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Title: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 12, 2013, 05:04:22 AM
Anyone else use this beast?  I just got one and LOVE it...
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Dante on November 12, 2013, 08:08:24 AM
I do not have one, nor have I heard one...perhaps a kind soul could be persuaded to post something online for everyone to hear? Per chance? hmmmm?    ;)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 12, 2013, 03:23:00 PM
I do not have one, nor have I heard one...perhaps a kind soul could be persuaded to post something online for everyone to hear? Per chance? hmmmm?    ;)

I'll do that in a few... right now, go here:  http://adammclean.bandcamp.com/track/lexicon-jams

It's the ISP Theta with one cab sim up until the key change, and then another... not sure if I like how bright the second one is, but maybe? 

I got the unit mainly for the cab sims as the Rocktron Xpression sounds so digital and a bit harsh to my ears, even though it's the best so far up until I met the Lexicon MPX G2.  I think I like even the bright Lexicon cab sims compared to the Rocktron (see "Demon Test" above the "Lexicon Jams" to hear the Rocktron).  And of course, in addition to the killer cab sims of the Lexicon, the chorus, delays and reverbs and EQ's are INCREDIBLE.  I'll try to do a demo of sorts to show it off...
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Dante on November 12, 2013, 06:49:34 PM
In the mix, I can hardly decipher the difference. I'm sure without all the other instruments, it's more noticeable. Your stuff always impresses me (as does a lot of the stuff I've heard from ADA members  :banana-rock:)

You're right, the second one is bright.

I get the same impression from the chorus and the modulator in my TCE Nova System...it cuts through, but mostly by punching a hi freq hole in the mix. Sounds too tinny for my aged ears.

Killer groove tho...Afro Power Activate  O0
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 13, 2013, 03:40:45 AM
Also got one! I use it in 4(5)-cable-method with my Boogie Triaxis and this setup rawks!  :metal: :metal: :metal:
Sounds best with non-EMG pups though  :nono:  8)  :wave: :banana-dance:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/534051_112530015549767_858416654_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/306_223646241104810_1134409146_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 13, 2013, 10:47:16 AM
I would love a review/demo of it because in youtube you there isn't any good one. How good is it in 4CM with the ADA? Can you route the effects pre and post the loop (pre and post the MP-1 on the loop)?

More info please!!!
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 13, 2013, 03:10:47 PM
Systematic Chaos,

I was thinking of you when I grabbed the Lexicon... I'm running mine direct via the balanced outs.  I LOVE it so far.

Thanks Dante!

I won't have time any time soon to do a proper demo, but El Chiquete, it's worth it... it's a high end Lexicon.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Dante on November 13, 2013, 05:11:42 PM
I must find out more about this Lexicon you speak of :amaze:
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 13, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
In terms of routing the possibilities are almost endless....
If set up with the 4cm with a dedicated preamp in the Insert, you can route any FX pre or post. The FX/preamp chains can also be varied in terms of series/parallel, not only global or per chain but also within each preset chain....
The FX are Lexicon-quality. There´s an analog section that contains OD/TS, Comp, Wah,... especially the Wahs (Vox and Cry-Baby types) are damn good.
There are some reviews on the www, mostly from when it came out in ´99 (!!!)
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar99/articles/lexicon.htm

http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/MPX-G2/LexiconMPX-G2_review.html

http://www.stecrecords.com/?Name=Lexicon%20MPX%20G2

There´s also some PC/MAC edit software:

http://miprosoft.com/mpxg2/

And don´t forget to RTFM!!!!  8)
http://www.lexiconpro.com/en/products/mpx-g2

BTW, works best with the MPX-R1 floorboard.....

Cheers

Magnus
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 15, 2013, 08:10:54 AM
Here´s a take on the Intro Solo from Dream Theater´s "The Count Of Tuscany" that I did with the Boogie Triaxis and MPX-G2 (4cable method).
FX is all MPX-G2, Preamp is Boogie Triaxis, Clean Sound is MPX-G2 "Accoustifier" Patch with a tad bitr more Chorus, Lead is Boogie Lead 2 Yellow (MkIIC+).
Direct from the Boogie Triaxis recording outputs into an ESI DuaFire > Reaper. No post processing/CabSims/.....
@Adam: Pups are passive DiMarzio CrunchLab bridge and LiquiFire neck, guitar is an Ibanez RG2620 QMSP

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87393920/Triaxis%2BMPXG2.mp3
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 15, 2013, 01:50:38 PM
Wow nice sound and even nicer playing !

I own a MPX-1,is there actually a difference in sound (effects only).
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Chucky on November 15, 2013, 07:08:32 PM
Yes! Sounds really good that little clip!

I also own a Lexicon MPX-1 like Marshall JMP.
I think they're the same machines except for the guitar stuff (Sim cabs, distortion patches, etc...)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 16, 2013, 07:43:21 AM
Hey Dante!

Here's a quick little improv... using the ISP Theta Preamp direct into the Lexicon MPX-G2.  No cab sims on the cleans ('cause I'm an Alex Lifeson ala PRESTO/HOLD YOUR FIRE/A SHOW OF HANDS clean kinda guy).  The cleans are using a pitch shift to simulate a chorus (just a few cents or so), a stereo ping/pong delay and a very nice chamber reverb.

The lead channel is the Theta using the Lexicon cab sims with some chorus and delays.  I'm still finding the sounds... I like the lead sound, but to me, it's missing just a hint of sizzle... sounds awesome in the room through monitors, but still finding my way as it gets to the computer.

Enjoy!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wn5hthh5zqxyfsd/Lex.wav
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 16, 2013, 07:52:50 AM
Adam......ADAM!!!!!

...even though it´s EMGs....hell  :whoohoo!: that´s some reeeaaal tasty playing bro!
I LOVE your vibrato!!! Sounds awesome!....and the Theta sound reminds me of a mix of SLO and Bogner! Well done!

And definitely no need for more sizzle...keep it as liquid creamy as it is!!
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 16, 2013, 08:54:47 AM
Thanks man!  That means a lot!

Yeah, the Theta rocks my world... as does this Lexicon!  Ever since I saw pics of your rig on the old forum, I've been thinking about it.  The Theta definitely has that Solando sort of sound to it, but you can kick in Preamp 2 on the Distortion channel and it gets into super heavy Modern sounds (think a saturated Engl).

Dante, if you have any other questions about the Lexicon, let me know!  I'm sure Systmatic Chaos could give you more detailed explanations as it is still new to me, but it's a high end beast!
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 16, 2013, 01:28:21 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wa4l7n9ozt5nk7/Lexicon%20Gallien.wav

So, this is the on board Preamp of the Lexicon with it's own cab sims, chorus/detune, delays... it sounds surprisingly like the lovely old Gallien Krueger units I used to have... the GK 250rl and the 2000cpl... what a fun discovery!!!
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 19, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
In terms of routing the possibilities are almost endless....
If set up with the 4cm with a dedicated preamp in the Insert, you can route any FX pre or post. The FX/preamp chains can also be varied in terms of series/parallel, not only global or per chain but also within each preset chain....
The FX are Lexicon-quality. There´s an analog section that contains OD/TS, Comp, Wah,... especially the Wahs (Vox and Cry-Baby types) are damn good.

WOW I DID NOT KNEW THIS!!! So you can put a MP-1 (or another preamp) in the loop of the G2 and place whatever FXs in front or after?!!!!

Plus the wahs sound good!!!!?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 19, 2013, 03:46:27 PM
For efects only, what do you think of it compared to a Line 6 HD500?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 19, 2013, 03:50:16 PM
There´s also some PC/MAC edit software:

http://miprosoft.com/mpxg2/

I didn't know that someone made an app to control it and make it easyer to work on the settings of the patches!!! This is something that made me pass along one sometime ago!  :facepalm:

So do you control the settings real time when you have it connect it to the G2?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 19, 2013, 10:48:13 PM


1) WOW I DID NOT KNEW THIS!!! So you can put a MP-1 (or another preamp) in the loop of the G2 and place whatever FXs
    in front or after?!!!! Plus the Wahs sound good!!!!?

2) For efects only, what do you think of it compared to a Line 6 HD500?

3) I didn't know that someone made an app to control it and make it easyer to work on the settings of the patches!!! This is
    something that made me pass along one sometime ago! 
    So do you control the settings real time when you have it connect it to the G2?


1) Yes; yes (they sound real good, adjustable Q-Settings, Gain, Highs/Lows, Vox or CryBaby type)
2) The HD still sounds like a Modeller, the Lexicon sounds like a Lexicon (no coloration of the (Pre-)Amp tone)
3) You can control the parameters in real time when connected to your PC/Mac...you can control everything
    parameter-wise in real time as well when set up in your rig with a capable floorboard (MPX-R1, Rocktron All-Access,
    Skrydstryp, RJM, Axxess, Ground Control Pro, FCB1101,...). MIDI and control options are assignable and endless....

  C:-) MPX-G2 Manual (http://adn.harmanpro.com/product_documents/documents/1110_1340213380/MPX_G2_original.pdf)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 21, 2013, 09:33:33 PM
I have one locally for sale (without the R1) for less than $300. Before I decide what to do, can you answer this for me just to make sure:

1) do the effects spillover (delay, reverb, etc) when going from one preset to the other?
2) can I overwrite any preset with my own name and settings or just the 50 user presets?
3) how good are the factory presets as a starting point of the effects in this unit?
4) are you willing to give me tips on how to use it? jejeje  :banana-dance:
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 22, 2013, 03:50:08 AM

I haven't had mine long enough to know if there is a way to do spillover... right now, my unit does not... I'll dive into the manual tonight when I'm done teaching and see what I can find...

There are so many spaces open for your own presets it's nuts... plenty of wiggle room... again, I'll check the manual for details...

Factory presets:  honestly, I haven't used many, because I was too busy fiddling with the cab sims!!!  The "modern" preset is what got me to that Gallien Krueger sound.  And being that it's a Lexicon, you can't go wrong.  The learning curve is a bit steep at first, but a few passes and tweaks and having the manual at your side, it's not any more difficult than any other unit I've encountered.

For less than $300, make sure it's fully functional... if it is, that's a steal in my humble opinion.  It makes my Rocktron Xpression sound harsh and digital.  It is far more warm and (I hate the word) 'organic' than my old Roland GP-100.  It stomps my old Roland DEP-5/DEP-3, the Alesis Quadraverb, other lower end Lexicon units I've had (MPX-110 and 500).  It's far and away the best unit I've used in a long while.  Again, just my two cents...


I have one locally for sale (without the R1) for less than $300. Before I decide what to do, can you answer this for me just to make sure:

1) do the effects spillover (delay, reverb, etc) when going from one preset to the other?
2) can I overwrite any preset with my own name and settings or just the 50 user presets?
3) how good are the factory presets as a starting point of the effects in this unit?
4) are you willing to give me tips on how to use it? jejeje  :banana-dance:
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 23, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
Well I bought the MPX-G2 today  :metal: so it's time for me to go deep in the manual and test this baby!!! So for the guys that have this be ready for PMs with questiong from me  ;)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 23, 2013, 08:21:56 PM
There´s also some PC/MAC edit software:

http://miprosoft.com/mpxg2/

Is there any other computer editor available? what do I need to connect the G2 to my computer?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 24, 2013, 12:15:55 AM
Nope, AFAIK that´s the only real editor... You need a standard MIDI->USB interface/connector like this one (http://www.logilink.eu/showproduct/UA0037.htm?seticlanguage=en)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 24, 2013, 01:19:54 PM

Fantastic!  Keep us posted!  I can't imagine you will be disappointed.

Well I bought the MPX-G2 today  :metal: so it's time for me to go deep in the manual and test this baby!!! So for the guys that have this be ready for PMs with questiong from me  ;)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 24, 2013, 05:10:21 PM
Well after a few hours trying it out today so far so good  :banana-dance:

At first I tried to see if I understand the thing but HELL NO jeje but then I went step by step with the manual and is not hard at all, you just have to think of it as sub-menus on Word, Excel or any other computer program.

It's completly transparent with my MP-1 and the pre and post effects routings rock  :metal: Now it's time to continue reading the manual and trying the different effects.

Nothing like testing new good gear and having christmas early  :banana-upsidedown:
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 24, 2013, 08:43:34 PM
So does anyone been able to set the flanger for early VH (Unchained) sounds? I check the patch that they have for this and they don't use the actual flanger but an effect called Centrifuge...
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 24, 2013, 08:44:15 PM
Also if you guys have general tips from your experiences with this unit please share.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 25, 2013, 07:14:01 AM
I haven't played with the Flange as of yet...

