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Direct Recording with MP1

Started by Metropolis, March 09, 2015, 11:47:39 PM

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Metropolis

Anyone have suggestions on direct recording with MP1.   Gain levels  vs output levels.  Also how should I set up my input output levels on my components.  Unity Gain?
Custom Built Ibanez RG (2)
ADA MP1
Rane SP15 5 Band Parametric EQ
Rocktron Intellifex
ADA Microcab II
Tube Works MosValve 962
Custom Built 2x12 Mesa Clone Cab V 30

rnolan

Best way is put a ADA GCS-2/3 cab sim (or similar) in the MP1 loop, this adjusts for the eq difference between MP1/2 patches into guitar cabs (lots more tops coz 12s don't do high freq), and direct (and a bit more, emulates different cab mic choices, angles etc). Check some of the posts re MikeBs MP1 rig with GMaj and ART split mix.
Input/output should always be unity gain unless you want to achieve something different (there are times you may want to, but not often).
Studio Rig: Stuff; Live Rig: More Stuff; Guitars: A few

GuitarBuilder

Like rnolan, I recommend you use your Microcab II between MP-1 and mixer/interface.
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Marshall amps
Strats and Les Pauls

Metropolis

How exactly do I integrate my gear with a small line mixer.  I really would like my final output signal to remain stereo.  Any particular mixer suggestions?   
Custom Built Ibanez RG (2)
ADA MP1
Rane SP15 5 Band Parametric EQ
Rocktron Intellifex
ADA Microcab II
Tube Works MosValve 962
Custom Built 2x12 Mesa Clone Cab V 30

Dante

What they're saying is, use a speaker emulator or a cabinet simulator in order to get the full benefit of an MP-1 running directly into the board.

My MP-2 has cab simulators, as does my MP-1 Classic. I find each one to work well enough for the intended audience (a bunch of drunk people yelling FREEBIRD! or JOURNEY!). Get a good cab simulator and you'll keep it forever.

rnolan

Hey Metro, there's lots of mixer choices depending what you want to be able to do and of course price  :) this one interested me to go in my live rack (http://www.samsontech.com/samson/products/mixers/sm10/sm10/) but would also work well in a small recording setup. It includes 2 mic inputs but only 2 aux sends which you'd use up with one stereo FX unit. I use a Behringer Eurorack UB2442FX-Pro desk for recording (and another for small live PA).  Great desk and not overly expensive. 4 usable aux sends and direct outs on the first 8 channels (very handy for recording), though on board FXs are crap so I don't use them at all.

You have 2 choices with the MCabII (as it has 2 channels (pun not intended LOL)).
1. MP1 A/B out > MCabII ch1/2 in, MCabII out 1/2 > mixer line in ch 1/2 pan hard left/right Mixer out L/R to recording I/O L/R ins
or
2. MP1 loop send > MCabII chan1, MCabII out 1 > MP1 loop return, MP1 A/B out > mixer line in ch 1/2 pan hard left/right Mixer out L/R to recording I/O L/R ins
Both above preserve stereo but I'd proffer 1. is the better option and you could add a mono FX thingy in the loop. I add FX at the mixer (check my rig set up in other posts (e.g. http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=117.0)). Also with the MCabII you can run your normal guitar amp/cab at the same time as it has 2 dry outs.
Mixers are made to be flexible so you have a variety of patching options depending on what you want to do. As they get smaller and cheaper you tend to get less options.

Studio Rig: Stuff; Live Rig: More Stuff; Guitars: A few

MarshallJMP

Has anybody tried out that Two Notes Torpedo Live load Box?Seems to work very well.Saw it in a Friedman amp test.

Sounds really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWtlGvPYex4