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Non ADA Gear => Rack Gear => Topic started by: Soloist on April 09, 2016, 10:00:43 PM
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Scored on one of these today for next to nothing! Slapped it in the MP2's loop and it sounds pretty damn good! :whoohoo!: I was looking for a MPX G2 but I couldn't pass this up, looks brand new! My only bitch is the lag time when switching presets. Those Lexicon reverbs are lush as hell :bow:
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Great score, wouldn't mind a G2 myself. Lexicon reverb is my favourite, my first experience was with the Lark 224x in the studio, great reverb.
So is the preset lag in the MPX ? (I'm assuming here you have v1.41 EPROM in the MP2 and have set it to "fast" program change (it is a MP2 setting BTW (in case you haven't tripped over it before))). Maybe there's a firmware upgrade for the MPX to speed up the patch changes ? (as was in MP2 v 1.41). Also does it make any difference if you use the MP2 midi out rather than the through ? just thinking out loud here...
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The MPX1 is known for the *extreme* lag when switching presets...nothing you can do about it.
Best workaround is to *build* one big master preset and then assign various MIDI CC to parameters and map them to switch/alter when switching presets.
The FX-quality in the Lexicon is awesome!
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Just checked Bob Stellon's Lexicon pages; no firmware upgrade since V.1.1, and he no longer stocks it: http://www.stecrecords.com/?RecordId=417 (http://www.stecrecords.com/?RecordId=417)
Don't think he'll do any more upgrades on either of the two devices; had a chat with him last year about possible mods on the G2..
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The MPX1 is known for the *extreme* lag when switching presets...nothing you can do about it.
Best workaround is to *build* one big master preset and then assign various MIDI CC to parameters and map them to switch/alter when switching presets.
That's Exactly what I am doing. 4 main patches, 1 for cleans, crunch, hi-gain and solo's. Seems to be the only work-around. Of all my rack gear this is the only piece with lag when changing presets, not a big deal my ground control pro will handle all the CC mapping.
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I also have one and when you switch there is an option that the sound doesn't go away just the effect,but i can't rember how or what.It's explained in the manual somewhere.
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I think your are talking about the program load. Manual or automatic. In auto mode there is a brief time out while the patch loads. Also the setup load and setup store function can be used to store up to 5 configurations for quicker access.
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No don't think so (it's been a long time since i used it),it had something to do with bypass mode were you could select no sound or just dry sound when switching to another preset.
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I will look into that. Thanks!
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Does a lexicon MPX2 have intelligent harmonizer? Do you know Soloist?
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The MPX-G2 has an intelligent harmonizer
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Does a lexicon MPX2 have intelligent harmonizer? Do you know Soloist?
I don't think there is a MPX2 ,there is a MPX200 and also an MX200?
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Hey Gang,
I believe all the Lexicon gear has a lag in the program switching when it comes to MIDI. I own several Lexicon rack units, and the only way I overcome this lag is to use my Voodoo Labs Ground Control with them.
I assign the Lexicon racks their own MIDI channel, and that does the trick.
Harley 8)
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So how does that solve the lag Harley?
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Maybe the MPX is slow to decipher the sysex stream to work out what's intended for it ? So if you give it it's own channel, all messages on that channel are for it ? just a guess.
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The other problem with that is memory. The reverbs run on a separate chip so you can always run a reverb. The other chip does not allow you to run very many effects on it at once. I can run a great pitch shift but no delay or chorus. Or a great delay but nothing else. So I paired it with my MP2. I run it in the MP2's loop with a 25% mix. I use chorus and other effects from my MP2 and use the MPX1 for the three things the MP2 doesn't have, i.e. Pitch, Delay and Reverb.
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Has this improved in the later units ? I was looking at the MX300 yesterday and it looked like a good thing to buy but I'd want pitch shift and delay as well as reverb.
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So how does that solve the lag Harley?
I'm not sure how it does it, I've just noticed that when I assign the Lexicon gear it's own channel and give it program changes directly, there isn't any lag in the effects switching.
That;s what I like about the Ground Control. It can be set up to control 8 MIDI units on their own individual channels independently. I use the odd numbered channels with my system, to control multiple MIDI units in the same rack. This in itself eliminates the natural 8ms lag that you get in a daisy-chain MIDI setup.
Harley 8)