General tips:  none, really, except keep the manual close by and keep experimenting!  I've really fallen for the pitch and detunes being used instead of a chorus... a very full and rich sound.  The cab sims are just incredible for me... doing some recording with them and love how clear and open they are in the mix.

SC, you got anything else to add?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 25, 2013, 07:51:08 AM
I've really fallen for the pitch and detunes being used instead of a chorus... a very full and rich sound.  The cab sims are just incredible for me... doing some recording with them and love how clear and open they are in the mix.

Yeha I'm loving the detunes too! I've never liked the swirling of a normal chorus unless I specificly want a liquid/watery chorus sound. So the detunes will get use a lot!

As far as the cab sims I haven't played around with them because I don't have a good sound card to plug in, but I will someday.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on November 25, 2013, 01:06:12 PM

As far as the cab sims I haven't played around with them because I don't have a good sound card to plug in, but I will someday.

Run it though a keyboard amp, mixing board or a pair of studio monitors!
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 25, 2013, 02:46:48 PM
Run it though a keyboard amp, mixing board or a pair of studio monitors!

Ohh yeha I can do that to test them out... what I ment to say is that I can't record it good to post a video or mp3 file of me playing.  O0
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 26, 2013, 09:12:29 AM
Ok so one quick question, the manual says that the FOOTSWITCH jack on the back is a ¨1/4" Tip/Ring/Sleeve phone
jack for three independent footswitches¨, but what does that meen? what can I use this for?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Dante on November 26, 2013, 11:09:38 AM
I use a Tip-Ring-Sleeve (TRS) cable on my combo amp. The ground is common, the other two (tip and ring) are what send two other signals to the amp. One changes channels, the other one turns the EQ on/off.

Other manufacturers do much the same thing with a channel switch/reverb or FX mute, or whatever your amp is set up for.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 26, 2013, 12:19:54 PM
I'm not talking about the jack for the relay to change channels on an amp, I'm talking of the FootSwitch TSR jack:

The rear panel Foot Switch jack can be connected to as many as three
independent analog switches. Each switch appears as two simultaneous patch
sources.
Tog1: Value toggles between 0 and 127 at each off/on
transition of foot switch 1.
Tog2: Value toggles between 0 and 127 at each off/on
transition of foot switch 2.
Tog3: Value toggles between 0 and 127 at each off/on
transition of foot switch 3.
Sw1: Value is 0 when foot switch 1 is off, 127 when foot
switch 1 is on.
Sw2: Value is 0 when foot switch 2 is off, 127 when foot
switch 2 is on.
Sw3: Value is 0 when foot switch 3 is off, 127 when foot
switch 3 is on.


But I'm not sure what I can do with it.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on November 30, 2013, 09:08:47 AM
1) Yes; yes (they sound real good, adjustable Q-Settings, Gain, Highs/Lows, Vox or CryBaby type)
Can you give me some of your settings?


3) ... MIDI and control options are assignable and endless....
I couldn't find out how to patch an expression pedal to the input to be able to make volume swells like having a normal vol pedal infront of the unit, can you help me out? I just couldn't understand whats the parameter name that should be used in the  Patching section.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on December 02, 2013, 10:15:38 AM
Only complain so far... why the hell can you only store 50 user presets????  :crazy: :dunno:
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on December 03, 2013, 08:35:23 AM
I'm gonna leave this sloppy video right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhXCZ6Yk_w8

My nephews, both awesome musicians doing all sorts of 8 string heavy as hell tunes, were asking about the Charvel/ISP/Lexicon set up, so I threw this together very quickly just to show them... it's an EMG 81 in the bridge, EMG SAV in the neck... everything run direct with cab sims, a light chorus and delay from the Lexicon... it's a bit bright, but actually sits well in a mix...

Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on December 13, 2013, 06:27:41 AM
I haven't had mine long enough to know if there is a way to do spillover... right now, my unit does not... I'll dive into the manual tonight when I'm done teaching and see what I can find...

So have you made de delays spillover yet? I've search for it on the internet and in some forums they mention that you can do it but it's not easy (but then again for many people nothing in this processor is!).
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on December 13, 2013, 06:30:46 AM
I haven't played with the Flange as of yet...

