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Title: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on July 31, 2014, 10:12:41 PM
Here is a something I'm known for; very crappy pictures  :wave:

Here are my two latest choices for gig rigs. Wait ten minutes, it'll change
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: kawai2g4b on July 31, 2014, 11:58:39 PM
I like that rig Dante, simple but seems incredibly effective.  Is the Classic Rig your backup right now or are you using that one outside the Tone Monkeys?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on August 01, 2014, 02:34:07 AM
Go Dante, very cool.  My phone shots aren't great either LOL
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on August 01, 2014, 11:16:41 AM
I like that rig Dante, simple but seems incredibly effective.  Is the Classic Rig your backup right now or are you using that one outside the Tone Monkeys?

Both rigs are for The Tone Monkeys gigs. I've been kinda bouncing back & forth with which rig I bring. The Boogie usually comes to the smaller stages, the stereo rig comes when we play larger venues.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on August 03, 2014, 06:24:33 AM
I used to use 2 ADA Slant Split stacks, but I bough a single Slant SpSk (go figure, they would normally be in pairs ?? but it was cash convertors = pawn shop).  I rewired it to be either stereo (2 x 16 ohm) or mono (8 ohm) depending if you plug 2 speaker leads in or one.  So now I use it for most outings.  Haven't taken the other 2 cabs out for ages, one less box to lug  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chucky on August 12, 2014, 12:05:55 PM
I have potentially many rigs at hand, but have no time and money for the little extras I would need to purchase so that these rigs could be totally independant of one another...
(I always have to borrow some stuff from one rig to the other for them to work as I want them to...)

But my current main rig is put together with simple rules in mind:
-Keeping it as small as can be, yet being powerful.
-Being versatile as hell.
-Able to act as a beer stand/table.

So there it is:
-ADA MP-1 for cleans and bluesy tones.
-ROZON custom made all-tube 3 channel preamp for noiseless grind and juicy soloing.
-TC Electronics G System for effects and managing all switching and loops (Stomp pedals)
-Fender Twin reissue '65: Providing clean and loud power.

I still own 4x12s and keep using them, they're my favorite set-up, but for an all-around do-it-all kit, this is the ticket for me.

Love both of your rigs Dante!!! Cute and dangerous all at once!!!  :banana-rock:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on August 12, 2014, 02:36:16 PM
As you know, I'm all about being cute...and dangerous

I see we have the same taste it flashlights  :thumb-up: :thumb-up: That rig would work just fine, and (bonus) it takes up a pretty small footprint.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 12, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
Chucky,Budweiser,really???i would have expected at least one or two Leffe's on that rack  :lol:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on August 13, 2014, 05:34:56 AM
Cute and dangerous sounds good  >:D :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 13, 2014, 03:06:22 PM
It looks ideal for all sort of stages,big and small.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chucky on August 17, 2014, 08:59:43 AM
Chucky,Budweiser,really???i would have expected at least one or two Leffe's on that rack  :lol:
:facepalm: Yeah I know... But that 's what happens when you play in hicktowns. No Leffe in sight.  :-\
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 17, 2014, 12:51:15 PM
Well bring your own Leffe with you or put it on your backstage list,no leffe no playing  :lol:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on August 19, 2014, 11:39:38 AM
I bring a cooler to every gig - I'm a beer snob

If they are offering Bud, Coors, or any of those derivatives, I'll ask for water
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: kawai2g4b on August 19, 2014, 07:22:28 PM
+1 on beer snobbery.   :whoohoo!:

+2 on a Dechutes Black Butte Porter.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on August 20, 2014, 01:55:23 PM
I bring a cooler to every gig - I'm a beer snob


Then you need this  :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67EovwvJrC0

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on August 21, 2014, 03:59:28 AM
Many years ago the venues gave us free drinks, then it changed to free tap bear and soft drinks, the changed to free soft drinks (and the alcohol limit for drink driving went from .08 to .05).
So in the end I'd take a little flask of Tequila (bit of a heart starter  >:D ) and a 4 or 6 pack of JD and coke in cooler bag and stash it behind my rig.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on August 21, 2014, 11:45:42 AM
I have a friend (i know - hard to believe, but I do) who has an old Marshall cabinet that he has converted into a big cooler with a 2x12 on top. He has speakers in the top two holes, and a new 'floor' beneath them. Then, in the bottom two holes of the cab, there are fake speakers (just pictures in the holes) and a cooler that is accessible from the back. He can haul in and out without anyone knowing :)

Gotta be careful not to bring a beer that the bar does not sell  >:D
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on August 22, 2014, 04:07:24 AM
Yeah they don't like you bringing you own  >:D .  How times change....  :crazy:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: kfowler8 on September 09, 2014, 05:41:10 AM
Just finished assembling my rack last night. I'm pretty set for now. Haven't got a whole lot of time to play with it but I like what I hear so far. Only think left to add is a power conditioner.

ADA MP-1 => TC G Major => BBE 362 => Mosvalve MV-982.

I got pretty good deals on all the gear. The only thing I paid a little more for was the MV-982. I paid about $40 more than what I could have gotten the 2U version for. Having a single space was worth spending a little more. These are pretty hard to find.

The only left I may get is a parabolic EQ. I'll drop the wireless in that case.

(https://nvm0yq.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y2p7wxV9yhROBHFtxLjZuOgZIrGV3loe-JAtDWokFSJW4NMExaFEd-F7Fntiji_z2g2DOzLXcWyH4Ov4520bfMPFNoxjljSKGuo__kcUn2KE8c/WP_002123.jpg?psid=1)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 14, 2014, 04:06:34 AM
I know I know....no ADA in there, but this has been/is my live and go-to rig since 2010....I haven't even altered a patch or changed any values further tone-chasing since almost 3 years. Simply found "my tone".
That being said, the Triaxis is a very early V2 with the TX4 Rectifier Board (Vintage Hi-Gain) WITHOUT the later PHAT or FAT mod.
But I´m more into the Mk tones than the Recto.....

Signal-flow:

Guitar>MPX-G2 in>MPX-G2 Loop Send>TRIAXIS in>TRIAXIS Loop Send>MPX-G2 Loop Return>MPX-G2 Out L/R>Triaxis Loop Return L/R>TRIAXIS Out L/R>2:90 In L/R

(http://www.guitarworld.de/gwpages/images/gear/9654.jpg)

Still got all these gizmos (MP-1 SS MDRT, MP-1 Classic, MP-2)...
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/MagnusBausW/OldRig.jpg)

...as well as these (MP-1 Mod3.1 MDRT, MT100)
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/MagnusBausW/Rig2010.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on September 14, 2014, 09:03:44 AM
Nice to see a few posts in here from you, Magnus. Love your rig - a versatile preamp, and a versatile FX device, plugged into a big ol' amp - simplistic and brutal.  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 14, 2014, 10:12:43 AM
Nice to see a few posts in here from you, Magnus. Love your rig - a versatile preamp, and a versatile FX device, plugged into a big ol' amp - simplistic and brutal.  :thumb-up:

...work related time constraints and lack of connectivity due to geographical location restrictions in the past months....getting back on track now ;-)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: GuitarBuilder on September 14, 2014, 11:58:10 AM
I know I know....no ADA in there, but this has been/is my live and go-to rig since 2010....I haven't even altered a patch or changed any values further tone-chasing since almost 3 years. Simply found "my tone".
That being said, the Triaxis is a very early V2 with the TX4 Rectifier Board (Vintage Hi-Gain) WITHOUT the later PHAT or FAT mod.
But I´m more into the Mk tones than the Recto.....

Signal-flow:

Guitar>MPX-G2 in>MPX-G2 Loop Send>TRIAXIS in>TRIAXIS Loop Send>MPX-G2 Loop Return>MPX-G2 Out L/R>Triaxis Loop Return L/R>TRIAXIS Out L/R>2:90 In L/R

Killer setup!  The MPX-G2/Triaxis combo is very hard to beat.  Glad you found your tone!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on September 18, 2014, 06:22:56 AM
Hey SC, something you may like to think about (experiment with) is I suspect you are chaining through various digital gadgets before you get to your power amp(s).  I've long held the view to keep the signal analogue all the way and mix in digital things (e.g. the first thing a TC does is AD you analogue signal and then DA it at the output).  Now some digital thingys have a "true" analogue pass through (Inteliflex ?) but most do the AD/DA thing.  I've always use a small mixer and run the FX of aux sends and mixed them back into the analogue signal.  My mate MikeB (has my original MP1 rig now) was chaining through his TC Gmaj.  We changed it using the ART split mix to mix in his TC not chain through it (posted to death elsewhere here), quite a significant improvement :thumb-up: , he also runs a GCS3 in his MP1 loop, also works great for DI/recording.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 18, 2014, 10:51:07 AM
The Lexicon MPX-G2 goes in 4cable-method with the Triaxis...most transparent (besides the Eventide Eclipse and the AxeFx) unit I´ve come across so far....makes the TC G-Major (and in parts the G-Force) sound like a Pod 2.0 ;-)
MPX-G2 lets you adjust routing to your tastes....series, parallel, fx-order....

The Digitech GSP1101 also goes in 4cable-method with the MP-1. Also cuz I like to have certain FX (Wah, OD, Comp, Flanger, Phaser) before the Preamp and others after/in the loop. The Xpression is actually not in the GSP1101/ADA chain, it´s hooked to a Fishman Aura for Accoustic and Piezo stuff, in the MIDI chain however...

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 18, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
So you still got alot of ADA gear,nice!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: El Chiguete on September 19, 2014, 04:32:49 PM
The Lexicon MPX-G2 goes in 4cable-method with the Triaxis...most transparent (besides the Eventide Eclipse and the AxeFx) unit I´ve come across so far....makes the TC G-Major (and in parts the G-Force) sound like a Pod 2.0 ;-)
MPX-G2 lets you adjust routing to your tastes....series, parallel, fx-order....

The Digitech GSP1101 also goes in 4cable-method with the MP-1. Also cuz I like to have certain FX (Wah, OD, Comp, Flanger, Phaser) before the Preamp and others after/in the loop. The Xpression is actually not in the GSP1101/ADA chain, it´s hooked to a Fishman Aura for Accoustic and Piezo stuff, in the MIDI chain however...

I really tried today to set the in and outs levels to have everything match but I deffietly hear something added when I put my MPX-G2 in front... after doing all the testing I realice that maybe its just that signal gets buffered and I'm hearing more highs than normal in the tone and is that added ¨clarity¨ I think that is making me not hear the warmth of plugging direct to the MP-1. Does this make any sense??

BTW, how do you set your routing (series, mix, parallel)?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 20, 2014, 01:53:38 AM
Strange....I have no tone sucking or whatsoever.....can you somehow compensate (by altering Treb/Pres)??

My routing is pretty straightforward most of the time...series....
Guitar>MPX-G2{Wah>OD}>Triaxis>MPX-G2{Chorus>Delay>Reverb}>Triaxis>2:90

Within the MPX-G2 the FX chains in my patches are almost identical, basically just turn on/off certain parts of the chain when switching patches or have some different settings in Dly. That goes for the Hi-Gain patches. A couple have the harmonizer in place of the Chorus.
Clean patches are also Wah(R1 Toe Switch)>Comp>Flanger/Phaser>Triaxis>Chorus>Delay>Reverb>Triaxis>2:90

Just a couple are using parallel routing where I have certain of the parallel routed FX being controlled (Mix) with the Rocktron Hex expression pedal

The Hex is normally (almost global) set as a Master Volume.
The Wah from the MPX-G2 I prefer is the Vox type, has (imho) a bit more "substance" and does´t sound quite as "narrow" as the Cry Baby in there....
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: El Chiguete on September 21, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
Chaos after an hour playing around with different settings I think I know whats my issue... but first, do you have any issues with with the ¨SEND¨ of the MPX-G2 that is a line level signal going in the input of your Triaxis that is an instrument level signal?

I think this is my problem because I notice that if I bypass the unit it got a bit of volume drop so I went to Edit/Mix and put the Send level at -8 and I think is level the signal now is ok, so that was probably the extra boost I was having in the signal. I actually figured this out long time ago but forgot about it because I started only to use it for postgain effects.

So should I mod the rear panel to make it Line Level or play with this Send level in the mix?

BTW the send level mix only works when you place something in the pregain section of the MPX-G2 (effect/eq/... or just simply a volume effect block).
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 21, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Will dig into the manual after work today and reply 2night in the MPX-G2 thread in the FX section :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Darth Infernus on September 27, 2014, 01:39:31 AM
Here's my rig...
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 27, 2014, 04:47:07 AM
Nice!!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on September 27, 2014, 06:14:36 PM
Which Intellifex is that?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: El Chiguete on September 28, 2014, 09:55:47 AM
I think is the ¨Online¨version
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 28, 2014, 11:21:29 AM
That's the Intellifex Ltd. (aka Silverface)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: McLeanAB on September 29, 2014, 04:29:15 AM
Same as Systematic Chaos, there only a small amount of ADA in there.... it's the ADA GCS-2 on top of the inside left monitor:


(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh573/McLeanAB/IMG_1056_zpsc0ba20cd.jpg) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/McLeanAB/media/IMG_1056_zpsc0ba20cd.jpg.html)

Signal flow:  Theta Preamp XLR cab sim out to Peavey Mixer.  Theta Preamp line out 1 to Lexicon MPX-G2, stereo XLR outs to Peavey Mixer.  Theta Preamp line out 2 to ADA GCS-2, XLR out to Mixer.  Lexicon MPX-1 in effect loop of Peavey Mixer.  Smaller monitors are connected to the computer.  Larger monitors are connected to the Peavey Mixer.

Then my "live" rig consists of these:


(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh573/McLeanAB/IMG_1062_zpscbb97df5.jpg) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/McLeanAB/media/IMG_1062_zpscbb97df5.jpg.html)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh573/McLeanAB/IMG_1135_zps46d40f80.jpg) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/McLeanAB/media/IMG_1135_zps46d40f80.jpg.html)

ISP Impression in the effect loop of the Theta Combo!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on September 29, 2014, 08:46:37 AM
That's the Intellifex Ltd. (aka Silverface)

How do you guys like those? I found one nearby for pretty cheap, not that I need it, just wanna check it out
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 29, 2014, 09:48:08 AM
The 8-voice Chorus in the "old" Intellifexes is legendary.......
Other than that, solid Rocktron FX / quality and the vaunted HUSH, very transparent units.
Almost studio quality Chorus, Delay and Reverb....that´s what the Intellifex is about. If you´re looking for some more fancy modulation FX the Replifex might suit better, although it lacks (imho) the above mentioned quality.
You cannot alter the FX order/chains but there are a couple of pre-defined algorithms/chains that suit almost everyone.

You cannot go wrong with an Intellifex imho
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on October 07, 2014, 01:01:30 AM
Dante's rig is probably close to what I may end up with.  I have a boss GX700 an I love it.  I love it's distortions as well.

I noticed some frighteningly huge and pro looking rigs on here.  I want to cry  :(

Systematic Chaos, are you a pro musician?  In a touring band? 

So much equipment, made me feel a little amateur  :dunno:


Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on October 07, 2014, 02:55:56 AM
Dante's rig is probably close to what I may end up with.  I have a boss GX700 an I love it.  I love it's distortions as well.

I noticed some frighteningly huge and pro looking rigs on here.  I want to cry  :(

Systematic Chaos, are you a pro musician?  In a touring band? 

So much equipment, made me feel a little amateur  :dunno:

The GX700 should let you run the MP-1 as integrated preamp (4cable method) with the ability to place the COSM modeled stomps (OD/Dist, Flanger, Phaser,....) in front last the FX chains/order can be individually set up. The Roland GP-100 (which is basically just a beefed up GX700) lets you do that....
I set up a friends rig using just an Engl Savage SE, the Engl switcher and the GP-100 and it works like a charm

I´m far from being a pro musician....all the gear is just the result of a couple of years "tone-chasing", which finally took me (back) to the Triaxis/2:90 rig. Boogie Mark-series Hi-Gain is my sound ;-) and I´ve found my grail tone in that setup.
Keeping all the other stuff is simply gear-nerdy lessons learned. In the past whenever I sold something I missed it the instant it was out the door.

My present practice/home rig is totally small, easy and straightforward (see attached pic):
- iPad
- Postive Grid Bias and JamUp Pro XT
- Roland UA-22 Duo Capture EX
- Peak Midi Board 
....Plug'n'Play  8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on October 07, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
The GX700 should let you run the MP-1 as integrated preamp (4cable method) with the ability to place the COSM modeled stomps (OD/Dist, Flanger, Phaser,....) in front last the FX chains/order can be individually set up. The Roland GP-100 (which is basically just a beefed up GX700) lets you do that....
I set up a friends rig using just an Engl Savage SE, the Engl switcher and the GP-100 and it works like a charm

I´m far from being a pro musician....all the gear is just the result of a couple of years "tone-chasing", which finally took me (back) to the Triaxis/2:90 rig. Boogie Mark-series Hi-Gain is my sound ;-) and I´ve found my grail tone in that setup.
Keeping all the other stuff is simply gear-nerdy lessons learned. In the past whenever I sold something I missed it the instant it was out the door.

My present practice/home rig is totally small, easy and straightforward (see attached pic):
- iPad
- Postive Grid Bias and JamUp Pro XT
- Roland UA-22 Duo Capture EX
- Peak Midi Board 
....Plug'n'Play  8)


Jesus why so much gear then?  Do you ever get to use it.  Surely it's 1000's of Euro's worth?


Yeah I'm pretty well versed in the set up of the GT series and GX700 which is basically the Boss Rack version of the GT5.  I have dedicated a lot of time to those units and I own two of each from GT5 to GT8.

I have been integrating the MP1 with the GT5 at the mo and using it's cab sim and basic effects.  I think it sounds pretty good.

If I can end up with MP1 GX700 and a power amp I'd be happy.  I need something easy enough to get on planes/boats for gigs abroad.  That is why Crate Powerblock amps are awesome, their size is genius.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 07, 2014, 08:06:32 AM
Have you tried the creates with the MP1 yet ?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on October 07, 2014, 10:02:42 AM

Jesus why so much gear then?  Do you ever get to use it.  Surely it's 1000's of Euro's worth?
....

I keep the stuff I like and sell the stuff I don´t like ;-) Sound-/Tone-wise I like the Boogie Triaxis/2:90 combo with the MPX-G2 the most (at the moment).
But since I´m only at home at the weekends the iPad-rig comes in handy for practicing or an ad-hoc gig
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on October 08, 2014, 01:00:40 AM
Have you tried the creates with the MP1 yet ?

Yeah I tried on Saturday past.  I think I mentioned the results elsewhere, um in the tubes discussion post I think  :???:

I felt it was fine.  I had to adjust the presence as it was a little fizzy.  I ran MP1 into the FX loop of my Boss GT6.  It sounded ok but nowhere near the amount of gain I needed.  It sounded Marshall esque to me.  That day I think I had the EHX in the first slot and a JJ in the second slot. I was getting more 70's heavy metal tones.

I have ended up with the chinese tubes back in there again as they were with out a doubt better sounding (and feeling).  I little more gain although I definitley am going to go for a higher gain mod at some point, which one I choose I haven't decided upon. Could be 3TM or MOD4 MKII or SS MOD.

 
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 08, 2014, 05:07:27 AM
Have you tried MP1 > Create, GT6 in MP1 loop ? use GT6 just for effects.  IIRC you said GT6 is digital so you like GT5 as is analogue, so use GT5 instead again just for effects
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on October 08, 2014, 06:02:13 AM
Yeah so far what I have done is this:

Guitar > GT6 IN > GT6 SEND > MP1 IN > MP1 OUT > GT6 RETURN > GT6 OUT > Crate IN (BYPASSING PREAMP)

If I do this:

Guitar > MP1 > mp1 loop GT5 > MP1 OUT > Crate

This way however I will not be able to use wha or compressor unless I put them after the MP1 which would be rubbish since those effects should go before preamp.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 08, 2014, 06:59:20 AM
Hey RGerry, a suggestion (or 3 lol), please try:
MP1 > Create (line ins no create preamp!!) > cabs. apart from no FX (except possible MP1 chorus) this should sound great as a basic kick arse guitar sound (tweak the sounds a bit until you're happy). Just get you basics done !
Then bring in FX possibly in different parts of the chain (one at a time (even if they are in the same gadget), get it sorted and build from there, I'd start with reverb, next add a bit of delay (short mild for rhythm, lead what the solo requires)).  The best IMHO and easiest way to bring all this stuff together is with a small mixer that has lots of Aux sends and run it like a PA (see http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=117.msg391#msg391) for my set up.
You seem to be using the MP1 as an FX device (like a distortion pedal), I'd go the other way around, let it make the guitar sing (dial up the sounds you want) and add in some FX from the boss stuff, the tube head room compared to a GT anything will blow you away so make it (MP1) the focus  :thumb-up:
Cheers R
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on October 08, 2014, 08:24:36 AM
Hey RGerry, a suggestion (or 3 lol), please try:
MP1 > Create (line ins no create preamp!!) > cabs. apart from no FX (except possible MP1 chorus) this should sound great as a basic kick arse guitar sound (tweak the sounds a bit until you're happy). Just get you basics done !
Then bring in FX possibly in different parts of the chain (one at a time (even if they are in the same gadget), get it sorted and build from there, I'd start with reverb, next add a bit of delay (short mild for rhythm, lead what the solo requires)).  The best IMHO and easiest way to bring all this stuff together is with a small mixer that has lots of Aux sends and run it like a PA (see http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=117.msg391#msg391) for my set up.
You seem to be using the MP1 as an FX device (like a distortion pedal), I'd go the other way around, let it make the guitar sing (dial up the sounds you want) and add in some FX from the boss stuff, the tube head room compared to a GT anything will blow you away so make it (MP1) the focus  :thumb-up:
Cheers R

Hey RN,

I've been using the MP1 as my main distortion or as my pre amp.  Sticking it in the FX loop of those other FX units is the right way to hook them up because then I can assign it (mp1) anywhere in my chain as the loop is moveable.  I have only been using it with dry(ish) patches with eq and then the odd one with chorus.

I will give what you say a go but I honestly don't think I could use it any other way without sacrificing any pre - pre amp effects like compressor and wha.  Only way around that is to buy seperate pedals for in front of the mp1 which I'm not going to do as I am not expanding no way  :nono:

I can't really place the Crate anywhere else other than at the end of the chain, I always bypass the preamp on it and speaker sim.

Things I cannot do without, EQ, Harmonizer, Chorus, Reverb (sometimes delay).

Reverbs are always subtle with me purely for ambience.

At home the set up is:

Guitar > gt5 > loop (mp1) > Recording unit > Head phones
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on October 08, 2014, 08:49:28 AM
Friend of mine runs a GT6 with either a Triaxis or an Engl SE Pre, and there´s no loss in gain....
So, let´s go through the hook-up chain step by step:
- Guitar to GT6 Input
- GT6 Send (Insert) to MP1 Input
- MP1 Loop Send to GT6 Loop Return
- GT6 Output to MP1 Loop Return
- MP1 Output to Poweramp
(substitute GT6 for GX700 or GT5)

To match all the (input) gain levels, there´s some steps as well.
First, you have to set the MP-1 OD1 (T2) Trimpot to work at its optimum setting (for your needs). So here´s how:
(all taken from the MP-1 Stock Gain Mod (http://adadepot.com/mods/ADA_MP-1_Stock_Gain_Mod_Doc.pdf) instructions; Step10)
Step 10: Tweaking the OD1 Trimpot
Here is how to set the input stage gain-trim:
1) Plug your MP-1 back into your rack, make sure you have ample access to the top of the unit.
2) Locate the OD1 Trimpot
3) Dial-up your favorite high-gain patch.
4) Grab your main axe, plug it in, and switch to your bridge pickup.
5) Set the OD1 Level Control to 5.0 or 6.0 (or 7.0 depending on your pickups). You will have to play around with this setting until you are happy with how the other channels sound, especially the Clean- Tube channel. I wouldn’t let this setting get above 8.0, it may get too muddy or noisy.
6) While you are doing palm mutes and/or heavy open chords (“Pull Me Under” is a good riff to test with BTW), have your little brother turn the trimpot dial with a little miniature screwdriver until the OD1 Clipping LED lights up frequently on downstrokes, but doesn't stay lit all the time.

Now when you´ve done that, you have to set the Boss Unit´s Send/Insert Level to match the MP1 input. I know that there´s a tiny knob on the back of the GX700 for that purpose. The GT6 should have something similar (or some way to "define" if the loop send/insert is line or instrument level).
Once you´ve found that knob/switch/setting, turn that knob/parameter to achieve the same results as you did with the T2 Trimpot as described above.

That should get you in the right direction  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 09, 2014, 04:37:28 AM
Ok that answers the question from another post, T2 is about gain in the V1 stage, without getting more complicated, the trim posts are about making sure the right amount of signal/gain is present it the V1 on (or V2) circuit, Too little means not as good gain and additional noise, to much means too much, and starts to clip other components in the circuit.
What I suggested is a bit of a paradigm shift in how you run your rig, (but this is all so subjective) personally I wouldn't use a boss/Rolland anything, they sound boxy and muddy and their tuners are crap (if you want to be in tune, get a peterson strobo clip, even a Korg works better than the boss/rolland stuff, they have such a big/wide dead zone). Even the rolland keyboards suck (boxy/muddy to my ears, and don't get me started with their 3rd octave eq units, blah...). But then I also don't like Boogie amps, they are well made etc I just don't like that middy sound so again subjective.
For FX, get a Quadverb or Itelliflex, or TC or Lexicon (mmm), they are all so much better than the boss/rolland stuff and bring it all together with a small mixer, and keep the signal path from MP1 to poweramp analogue, mix in the digital FXs.  But not to turn you world upside down.  If you have to use a boss/rolland thing, mix it in don't chain through it, your sound will be vastly improved (as will your head room).
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on October 21, 2014, 09:06:07 AM
Update on my Backpack and Plan-B rig:
Found a used iPad2 for 80€ which is now exclusively in use for BIAS and JamUp Pro XT.
Also replaced the small Peak Midi-Footctrl with a Digitech Control Seven (25€ on German eBay  :banana:)
Tadaaaaa:
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/MagnusBausW/IMG_1113_zps3d234682.jpg)

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 22, 2014, 05:20:15 AM
Go SC, very cool (and compact lol)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DaveM on October 22, 2014, 10:06:18 AM
My current studio/stage rig.....

Not much ADA gear present, aside from a dusty old MP-2 and a MIDI footswitch.  The Egnater is my primary gigging amp, and has a great Marshall vibe.  The Mark-IV hasn't left the house in ages, and is now only a studio resource.

The pedalboard consists of two separate systems.  The M13 is wired via 4CM with only the Egnater.  The rest of the pedalboard is used with the Mark-IV, also via 4CM.  The Pedal Pad powered pedalboard has its own effects loop module, so hooking everything up is quite easy.  The Fulltone FD-2 MOSFET is used to boost channel 2 of the Mesa. 

I still haven't purchased a proper studio desk, but the third picture is my current setup.  Though it was an impulse purchase, I absolutely LOVE the Mackie MCU-PRO controller.  I would buy it again in a second.....
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 23, 2014, 05:10:00 AM
 :whoohoo!: Nice  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on October 23, 2014, 06:21:03 AM
Nice setup! :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DaveM on October 23, 2014, 07:09:36 AM
It's taken me 10 years to get to this point. 

I was never really a Mesa fan until I saw Petrucci on the 2007(?) G3 tour.  Hearing him blaze through "Jaws of Life" was, tonewise, life-changing for me.  My Mark-IVa was manufactured in 1990, so the caps are likely gonna start acting up on me pretty soon. 

I bought this one on Ebay without ever having played a Mark-IV in person.....and never regretted it.

The Egnater TOL is, mmmm, "okay" but NOTHING compared to the MESA in terms of tone and versatility.  I DO like the parallel effects loop and boost function, but the reverb is THE absolute worst I've ever heard....completely useless at any setting. 

I've attached a picture showing how close I actually mike the V30 with the SM57, 1" away from the seam of the dust cap.  Funny how one's taste in "tone" changes over time, isn't it? 
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on October 23, 2014, 08:41:57 AM
...until I saw Petrucci on the 2007(?) G3 tour.  Hearing him blaze through "Jaws of Life" was, tonewise, life-changing for me.  ...

I can totally relate to that.
My first encounter with Mesa amps was in the mid/late 90s when everybody went Rectifier...got a Dual Rec and a Triaxis back then and could´t get anything out of it.

When I saw and heard Petrucci on the Chaos in Motion Tour, especially the epic outro solos to "The Ministry of Lost Souls" and "Octavarium (The Razors Edge)" (http://youtu.be/fFfeQgRcaEE), I was totally blown away and sold to THAT sound.

It´s that combination of the Mark Tone Stack which is in between the preamp gain stages (so all freq bands interact with the gain/distortion) and the Simul-Class power section that makes up for that iconic Mk sound ....
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DaveM on October 23, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
....and Petrucci was fiddling with his rig during his entire set, but I CAN relate to his obsession with tone. 

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 24, 2014, 03:10:08 AM
Hey DaveM, well that 57 is very close, lots of proximity effect (i.e. bass boost) (I've attached a picture showing how close I actually mike the V30 with the SM57, 1" away from the seam of the dust cap.) that's very close BTW, I've not seen that before, also you'll loose all the bottom end from the outside of the cone ?? So it becomes a mixture of the highs (in cone centre) and 3db bass proximity effect (bass boost) in SM57/58 (basically like loudness button on stereo).
(Funny how one's taste in "tone" changes over time, isn't it?), absolutely, I find myself wanting to turn down the distortion, may end up like AC/DC lol. And from lots of patches, I'm now down to 3... After 40+ years.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DaveM on October 24, 2014, 03:42:50 AM
I learned the extremely-close miking from Keith Merrow.  I currently mike two cabinets in total, and quadruple-track the rhythms.  One is as pictured above, and the other is an Avatar 212 miked about 6" away, and further out towards the cone's edge. 

As with most things "tonally-related", I can only attest to what works for me personally.  I'm sure different amps/guitars would achieve different results.

I used this miking technique to create a "wall of guitar" for a track I recently recorded, called "Black Winter"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAmZHXgL9M0
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 24, 2014, 04:04:19 AM
Hey DaveM, cool I like it  :thumb-up: , just played it through my Truths/truth sub, my taste - I'd add some presence (6khz) to guitar and some 10,15 18 khz (sparkle) to the girly background voice (sounds muddy (like roland things lol) and doesn't quiet fit the accuracy of the other instruments. But that's through my system.
Cheers R
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DaveM on October 24, 2014, 04:11:41 AM
the voice sample was from an old VST called "Distorted Reality".  I intentionally left it sounding very grainy, so that it would sound like an old scratchy sample.

I had a stroke a couple of years ago, and have battled a terrible case of tinnitus ever since, so I'm always very cautious with adding any extra high end...as I tend to overdo it. 
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 24, 2014, 04:32:48 AM
Hey DaveM, I understand, I always turn my solos down to low lol, better someone else makes the choice.
From my ears: Overall the track worked well (although I felt like playing some lead guitar over the moody keyboard bits  >:D ), drums keyboards and bass were quite articulate, guitar was good but IMHO needed a bit more bight  >:D (hence 6khz presence suggestion), I get what you wanted to do with the grainy back ground sample, adding some high end sparkle will make it fit the mix better as (from the you tube clip (not the best audio lol)) the other sounds (kit, key, bass) sound good.  Quad tracking the guitar has also added some comb filtering (in places they go in and out and stereo image moves, sorry I'm being pedantic, apart from other things, I'm also an audio engineer..). Depending on your gear (recording/mixing stuff), you can time align the tracks (again pedantic, it sounds great  :thumb-up: BTW)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: finstah on October 24, 2014, 08:10:06 AM
couple clearer pix of my rig.  :wave:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on October 25, 2014, 01:04:27 AM
Hey finstah, very cool collection  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DaveM on October 26, 2014, 08:44:07 AM
very nice rig Finstah....
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: big jim on October 29, 2014, 05:57:53 AM
Hi.

Here is my rig.

Marshall JCM 900 Hi gain Master Volume MKIII 1990 with Marshall Cab Celestion G 12-65 December 1979.
Mesa Boogie Quad, ADA MP1, ADA2fx, Rocktron Hush Super C, Rocktron Patchmate, Korh Tuner.
Mesa Boogie Abacus midi controller.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/9PxF7a.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/id9PxF7aj)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/32/evuh.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/0wevuhj)

++
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on October 29, 2014, 07:18:23 AM
Nice setup!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DaveM on October 29, 2014, 09:25:36 AM
Oh that Mesa QUAD is sooooooo nice, i would love to have one.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 02, 2014, 02:41:16 AM
Hey Big Jim, very nice, do you run your rack through the Marshall ?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: big jim on November 06, 2014, 02:37:38 AM
Hey Big Jim, very nice, do you run your rack through the Marshall ?

Yes I send the rack in the return of the Marshall.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 06, 2014, 02:52:57 AM
If you get a chance run it stereo  :thumb-up: (2 x Marshalls or stereo power amp/cabs), stereo brings these preamp alive  :whoohoo!:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 10, 2014, 11:31:06 PM
The final evolution of my fun/bedroom/small club/rehearsing/recording rig:
- Ibanez LU 20 Tuner (True Bypass)
- Digitech Control Seven Midi Floorboard
- Roland UA-22 Duo Capture EX Audio Interface
- iPad 2 32GB 3G/WiFi running Positive Grid Bias / JamUp Pro
- Pedaltrain Junior
- Harley Benton Powerplant
For Club gigs a simple active monitor wedge is more than sufficient. For bigger stuff I can use one of the Roland´s outs to the PA and one to an active monitor wedge for monitoring
Sounds boss!
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/MagnusBausW/JamUpRig_zpse5c9a6b4.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 11, 2014, 04:47:26 AM
Go SC, very cool (but no tubes  :facepalm: ) LOL
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 11, 2014, 09:48:40 AM
That seems a small but nice setup but i would never dare use this live.Looks a bit fragil.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: finstah on November 11, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Hey SC,

what are these apps about?

Positive Grid Bias / JamUp Pro
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 11, 2014, 12:20:49 PM
'Stah bro!

Amp modeling for/on iOS devices....check out www.positivegrid.com or some vids on YouTube.
You'll be surprised on how good these apps sound

Bias amp creation and JamUp Pro integration:
http://youtu.be/Z_NOquxLc_8 (http://youtu.be/Z_NOquxLc_8)

Creating an amp (80s Marshall Hi-Gain) with Bias:
http://youtu.be/urSN9eSSgbQ (http://youtu.be/urSN9eSSgbQ)

Live:
http://youtu.be/cdT4kGGTBeg (http://youtu.be/cdT4kGGTBeg)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 12, 2014, 03:39:52 AM
That seems a small but nice setup but i would never dare use this live.Looks a bit fragil.
One of the biggest down sides I've noticed in modelling is the lack of dynamic range compared to tubes, which becomes more apparent when you pay louder (e.g. with real mmmm drums). So in the bedroom (which is what SC uses it for, almost perfect). Hey I played through a $500 AUD Line 6 the other day tuning my mates daughters  (very crap, took 20 mins and is still shit) very cheap strat like thingy, volume was low, he set the blues/rock sound (bit of delay/rev built in  :thumb-up: ). It was fine for lead coz I could bend all the notes into tune, chords...that guitar needs work (and if you bend the top E of the board, it gets stuck under the frets that poke out). Anyway, in that context, the line 6 was decent.
Loud and Live I want my ADA MP2 rig, and with the 3D Mullard long plates  >:D :whoohoo!:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 12, 2014, 05:38:17 AM
It's pure practicability/portability... I'm presently "berthed" in BOQ Monday-Friday 400 klicks from home. Wife and daughter need the big car so I'm only "entitled" to the Z3....
But digital modeling has come a long way and these apps are way more dynamic than I thought in the first place.
Totally sufficient for a club jam session....
No need to tell though that my Triaxis/2:90 and 2 4x12 are a "different" thing >:D
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 13, 2014, 05:12:38 AM
Absolutely, which is why I use one ADA split stack wired to run in stereo/or mono rather than 2 split stacks (which I have), it's easier/less to move... but still sounds fine, But I did enjoy the Line6 for a bit LOL, the guitar was crap.... (even with lots of work it will still be shit), but then I played her baby Taylor (which I'd set up for her (she's 7 ?) with some Dr Thomastic lights (10-42, thinnest wound g ever @ 0.016 ?) (a decent 3/4 acoustic with a solid top)), good way to bring a very young player along, best for me she played it really well, good feel, timing etc.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: finstah on November 14, 2014, 01:04:45 PM
'Stah bro!

Amp modeling for/on iOS devices....check out www.positivegrid.com or some vids on YouTube.
You'll be surprised on how good these apps sound

Bias amp creation and JamUp Pro integration:
http://youtu.be/Z_NOquxLc_8 (http://youtu.be/Z_NOquxLc_8)

Creating an amp (80s Marshall Hi-Gain) with Bias:
http://youtu.be/urSN9eSSgbQ (http://youtu.be/urSN9eSSgbQ)

Live:
http://youtu.be/cdT4kGGTBeg (http://youtu.be/cdT4kGGTBeg)

sweet dude will check em out.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on November 15, 2014, 08:05:32 PM
I love seeing all these rig pix!

DaveM is a mad scientist ;) and I am envious of Systematic Chaos' minimalistic rig with the iPad. I have an app and a few stompbox models in my iPod, now I wanna hook up a cheap bluetooth footswitch (is there such a thing?)

Here's a pic of my footswitches...all I use for a 4-hour gig of cover tunes: ADA MXC w/Quad switch and CC pedal. I use the wah in my FX to keep down the cords - I just run the midi cable. The pedals look a bit better now, as I gave them a fresh coating of Sharpee and duct tape ;)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 15, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
Well this is one the most colorfull footswitch i ever seen :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 16, 2014, 03:40:15 AM
I love seeing all these rig pix!

DaveM is a mad scientist ;) and I am envious of Systematic Chaos' minimalistic rig with the iPad. I have an app and a few stompbox models in my iPod, now I wanna hook up a cheap bluetooth footswitch (is there such a thing?)

iRig BlueBoard (http://www.amazon.com/IK-Multimedia-Blueboard-wireless-controller/dp/B00BIPL9JW)  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 16, 2014, 04:07:26 AM
Nice Dante, did you paint it on or are they overlays of some kind ?, but then you are a graphic artist IIRC.
They look great BTW
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on November 16, 2014, 08:16:43 AM
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Well this is one the most colorfull footswitch i ever seen
It's color coded :) White = Clean, Blue = Big Delay, Yellow = Gain/Crunch, Red = Solo

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Nice Dante, did you paint it on or are they overlays of some kind ?
Richard: 5-6 rolls of colored duct tape, an Exacto knife and some pens (black sharpee, silver sharpee)

FYI: I also use the silver sharpee to draw bigger dots on the edge of my fretboard on my Gibson & my Epiphone (they have tiny white dots on the rosewood fingerboard edge, which is impossible to see in low-light on a stage). The sharpee rubs off in a few days. All my other guitars have a bound neck = white binding with larger black dots = easier to see.

Quote
iRig BlueBoard  :thumb-up:
Awesome...and it's cheap!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 17, 2014, 02:51:12 AM
Ah Dante, the master of the Exacto knife LOL. I know what you mean about the dots, on my Anderson they've softened over time (on the fretboard as well) and are harder to see. I've had many an interesting chat with the lighting guys over the years, like can you allays keep enough light on the guitar so I can see where TF I'm at! After 44 years playing I shouldn't need to see/look (and probably don't), but now I think about it, for some reason, my last cross check when changing positions is to make sure visually before going fully committed into the chord/note (I've hit a few clangers in my time  :facepalm: ). Then if I pick up the SG (last fret where neck joins body), everything goes 3 frets to the left from what I'm used to and I need to see...
I've seen some guitar builders (and I assume manufactures e.g. Gibson) are putting in LEDs. Great idea, not sure what you do if one blows, or if they're the same colour as the lights (red dots, red front/back wash). And when I play out doors daytime I have to make a little cardboard house over my MXC pedal display so I can see it...
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on November 17, 2014, 04:19:42 PM
I had a bass player who had one of these (https://fretfx.com/) - they were pretty awesome (when I feel like dropping $80 for one, I will)

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 18, 2014, 02:59:02 AM
Wow, disco lighting on your guitar lol, you can spend the $80 or train the lighting guy (harder I know).
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 18, 2014, 12:03:32 PM
Wow, disco lighting on your guitar lol, you can spend the $80 or train the lighting guy (harder I know).

Hahaha  :lol:  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: finstah on November 21, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
I love seeing all these rig pix!

DaveM is a mad scientist ;) and I am envious of Systematic Chaos' minimalistic rig with the iPad. I have an app and a few stompbox models in my iPod, now I wanna hook up a cheap bluetooth footswitch (is there such a thing?)

Here's a pic of my footswitches...all I use for a 4-hour gig of cover tunes: ADA MXC w/Quad switch and CC pedal. I use the wah in my FX to keep down the cords - I just run the midi cable. The pedals look a bit better now, as I gave them a fresh coating of Sharpee and duct tape ;)

Love the big #'s. Even my old ass can read them on stage. lol
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 23, 2014, 08:14:32 PM
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/neo_zpsd3d21d19.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/neo_zpsd3d21d19.jpg.html)\(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/setup_zps2a91ae78.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/setup_zps2a91ae78.jpg.html)

here is my rig

guitar ->  tube screamer - > MXR 10 band eq - > Boss NS 2 ---> ADA MP1 -> Digitech DSP 21 pro -> ART 31 band eq -> Fostex 3180 analog reverb -> return to ADA MP1


Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 24, 2014, 03:57:14 AM
Awesome Chamai  :thumb-up: very nice.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 25, 2014, 01:05:15 AM
Awesome Chamai  :thumb-up: very nice.

thank you!
really wanna get rid of that tube screamer, but i need more gain!!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 25, 2014, 02:25:41 AM
Hey Chamai, Check your PM, I have some ideas
Cheers R
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 25, 2014, 04:42:36 AM
Awesome Chamai  :thumb-up: very nice.

thank you!
really wanna get rid of that tube screamer, but i need more gain!!

How 'bout you mod one of the MP-1s to Super-Stock (SS....more gain mod) (http://adadepot.com/mods/ADA_MP-1_Stock_Gain_Mod_Doc.pdf)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 25, 2014, 05:19:40 AM
Absolutely, it's one way to go
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 25, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
I suck with this kinda stuff so for sure I cant mod myself.

I actually turn the gain all the way to 0. so I use it like as a clean boost. I just need that extra tight sound.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 26, 2014, 02:55:50 PM
Is that your drumset?Seems to be a pearl?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 26, 2014, 07:12:44 PM
Awesome Chamai  :thumb-up: very nice.

thank you!
really wanna get rid of that tube screamer, but i need more gain!!

How 'bout you mod one of the MP-1s to Super-Stock (SS....more gain mod) (http://adadepot.com/mods/ADA_MP-1_Stock_Gain_Mod_Doc.pdf)

i will look into it. im gonna see if my buddy could help me with this.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 26, 2014, 07:16:04 PM
Awesome Chamai  :thumb-up: very nice.

thank you!
really wanna get rid of that tube screamer, but i need more gain!!

yes sir, thats my drum set. it's a pearl masters mmx
How 'bout you mod one of the MP-1s to Super-Stock (SS....more gain mod) (http://adadepot.com/mods/ADA_MP-1_Stock_Gain_Mod_Doc.pdf)

i will look into it. im gonna see if my buddy could help me with this.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on November 27, 2014, 01:45:42 AM
Some nice BIG and small rigs have been posted since I've been away!  Nice!!!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 27, 2014, 08:42:27 AM
Is that your drumset?Seems to be a pearl?

yes sir,its a pearl masters mmx
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Zsoli on November 27, 2014, 12:47:03 PM
Awesome Chamai  :thumb-up: very nice.

thank you!
really wanna get rid of that tube screamer, but i need more gain!!

How 'bout you mod one of the MP-1s to Super-Stock (SS....more gain mod) (http://adadepot.com/mods/ADA_MP-1_Stock_Gain_Mod_Doc.pdf)

Stock Gain Mod + Noise Mod v2.0 = SUPEEER! :)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 27, 2014, 12:47:22 PM
Nice set,maple shells ?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 27, 2014, 09:26:51 PM
Nice set,maple shells ?

yeap, 4ply maple. you a drummer as well?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 28, 2014, 03:21:45 AM
yeap, 4ply maple. you a drummer as well?
I'm pretty sure MJMP can count past 4 so he's not a drummer LOL (how come roadies can only count to 2 (one sstwo) coz if they could count to 4 they'd be drummers), to balance, how many guitarists does it take to change a light bulb, one and 100 who could do it better than that....
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 28, 2014, 12:45:13 PM
Nice set,maple shells ?

yeap, 4ply maple. you a drummer as well?

Nope i'm not,although i wish i was.But my son is a drummer/marimba player.He has a Tama Starclassic maple 6 ply (BD 8ply).
He's a Portnoy fanatic as you can see  ;D 
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 28, 2014, 09:59:54 PM
Hey MJMP, nice  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 30, 2014, 02:45:55 AM
Hey MJMP, nice  :thumb-up:

sweet kit, must be a lot of fun setting up mics for that drum set.  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 30, 2014, 05:43:56 AM
Interesting point Chamai, I notice MJMP  has the kick mikes inside the drum, so lots of proximity effect but no time for the wavelength to develop properly and appart from standing waves inside the drum, less outer skin influence. I'd go a 57 inside aimed at edge, (proximity effect and 5khz cut) and a RE20 back off the drum a foot or so, more aimed at the middle (times 2 of course  >:D )
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 30, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
Interesting point Chamai, I notice MJMP  has the kick mikes inside the drum, so lots of proximity effect but no time for the wavelength to develop properly and appart from standing waves inside the drum, less outer skin influence. I'd go a 57 inside aimed at edge, (proximity effect and 5khz cut) and a RE20 back off the drum a foot or so, more aimed at the middle (times 2 of course  >:D )

Mixing up the kick drums this way gives it more of a click sound rather than a bass tone. For high speed double bass this gives the bass more clarity when going high speeds.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on December 01, 2014, 02:13:40 AM
And why I'd do the 2 x 57s inside aimed at the edge (5khz boost pick up the click) but then 2 x EVRE20 off the drum a bit to pick up the bottom end.
Drummer I used to play with managed to get double kick speed from one drum, awesome footwork. Go Wes LOL
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on December 01, 2014, 09:52:59 AM
I always stick my kick drum mic inside the drum, by about 4 inches.  I get lots of "doof doof" frequency below 100hz using a large diaphragm kick mic.  I use a cheapish one (everyone frown!!!!  >:( )  but I'm telling you it f**king works and I think it's a great quality mic.  I aim right at the pedals, I also get the drummer to take the outer (resonant)head off, so much easier than going through a little whole and I've seen it done 100000 times even on toms as well (with their resonant heads removed).

If I went too close I'd get rubbish with the proximity effect rnolan is talking about.  I also make sure I have the dampening material inside the drum laying somewhat on the inside of the batter head.

Anyways that's just me.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on December 01, 2014, 02:12:46 PM
Interesting point Chamai, I notice MJMP  has the kick mikes inside the drum, so lots of proximity effect but no time for the wavelength to develop properly and appart from standing waves inside the drum, less outer skin influence. I'd go a 57 inside aimed at edge, (proximity effect and 5khz cut) and a RE20 back off the drum a foot or so, more aimed at the middle (times 2 of course  >:D )

Mixing up the kick drums this way gives it more of a click sound rather than a bass tone. For high speed double bass this gives the bass more clarity when going high speeds.

Yep that's why i do it this way,mics inside pointed to the beater..But you still get some good bass too.BTW the whole kit is miked except for the octobans.I use Audix mics,best mic's for drums IMO.Got 2 D6's for the bassdrums,2 D4's for the floortoms and 4 D2's for the toms and 2 I5's for the snare (top and bottem).Mics are mounted directly on the toms,the mounts are supplied with the mics if you buy the DP-7 ad DP-5 kits.For overheads and HH i use the ADX51 condenser mics from audix.
Those I5's are also good for guitar cabs.I usually mix a I5 and a SM57.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on December 01, 2014, 02:26:11 PM
I heard those Audix's where good.  Not the most expensive either.  I use the Samson Q kick.  It's cheap and I have not read a bad review about it, and I have saw plenty of people put it up against the Audix D6.  I use Samson Q toms on the toms (obviously), they have nearly the same response as an SM57.  Guess what MJMP, they are good for guitar micing also  ;)

Question (although we really off the point of this thread)

My drummer has stuck another tom on his kit, it is going towards the snare and hi hat direction to his left.  Pretty much means I cannot mic the snare now which I'm pissed off about.  Anyone any suggestions on how to fit it in?  How I like to mic the snare is using a mini boom, I have it pointed across the batter head and a little way inside the rim (thinkin about pulling it back however), I do not point at the skin (I used to but not now).

How the hell can I squeeze the mini boom in with the drummer and all his f__king stands for his cymbal and now this dame new tom!!!!!!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on December 01, 2014, 02:38:26 PM
I only use mic stands for the overheads and the HH.For the rest i use these

http://www.thomann.de/be/audix_dvice_rimklemme_drumclip.htm for the floortoms and snare and these
http://www.thomann.de/be/audix_dflex_rimklemme.htm for the toms due to the starcast mounting system i can't use the other ones.Easy to put on and off and no mess with all those mic stands.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on December 01, 2014, 08:54:52 PM
don't know much about micing. its a complete different game when you mic up huge drum sets. gotta worry about bleeding through and stuff. for kick drums, i like triggers. i always bring an e kit for gigs since most sound guys don't know wtf they are doing. at least i have some control on eq and volume.

sub forum for drummers!!!!!!!!!! :banana-dance:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on December 02, 2014, 02:11:39 AM
I only use mic stands for the overheads and the HH.For the rest i use these

http://www.thomann.de/be/audix_dvice_rimklemme_drumclip.htm for the floortoms and snare and these
http://www.thomann.de/be/audix_dflex_rimklemme.htm for the toms due to the starcast mounting system i can't use the other ones.Easy to put on and off and no mess with all those mic stands.

I use a stand for the snare and kick, I don't mic the hi hat as I get enough in the over heads.

I don't use clips on the snare because of the subsonic crap you get.  I also find I can't adjust it properly as a clip is much to limiting.

Drummers have to be the most annoying people in bands.  They are so unhelpful.

MJMP, can I attach a regular mic clip to that audix vice?  I might try one and see what I think.  I see they do a clamp version also.  Failing that I might just have to mic the snare in a way that points at the rest of the drums unfortunatley.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on December 02, 2014, 04:11:05 AM
Go guys a good drum miking discussion  :thumb-up: There's no one way that's perfect, but here are some basic approaches and some principles to keep in mind.
First the drums need to be tuned well (very hit and miss in my experience LOL). If you run 2 heads/skins top and bottom, then there are a variety of tunings to suit (e.g. bottom head 5th below top etc.), and do you even bother to tune the kit to what pitch you are playing in ? (some say you should) and for each song ? and tune your delays and reverb times to the songs speed (which may change, and does). How pedantic do you go ? Hey up to you..
Here's a good simple kit miking IMHO, good pair of overheads, kick ((RE20/M88) about 12" away pointed a little off center). 57 on the snare angled to pick up some hats (hats, the most important drum that's not  drum as such). If the kit sounds good this will work well  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on December 02, 2014, 06:47:35 AM
I close mic everything for the simple reason that I am limited to one room  and I can't change the room and I will be until some day when I am a milliaire I can buy a studio custom built  :lol:

I don't think I could rely on 2 or 3 mic approach, although didn't Bonham get recorded by two mics rnolan?  At least at one stage I think he was.

I would try this if I had a nice drum room, but I don't so I wont and I will just fake the ambience.

This discussion could perhaps continue on a recording drum thread :)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on December 03, 2014, 04:00:14 AM
Hey RG new topic started  :thumb-up: (http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=802.0)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Satch on January 19, 2015, 06:45:13 AM
1st Rig
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Satch on January 19, 2015, 06:45:58 AM
2nd Rig
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on January 20, 2015, 04:30:55 AM
Hey Satch, Nice  :thumb-up: :whoohoo!:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: kawai2g4b on January 25, 2015, 02:05:47 AM
Nice Satch, I just stumbled upon a Classic 50/50 myself and it is glorious with an MP-1.

Okay so I know there is no ADA in my current main rig:

Lexicon MPX G2>Soho Acoustics QTR-1 preamp>Carvin T100.

