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 on: Today at 09:45 AM 
Started by losman26 - Last post by losman26
I bought an mp2 and microtube months ago, and am giving up on the amp because it has failed me the two times I have brought it outside of the house. At this point it is too fragile, and I don't want to spend hours fixing it, only to not trust it. The other night I had the worst equipment failure ever, and the next day ordered the EVH 5150 el-34 50 watt head. This is what I'm gonna roll with. When I have time I will work on fixing the AdA, and just use it at home.

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 on: Today at 01:25 AM 
Started by Hanneman213 - Last post by Hanneman213
Hello Soloist. It's all about carrying my heavy gear to venue. Because The venue is placed on a boulevard which you can not reach with your car. I have an ESP standart V (Randy Rhoads style) with its own specific heavy hard case (I afraid to keep it in a soft pack) A Korg Synthesizer Keyboard, and my 4 unit Rack case includes ADA MP2+Gmajor+Ampulator+ Rocktron Velocity. The main weight is in Rocktrone. So I didn't want to carry it like a cross-fit session. ADA and Gmajor ensures me to press less step on my footswitcher, Clean/crunch/lead all programmed into 3 banks. According to our play list (Queenryche,Iron Maiden, Whitesnake,etc) I have to be quick as possible as when switching between banks and I can't use any other switcher.

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Started by Hanneman213 - Last post by Soloist
I am curious as to why you did your signal chain the way you did. G major into mg's fx return would be using the G major as a preamp,  bypassing the mg's pre. Sure cleans will sound good but nothing with any crunch will. Why not put the g major completely in the mg's loop? Or did I miss something?

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Started by Hanneman213 - Last post by Hanneman213
Our live show is done. Here's the report, Due to my keyboard side duty, I had to take the suitable place on stage where I needed to use Marshall MG 100 Head. and I sent my signal from TC Gmajor to FX Return of MG. The Cleans where beautiful but crunches were totally MG. Personally I disappointed from my direct sound coming after me. The tech guy adjusted it from the PA for internal Speakers of the Bar, My Friends from audience said it was ok.
But Next Time I will carry my Rocktrone Velocity and just plug into 4x12 Marshall cab.

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Started by rnolan - Last post by Chip Roberts
Update, I took the 18i20 back today, and have a PreSonus 1824 coming instead (and it's USB3 and includes StudioOne DAW).  The Focusrite MixControl is such crap, tiny white text on grey background (someone thought it looked cool but you can't read it), not a very intuitive interface (S/W that is, hardware is fine).  After I finally got it working, it didn't sound that great, quite clinical, not very "musical", allegedly Focusrite's higher end gear is better  :dunno:

You have chosen wisely, my friend.  This was my first choice, but my peers were urging me towards the Focusrite.  I currently have Studio One Professional and I love it; the preloaded plugins are really good and you can make the tracks pretty colors.  Trying to install third part VSTs is a grotesque misadventure, though.

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Started by Systematic Chaos - Last post by rabidgerry
Well an ABY pedal is hardly crippling.  What I'm specifically getting away from is the long cable runs I have currently.  Not necessarily floor units.  And sure I'm going to have a larger floor unit anyways using the FCB1010 to control the FX.

But I forgot, I don't need the ABY anyways because I have the send from the preamp.  So that removes the ABY, but I would still have the same issue of pre programmed boosts.  Volume boost for solo.

I don't like making a whole load of patches for specific FX.  I was like that when I was younger but I find it gets ridiculous.  I like to have a few patches, but then I like to have them configurable in real time.  So FX on and off and may be another effect on in it's place, mix up and down, volume up and down.

If I went the patch route I'd need a patch all variables, for Effect on, Effect off, Alternate Effect on and so on and so forth.  Sure I have the memory for the patches but I can't be arsed with that.  I only make patches when I need to.  An example of Effect off and Alternate Effect On,  would be like when I switch a chorus off when I go for a solo and switch the harmonizer on and boost the volume all at the same time.  Then finish the solo and hit the switch again to go back to lower volume and Chorus back on again.

I'm probably being fussy Richard but we all have our ways.  You way seems very complex.