Still can't get this to work for me  :facepalm: how about you?

Hey Systematic Chaos we need your knowladge!
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on January 07, 2014, 09:23:19 AM
McLeanAB I see you are back hanging in the forum, anything new to add?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on January 19, 2014, 01:14:04 PM
Ok so today I'm laying out how to do the preset changes in one song and I can't get the A/B to be toggle from a MIDI CC command from my Vox Tonelab LE that I'm using as a midi foot controller, is there really not a way to do it? If so then the only way to make it work is just with the R1 foot controller???
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on January 19, 2014, 02:31:23 PM
Ok so today I'm laying out how to do the preset changes in one song and I can't get the A/B to be toggle from a MIDI CC command from my Vox Tonelab LE that I'm using as a midi foot controller, is there really not a way to do it? If so then the only way to make it work is just with the R1 foot controller???

I don't know, man... I don't have the foot controller so I can't say... check the manual!!   :banana-dance:
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on January 19, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
You don't have the R1 foot controller or you don't use it with any foot controller? Actually if I had the R1 foot controller I woun't be having this issue because it has a dedicated A/B botton.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on March 31, 2014, 04:43:06 PM
I forgot to mention that I made the A/B change thru a Midi CC Command but still no luck on how to make the delay spillover :(
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: kawai2g4b on July 20, 2014, 12:27:57 AM
So anyway...might be getting one of these via trade, how is the preamp and distortion on the G2?  I have seen mixed reviews on this but I figure the steeper  learning curve might influence opinions on it.  I know the reverbs and delays are good and will probably be worth it so I don't need to be convinced on that front.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on July 20, 2014, 09:02:48 AM
I just use the preamp or distortions on mine one time and I was surprie with the good results... I was thinking on trying on of these days to see how well I can reproduce the MP-1 tone with it.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: McLeanAB on July 21, 2014, 04:52:43 AM
So anyway...might be getting one of these via trade, how is the preamp and distortion on the G2?  I have seen mixed reviews on this but I figure the steeper  learning curve might influence opinions on it.  I know the reverbs and delays are good and will probably be worth it so I don't need to be convinced on that front.

It's not great, but surprisingly okay... I managed to get a great crunch tone out of it (which I never use), and also some Gallien-Kreuger type 2000cpl/250rl tones out of it too!!

As for everything else on the MPX-G2?  Stellar.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: kawai2g4b on August 15, 2014, 10:49:44 PM
Update...I ended up buying the mpx g2 and foot controller for $250!!! Someone is seriously undervaluing this one.  But I played it today and your comments were spot on.  Thanks for the help everyone.  :whoohoo!:
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: rnolan on August 16, 2014, 07:13:23 AM
Coming in very late here but I've never heard a bad lexicon FX, and the Larc 224x  mmmm. Good score  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: kawai2g4b on August 16, 2014, 10:22:26 AM
I'm starting to believe that.  I'm definitely going to happily waste a bunch of time getting this thing dialed in.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 16, 2014, 02:05:42 PM
Update...I ended up buying the mpx g2 and foot controller for $250!!! Someone is seriously undervaluing this one.  But I played it today and your comments were spot on.  Thanks for the help everyone.  :whoohoo!:

That's a really nice deal you did  :thumb-up:
Title: Hooking up MP-1/2/Classic to MPX-G2 via 4-cable method
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 14, 2014, 08:06:08 AM
Chaos how much you find (if any) tone is change by connecting thru 4CM with the MPX-G2? I used to do that but I felt it tooked away the life of my MP1.

EC, after following the MPX-G2 manual (see below) I have not encountered any tone sucking, coloration or alteration at all with the G2 and the Triaxis.
With the quality of gear we´re using, I also don´t like to spend $$$ on the initial gear pieces and then try to save on such trivial things as cables (e.g. Bulk-Pack Colored Patch Cables with telephone thin-like wires in them)
That being said, I also use high-qual patch cables, mostly self-made with Sommer Cable Spirit XXL, Sommer Cable Goblin, Mogami,....and Neutrik or (more often) HiCon ends.
This allows me to also tailor the cable length to the absolute minimum necessary....