(Richard, this setup finally solved my doom metal/thrash/funk/jazzy combination dilemma from a while back; lexicon has maybe the best OD that I have ever heard)

The ADA rig:

Ibanez AD202>ADA TFX4 (finally found the pedal!!!)>MP1>Digitizer (in loop)>Mosvalve.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on January 25, 2015, 04:44:49 AM
Very nice, and glad you got it solved  :thumb-up: , interesting the pictures are upside down, maybe coz I'm in Australia  :dunno: LOL.
Had to save them to rotate, but cooking with gas my friend  :whoohoo!:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: kawai2g4b on January 25, 2015, 02:54:44 PM
Wow, that's what j get from uploading them from my phone. Thanks Richard!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 25, 2015, 11:55:37 PM
got some serious GAS going on, just wanna share these with you all

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/orange1987x_zps8vs6cua7.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/orange1987x_zps8vs6cua7.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/groupshot_zpsojw0xucv.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/groupshot_zpsojw0xucv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 26, 2015, 12:41:47 AM
Hey Dante, very serious GAS my friend  :thumb-up: The Marshall head looks like my 1972 50w, although yours looks very pristine (is it a reissue ?), mine god many years of dings after a gazillion gigs I did with it LOL. BTW who owns the left handed Tele ?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 26, 2015, 01:21:38 AM
Hey Dante, very serious GAS my friend  :thumb-up: The Marshall head looks like my 1972 50w, although yours looks very pristine (is it a reissue ?), mine god many years of dings after a gazillion gigs I did with it LOL. BTW who owns the left handed Tele ?

that would be my personal lefty heh. the right handed epiphone is actually my son's. the 1987x is a 90's reissue without the effects loop. im actually trying out the amp for a few before i buy it. to be honest, it doesn't really work for me. i need more gain. i guess old school marshalls don't work for me. im prob better off with a used 800 or a splawn. i really don't want to slap a distortion pedal in the front because it changes the tone too much. i tried boosting it with my tubescreamer but its still quite weak. any ideas besides modding it?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 26, 2015, 02:07:40 AM
Hey Chamai (sorry thought the post was Dante doh  :facepalm: and last I looked he's not a lefty LOL)

I chucked some new input tubes in my '72 a while ago (Boogie STRs, had spare after the Mullards for my MP2). It was my main amp for years. Total let down after ADA MP1/2 (and had a hum  :facepalm: ). Back in the day I had a tubescreamer thingy with a 12AX7 tube in it, I wasn't that impressed, the amp had lots of gain but no master vol so I used a power soak so I could crank it (and still be in the same room LOL). So the screamer just made it more distorted and I wanted a volume boost for solos not so much more distortion.
Unless you really want a Marshall, I'd stick with the ADA. You could have it modded but I'm not convinced it would ever sound as good as an ADA rig (but I'm a total MP1 now MP2 convert  :whoohoo!: ). I used to love the Marshall but haven't used it in many years as my MP1 (back then) gave me 128 of them at different volumes so I never looked back. MJMP modded a couple of his Marshalls so one of the input jacks is straight to the power amp stage, so he just likes the tube poweramp output to go with his preamps.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 26, 2015, 02:29:01 AM
Hey Chamai (sorry thought the post was Dante doh  :facepalm: and last I looked he's not a lefty LOL)

I chucked some new input tubes in my '72 a while ago (Boogie STRs, had spare after the Mullards for my MP2). It was my main amp for years. Total let down after ADA MP1/2 (and had a hum  :facepalm: ). Back in the day I had a tubescreamer thingy with a 12AX7 tube in it, I wasn't that impressed, the amp had lots of gain but no master vol so I used a power soak so I could crank it (and still be in the same room LOL). So the screamer just made it more distorted and I wanted a volume boost for solos not so much more distortion.
Unless you really want a Marshall, I'd stick with the ADA. You could have it modded but I'm not convinced it would ever sound as good as an ADA rig (but I'm a total MP1 now MP2 convert  :whoohoo!: ). I used to love the Marshall but haven't used it in many years as my MP1 (back then) gave me 128 of them at different volumes so I never looked back. MJMP modded a couple of his Marshalls so one of the input jacks is straight to the power amp stage, so he just likes the tube poweramp output to go with his preamps.

not many lefties around this board my guess. got the orange cab brand new for 40% off and a pretty good deal on the mesa cab. can't resist!!! :banana-trip:

for old 80's hair metal, nth could replace the ada. i do find palm muting/ rhythm lacking a bit. the ada is just not as sensitive in that department compared to a tube amp. lead tones on the ada is amazing though.

i plan on getting an A/B switch to switch between my marshall and my mp1. i kick in my jcm 900 for rhythm and switch to the mp1 for my solos. im curious to see how that would sound with the band. i know it kind of defeats the purpose of the mp1.

as for the 1987x, i take my mp1 over it anyday. going to return the amp to the store tomorrow. im actually happy that i didn't like it, saved myself some money.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 26, 2015, 05:42:38 AM
What tubes/patches are you using ? Personally, I've never had an issue with palm muting with MP1/2 (so want to understand better). With '72 Marshall (cranked, they squeal like a banche and you need to palm mute left and right hand LOL, they are different beasts to control, good training though  >:D ).
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: finstah on February 26, 2015, 08:06:03 AM
Hey Chamai,

how do you like the Orange cab? I was looking at one of their practice amps but no local stores have one to try out.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 26, 2015, 11:29:30 AM
What tubes/patches are you using ? Personally, I've never had an issue with palm muting with MP1/2 (so want to understand better). With '72 Marshall (cranked, they squeal like a banche and you need to palm mute left and right hand LOL, they are different beasts to control, good training though  >:D ).

My main distortion patch.
Bass 0 or 2
Mids -6
Treb 4
Pres 4
Od1 7
Od2 7

I just cant get that low end push. I tried upping the bass and it just gets muddy.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on February 26, 2015, 01:24:21 PM
Try the Bass at 0, Mids at -2, Treb at 4, Pres at -2, OD1 at 6 and OD2 at 8
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 26, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
Hey Chamai,

how do you like the Orange cab? I was looking at one of their practice amps but no local stores have one to try out.

i love this cab. but do check out the mesa cabs as well.

for home use, i really prefer 2x12 over a 4x12.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 27, 2015, 03:26:25 AM
Hey Chamai, these worked really well for me (in stereo), these are stage vol/tweaked so try them loud  >:D I added a little stereo delay and reverb.

  #   Voice OD1  OD2   M   B  M   T  P   Ch D     R
103   DT    3.8   3.4   4.5  9  6   6 10      100  0.0
109   DT    8.5   8.0   8.0  4 -6   0   0      100  0.0
107   DT    3.8   6.5   6.5  9  2   2   4      100  0.0
102   DT    6.0   5.0   5.5  6  4  -2   8      100  0.0

Others have used an eq (of one sort or another) to get the bass better, there are also some mods that change the centre frequency (lowers it IIRC) and make the bass more usable (with good results), search on eq ?

FX  Quadverb:
Stereo Delay L 120ms/FB 26% R 240ms/FB 36%
Pitch Mode = Stereo Chorus, Squarewave, LFO Sp 01/ depth 63/ pitch FB 37%
Reverb = Chamber1 predelay 74ms/ Rev decay 50/ diffusion 6/ density 7
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: finstah on February 27, 2015, 06:03:24 AM
i love this cab. but do check out the mesa cabs as well.

for home use, i really prefer 2x12 over a 4x12.

I used to have a 1960A, waaaay too much for the house lol. My Bogner cubes are perfect. But I would love to get my hands on an Orange practice amp.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on February 27, 2015, 04:09:43 PM
I'm tellin you guys, Thiele Cabinets are the way to go. Put an EVM12L in there and one little box will be as loud and project as much as a 4x12! I'm serious....I tried one of my cabs with a Jackson 4x12 (running 4 V30s) and the Thiele cab sounded just as large as the Jackson.

Now, they do weigh about as much as a small car, so there's that. Funny story: our sound man had never picked up my speaker cabs (that's what I do) until we played in Las Vegas a while back. I got to the club & my gear was already on the stage. First thing he said to me was 'damn your speaker cabs are heavy'   :lol: 
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 27, 2015, 09:23:26 PM
Hey Chamai, these worked really well for me (in stereo), these are stage vol/tweaked so try them loud  >:D I added a little stereo delay and reverb.

  #   Voice OD1  OD2   M   B  M   T  P   Ch D     R
103   DT    3.8   3.4   4.5  9  6   6 10      100  0.0
109   DT    8.5   8.0   8.0  4 -6   0   0      100  0.0
107   DT    3.8   6.5   6.5  9  2   2   4      100  0.0
102   DT    6.0   5.0   5.5  6  4  -2   8      100  0.0

Others have used an eq (of one sort or another) to get the bass better, there are also some mods that change the centre frequency (lowers it IIRC) and make the bass more usable (with good results), search on eq ?

FX  Quadverb:
Stereo Delay L 120ms/FB 26% R 240ms/FB 36%
Pitch Mode = Stereo Chorus, Squarewave, LFO Sp 01/ depth 63/ pitch FB 37%
Reverb = Chamber1 predelay 74ms/ Rev decay 50/ diffusion 6/ density 7

will try these presents when i get home

thanks!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 27, 2015, 09:24:52 PM
Try the Bass at 0, Mids at -2, Treb at 4, Pres at -2, OD1 at 6 and OD2 at 8
sounds really good actually

i find that if i boost the mids over -4, the ada sounds a little harsh and thin
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on February 28, 2015, 02:32:35 AM
Try the Bass at 0, Mids at -2, Treb at 4, Pres at -2, OD1 at 6 and OD2 at 8
sounds really good actually

i find that if i boost the mids over -4, the ada sounds a little harsh and thin

Simple cure to that:
Just do the EQ part of the Mod3.666 .... Let's you fine-tune the EQ/Tone-Stack to your prefs while retaining the MP-1 characteristic gainstructure
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on March 01, 2015, 03:11:57 AM
for the first time ive just tried adjusting the depth (without chorus rate) it really helps with the tone a lot. over all sounds rounder and fatter.

just wonder rnolan, any reason why you set 100 depth on all  your patches.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on March 01, 2015, 06:36:22 AM
Hey Chamai, for exactly what your describing, sounds great  >:D , but works better in MP1 than MP2, in MP2 I think the chorus circuit is is a bit more complicated  :dunno: and that setting can tend to flange a bit (although still works well with some patches). But in MP1 I found it just added a very short delay (depth) as chorus is a short delay generally < 40ms so tends to double, fatten, but the rate at 0,0 so no modulation (pitch shift). You could do a similar thing by adding a very short stereo delay less than 40 ms.

