather than a distortion tone, which helps keep the clarity of my guitars intact. When I do use a high gain setting for a blistering lead tone, I always step back to the overdrive tone right after the last note in the solo. That takes all the extra noise away right there and the gate, being already set up for that setting, does it's thing.
Experimentation is the best teacher 8)
I hope that helps
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Hey Chip, depends where the noise is coming from and why. E.g. if you run MP-1 into B200s on it's own is there hum? Try to isolate each unit to work out where/what is causing the hum. I assume you have them all on the same power circuit? so there's no earth loops. While noise gates can be helpful for mains power hum (which you have) that's not their primary purpose, they are more for gating out (hi) gain noise when you stop playing. There are quite a few culprits that can cause mains hum (e.g. earth loops, bad leads, old caps in power supply etc.). The noise mod is a good idea regardless as it fixes the old caps issue in the MP-1 and really isn't that onerous to do or have done. The thing with electrolytic caps (capacitors) from those days is the goo inside them hardens over time (regardless of use) and they all need to be replaced with modern caps. But this will quieten your MP-1, not your pedal board or GP8. Connectors in pedal boards are notorious for causing problems so you need to rule that out