Go to page 18 and following of the Lexicon MPX-G2 Manual (http://rdn.harmanpro.com/product_documents/documents/1110_1340213380/MPX_G2_original.pdf)

There´s a very detailed and comprehensive step-by-step description/tutorial on how to set and match the gain levels of the MPX-G2 and the preamp it is being connected with using the 4-cable-method.

This takes some time but it is necessary to fully benefit from all the option the MPX-G2 offers when hooked up this way without compromising or altering the dedicated preamps´ tone.

Furthermore, here´s a LINK (http://miprosoft.com/mpxg2/) to a really useful MPX-G2 Editor SW
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on August 12, 2015, 09:52:17 PM
Thread resurrection time!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chaos check this quick video I just made, in person you can hear more the added hiss... not like over sound of the guitar but deffinetly notice that its present when you turn off any effect before the external preamp (my MP-1) in the PRE-GAIN path.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrAXR7xihjE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrAXR7xihjE)

I thought it was impedance but no and whats going on in the video is that even when you have in this case the Volume effect ON in the Lex the hiss is there and when you turn off that effect the hiss goes out *btw what you still hearing is the normal amp noise from ambient interferance and bad electricity.

Does this happend to you??? I think not.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on August 16, 2015, 02:49:37 AM
Went last night through some hidden sub-settings (using G2 Editor software) together with EC in a intl VidChat/WhatsApp "conference" and sent him a complete dump of my G2 setup and patches...

There's some hidden global EQ'ing deep down in the Sys-Routing that might have been the cause for the strange EQ curves EC posted recently....
Those hidden sub setting include Peak, Shelf and further global eq related settings....
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/MagnusBausW/1C4740B3-1214-4184-B2CB-EB8DC0E71A85_zpskx7ust1n.jpg)

We'll gonna go through it all step by step and set it up like mine (which works and sounds flawless and awesome) l8r today....

The hiss when engaging the PedalVol coul be caused by placing the PedalVol in the FX1 or 2 block...PedalVol should normally (as per the manual) be placed in the EQ block so I guess the block structure/layout is different and tailored to the fx that should go in the respective blocks...

Keep your fingers crossed and may the force be with us :)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on August 16, 2015, 02:57:08 AM
Some more info and links on the G2 and the software I mentioned in my earlier post:

http://www.stecrecords.com/?RecordId=376 (http://www.stecrecords.com/?RecordId=376)

G2 Editor (http://miprosoft.com/mpxg2/)

I did my Sysex dumps with the dump tool referred to on the Stecrecords G2 pages, but any MIDI Sysex dump software like MIDIOX (Win) or Sysex Librarian (Mac) should do the trick....
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on August 16, 2015, 06:43:29 AM
Is there a manual for the editor to find out what all the extra options do?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on August 16, 2015, 07:11:23 AM
Not as far as I know.....
Some Lex G2 enthusiast with a programming background sat down and put it all together...

Maybe check this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lexicon-mpx-g2-editor/t7CTm4n7Xoc (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lexicon-mpx-g2-editor/t7CTm4n7Xoc)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on August 16, 2015, 02:34:51 PM
So today after sleeping and having all the rest that I needed I went to check the stuff out and when I was ready to start testing guess what... the battery went bad and the Lex started to shutdown and turn off!!! So I guess it's time to do a battery mod on both the MP-1 and the G2 since both are solder directly to the board! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on August 16, 2015, 10:39:13 PM
We have a saying in Germany: Der Teufel ist ein Eichhörnchen! (The devil is a squirrel)

When EC told me that all of a sudden the G2 would be going through a continuous start-up cycle I instantly knew it was the battery since I had the same last year....
Luckily we did complete Data Dumps in our efforts during the last two days so it's now just a matter of replacing the soldered CR2032 with a socket and a new battery, upload the saved data sets and go for it....