The plan is:

Guitar > Noise Gate In > GSP1101 In >  GSP1101 Send > Preamp > Noise Gate > GSP1101 Return > GSP1101 out > Power Amp

Controlled by midi Pedal

It will take a while to fully get it set up and used to the new unit but in the long run it will be better than have insanely long cables in the FX loop like I have right now.

Edit:  In saying this Richard, I will at some point experiment with the wet/dry/wet setup and I have a 1222behringer mixer to try it out with in the mean time (it's too large to take around with me and also a peavey PV20 which is much to large) .

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Started by Richie_B - Last post by Richie_B
So I went to pickup the mp1 today. We checked it out at the shop and well, no go. Some of the patches weren't working, lights wouldn't turn off and a few other problems. I decided to let it go.

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Started by rnolan - Last post by rnolan
Update, I took the 18i20 back today, and have a PreSonus 1824 coming instead (and it's USB3 and includes StudioOne DAW).  The Focusrite MixControl is such crap, tiny white text on grey background (someone thought it looked cool but you can't read it), not a very intuitive interface (S/W that is, hardware is fine).  After I finally got it working, it didn't sound that great, quite clinical, not very "musical", allegedly Focusrite's higher end gear is better  :dunno:

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Started by Systematic Chaos - Last post by rnolan
Hey RG, a 1RU line mixer with a stereo send is the go but then $s...  The little mixer you have in mind will work but limits your options a bit.Don't know why you want a pedal in front, I thought that's what you wanted to get away from, I know I did, although IIRC you like a bit of boost before your MP1.
I'd go Guitar > MP1 > Mixer >amp for Fx, MP1 send > Fx > Mixer.  Run Fx full wet but change the volumes (delay, reverb etc) within the Fx patch.  So this way the Fx are applied to the MP1 sound and your wet dry mix is done with the mixer vols, so set it with Fx off, then turn them up at the mixer to taste (you need to adjust the mixer levels for your loudest patch so it doesn't overload the channel, then all softer patches will be fine).  Think of it like a PA mix where you add a little delay and reverb to the vocal channel (or any other channel) via you outboard Fx unit(s) which take their input from a Fx send and return back down 2 channels and get mixed in.  If you want different amounts of specific Fx, make a patch in the Fx unit exactly how you want it. And if you want the same MP1 patch but with different Fx, make copies of the MP1 patch, or if you want the same Fx patch on multiple MP1 patches (as is what I do), midi map them either in the MP1 midi map or the Fx midi map. Eg I use the same mild delay and reverb (QV 000) for most of my patches, so I edited the Quadverb midi map to map the desired MP2 patches (110, 111, 112, 113) to be 000 in the QV.

So I run Guitar > MP2 > mixer ch 1 & 2 (panned L/R), Fx send 1 & 2 > Quadverb L/R in, Fx send 3 > IPS33 in (I no longer bother with the distortion loop), Quadverb L/R outs > Mixer ch 3 & 4, IPS33 A/B outs > Mixer chan 5 & 6 (and turn up ch 5 & 6 Fx send 1 & 2 (so IPS33 output is also sent to Quadverb)) Mixer out L/R > amp > cab(s).If I had a 1 RU line mixer with a stereo Fx send, I run it the same except take the MP1/2 loop send to feed the IPS33.

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Started by Systematic Chaos - Last post by rabidgerry
Well I was thinking of something that size because I don't want anything bigger.  Size is still an issue for my live rig.  Not as big an issue, but still an issue.  A mixer that size I could stick in the back of the rack case.

I was thinking more along these lines:

                             />Preamp > Mixer \
guitar > aby pedal /                             > Mixer Output > Poweramp
                            \>MFX unit > Mixer /

So feed guitar to preamp and FX unit separately, set up the FX unit to have full wet signals, then mix into my desired level of FX and Preamp. 

Surely I could do any EQing through the FX unit?  I like this idea but I still think I wouldn't have the same control as I have right now in regards to programming mix changes and volume boosts if I'm relying on the mixer to do that.

Right now on my boss GT5 I hit one switch and I can turn off an effect, turn another one on, and boost the volume all at one.  Sure I can do this via midi with the newer setup plan, but if I'm using the mixer I can't really control the effect mix the same way or volume boosts.

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