The batteries in the Lex MPX-G2 are nearing their 20th anniversary so anyone having the unit might wanna consider doing the battery replacement.
For the G2, a vertical CR2032 socket/battery holder is needed....
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: rnolan on August 17, 2015, 12:12:58 AM
Or like with the MP1, you could just pick up a ready to solder CR2032 (has solder legs attached). Using a socket is more elegant but given how long the batteries last it's probably cheaper and easier just to go with the ready to solder in variety.  They are reasonably common as they are used in many computer main boards etc.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on August 17, 2015, 12:36:16 AM
While being at it I deemed it the more "elegant" way (same as MP1 battery mod) to use the socket variant...it's a matter of a few cents more in the end....
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: rnolan on August 17, 2015, 12:50:54 AM
Hey SC, I agree a socket is more elegant. However, MP1 mod is flat socket. When I looked for vertical sockets (for MP2) they were quite thick (so not ideal for MP2 space wise) and harder to source here. While looking in the electronics store for a vertical socket I found the ready to go CR2032s (quite cheep) and no vertical sockets to be found. Then my thought was, if I only need to change this every 20 years.... and I can't source a thin enough vertical socket easily...
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on August 17, 2015, 01:02:14 AM
http://www.reichelt.de/Batteriehalter-fuer-Knopfzellen/KZH-20PCB-V/3/index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=4260&ARTICLE=74687&OFFSET=16&WKID=0&SID=12VdGUNqwQATQAABNKynk6e0d0a9f046116e0327d62f2ce088ee6&LANGUAGE=EN (http://www.reichelt.de/Batteriehalter-fuer-Knopfzellen/KZH-20PCB-V/3/index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=4260&ARTICLE=74687&OFFSET=16&WKID=0&SID=12VdGUNqwQATQAABNKynk6e0d0a9f046116e0327d62f2ce088ee6&LANGUAGE=EN)

no space issues as in the end (including the battery) it's the same size as the battery with solder lugs....
Together with a CR2032 it cost me 0.76€

That store is 5 klicks from where I live  ;D
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: MikeB on August 17, 2015, 02:02:15 AM
Hang on a second!  Let's just back this up. I think everyone is missing the real point here. .. what the hell does "The devil is a squirrel" mean?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on August 17, 2015, 02:42:08 AM
Hang on a second!  Let's just back this up. I think everyone is missing the real point here. .. what the hell does "The devil is a squirrel" mean?
http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=225 (http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=225)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: rnolan on August 18, 2015, 03:47:44 AM
Hey SC they look good, can't get them here  :facepalm: all the ones I found were much thicker. So do the lugs line up with the MP2 PCB ?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: Systematic Chaos on August 18, 2015, 04:01:02 AM
Hey SC they look good, can't get them here  :facepalm: all the ones I found were much thicker. So do the lugs line up with the MP2 PCB ?

Spec sheet and measurements (in mm):
http://cdn-reichelt.de/documents/datenblatt/D600/KZH20PCB-V.pdf (http://cdn-reichelt.de/documents/datenblatt/D600/KZH20PCB-V.pdf)

According to that it's the same spacing as a CR2032 with solder lugs (vertical mount)
http://www.reichelt.de/Button-Cells-Lithium-Solder-Lugs/CR-2032P-V/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=24490&GROUPID=4242&artnr=CR+2032P-V (http://www.reichelt.de/Button-Cells-Lithium-Solder-Lugs/CR-2032P-V/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=24490&GROUPID=4242&artnr=CR+2032P-V)
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 19, 2015, 12:19:05 AM
These are not suited for the MP-2.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: rnolan on August 19, 2015, 05:13:13 AM
Thanks MJMP, why though ? It was hard to see from the pic, I wasn't sure the pins were in the right spot ?

@SC please cancel that request I emailed you.

Cheers R
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 20, 2015, 08:08:30 AM
The pin spacing of the holder is too small.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on August 20, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
Well dont know if we said this before but after doing the preset dump, saving it to the computer and uploading SC presets the internal battery of the Lexicon hit the fan and the unit started powering up and then reseting and doing it all over... so today I purshase online the batteries for bothe the Lex and the MP1. In one week they should be here.
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on September 01, 2015, 07:38:37 PM
I think tomorow will be a busy day!
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: rnolan on September 02, 2015, 06:07:41 AM
Hey El, have fun, it's nice to fix things (well I like it  ;) )
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on September 03, 2015, 05:20:39 AM
Well good and bad news to report...

I changed the battery only on the Lexicon and it was all ok but like an hour later it startet to reboot and turn off just like before :(
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 03, 2015, 10:06:30 AM
Did you mesure the voltage of the battery, is it dead ?
Title: Re: Lexicon MPX G2
Post by: El Chiguete on September 03, 2015, 10:15:12 AM
I will do that latter today.