I tripped over it many years ago IIRC, with my old MP1 and it just made it all sound so much better and bigger  >:D . So if I didn't need chorus on a patch, I'd add the depth 100 rate 0.0 to fatten it (in stereo)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on March 01, 2015, 11:33:37 PM
I'm tellin you guys, Thiele Cabinets are the way to go. Put an EVM12L in there and one little box will be as loud and project as much as a 4x12! I'm serious....I tried one of my cabs with a Jackson 4x12 (running 4 V30s) and the Thiele cab sounded just as large as the Jackson.

Now, they do weigh about as much as a small car, so there's that. Funny story: our sound man had never picked up my speaker cabs (that's what I do) until we played in Las Vegas a while back. I got to the club & my gear was already on the stage. First thing he said to me was 'damn your speaker cabs are heavy'   :lol:

but for low volumes, they prob don't sound as big as multiple speakers? never heard them before.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on March 02, 2015, 01:35:36 AM
The commonly used EVM12L needs to be pushed to really shine.
A good alternative for lower vols is the the Boogie 1x12 Wide Body Closed Back Ported cab with either a C90 or V30....
Bogner 1x12 Cubes also sound damn tasty
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: finstah on March 02, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Bogner 1x12 Cubes also sound damn tasty

not that it's REALLY a fair comparison but one of mine out drove, shined, performed better than my old 1960A. I LOVE these things. Worth every penny.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on March 02, 2015, 11:21:55 AM
Bogner 1x12 Cubes also sound damn tasty

not that it's REALLY a fair comparison but one of mine out drove, shined, performed better than my old 1960A. I LOVE these things. Worth every penny.
...and not affordable on this side of the pond  :facepalm: :amaze: :crazy:   ;D
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on March 02, 2015, 12:16:56 PM
Why would you use speakers for low volumes?  :crazy:

That's what headphones are for  ;D

I hear what you're saying, and SC has made some good suggestions (although, I never liked the sound of my V30s at low volumes) FWIW: I think the EVs sound fine at low volumes, but they do get a bit crisper at high volumes. So did my old halfstacks - I had a JCM800 and a Carvin X100b for a while, used them both for every show, which is why I use Two 1x12s now.

The appeal of the EVs is that they do NOT break up, no matter how loud I get. I like that.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on March 03, 2015, 12:48:46 AM
Why would you use speakers for low volumes?  :crazy:

That's what headphones are for  ;D

I hear what you're saying, and SC has made some good suggestions (although, I never liked the sound of my V30s at low volumes) FWIW: I think the EVs sound fine at low volumes, but they do get a bit crisper at high volumes. So did my old halfstacks - I had a JCM800 and a Carvin X100b for a while, used them both for every show, which is why I use Two 1x12s now.

The appeal of the EVs is that they do NOT break up, no matter how loud I get. I like that.

wife gets pissed off if i play too loud.

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on March 03, 2015, 01:14:13 AM
Well build a isolated mancave and keep the wife out of there.  :lol:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on March 03, 2015, 01:20:19 AM
Well build a isolated mancave and keep the wife out of there.  :lol:

buying a new house hopefully next year.

going to sound a proof a room for sure.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on March 03, 2015, 01:21:20 AM
Ahh one of the upsides of being pleasantly divorced LOL, only neighbors to annoy and on one side they're deaf, the other side they like it LOL.
I've got 3 ADA Slant split stacks. 2 for gigging with Boogie 90w Celetions and one with 70w Celetions (wired for stereo or mono) which I use most of the time (less to lug...). They all sound fine at low vols and great when cranked  >:D . Otherwise I have a spare MP2 in my studio rack so plug it in via its cab sim outs and monitor through the studio monitors, works well at any volume.
Lately MikeB has been running his MP1 rig (with GCS-3 in loop) into my studio rig and I've been using my live rig through the single (stereo) split stack, with bass through a Fender 30w boomer (great little amp BTW), and I just sing (no mic) over that, all in my lounge/studio area. Sometimes we go the other way and MikeB uses the single ADA cab and I use the studio MP2 rig.

I only use headphones if I have to  (e.g. vocal overdubs with condenser mics).
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on March 03, 2015, 01:34:19 AM
Ahh one of the upsides of being pleasantly divorced LOL, only neighbors to annoy and on one side they're deaf, the other side they like it LOL.
I've got 3 ADA Slant split stacks. 2 for gigging with Boogie 90w Celetions and one with 70w Celetions (wired for stereo or mono) which I use most of the time (less to lug...). They all sound fine at low vols and great when cranked  >:D . Otherwise I have a spare MP2 in my studio rack so plug it in via its cab sim outs and monitor through the studio monitors, works well at any volume.
Lately MikeB has been running his MP1 rig (with GCS-3 in loop) into my studio rig and I've been using my live rig through the single (stereo) split stack, with bass through a Fender 30w boomer (great little amp BTW), and I just sing (no mic) over that, all in my lounge/studio area. Sometimes we go the other way and MikeB uses the single ADA cab and I use the studio MP2 rig.

I only use headphones if I have to  (e.g. vocal overdubs with condenser mics).

i can't stand using headphones for some reason. how much $$ you spent on gear? amazing that you can rack up so much ada gear.
found a mint jcm 800 stack at a local store, also has a sticker saying it was played at expo 88 or whatever. wanted it so bad but they said i have to buy it as a set. i really don't want another cab. if the cab have v30 or greenbacks, i don't mind picking up. but its got the g12t75's which im not a fan of. but the condition on this thing is great. never seen one this clean before. 2200 bucks canadian... its expensive for what it is. but the condition... damn. 

whats your take on it?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on March 03, 2015, 03:04:28 AM
Hey Chamai, I've got GAS real bad at the moment (picking up hopefully 4th MP2 and got a pair of MB1s and B500B), got told of a pair of vintage slant split stacks today, should I buy them (probably not, I don't need them, but tempted...). Probably the sensible think to say is consolidate what you have, but 2.2k isn't a bad price since it's pristine ?.  But do you need it ? LOL, up to you my friend, it does seem a reasonable deal but will you use it ? I have my old Marshall '72 50w in the corner, I tried it once recently, was a real let down compared the MP1/2.
Headphones have their place, but I'm the same, I don't like using them unless I have to.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on March 03, 2015, 02:16:06 PM
Hey R,did you change out the original speakers in those ADA cabs,normally they are loaded with 50W celestions?

BTW if you don't like your marshall you can always send it to me,i could always use another one  :lol:

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on March 03, 2015, 10:01:08 PM
Hey MJMP, when I bought the cabs the importer (pro audio) was getting the boxes made locally and loading them rather than transport them from the US. I wanted 4 ohm cabs to get the most out of the B200s. Turned out the only 8 ohm Celestians I could get at the time were the 90w Boogies (pro audio was also boogie dealer for Oz). So I went with them. There are some imported ADA cabs around, my single one is an import loaded with 70w 16 ohm celestians (got it from a pawn shop), I wired it to be mono or stereo, goes well with the Carvin TS100 but I can also use it with the Marshall.

There's a couple of ADA vintage split stacks going on Gum tree (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/wollongong-2500/guitars-amps/usa-made-vertical-2x12-celestion-guitar-speaker-cabinets-100w/1070381736 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/wollongong-2500/guitars-amps/usa-made-vertical-2x12-celestion-guitar-speaker-cabinets-100w/1070381736)
), $200 AUD each, he's modified on of them to be open or closed back. I was tempted but I don't need them and I'd need to go pick them up.

Hey if  ever decide to part with the Marshall I'll let you know  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on March 03, 2015, 10:44:10 PM
Hey Chamai, I've got GAS real bad at the moment (picking up hopefully 4th MP2 and got a pair of MB1s and B500B), got told of a pair of vintage slant split stacks today, should I buy them (probably not, I don't need them, but tempted...). Probably the sensible think to say is consolidate what you have, but 2.2k isn't a bad price since it's pristine ?.  But do you need it ? LOL, up to you my friend, it does seem a reasonable deal but will you use it ? I have my old Marshall '72 50w in the corner, I tried it once recently, was a real let down compared the MP1/2.
Headphones have their place, but I'm the same, I don't like using them unless I have to.

one can never have too much gear my friend. i have an extra cab and it bothers me that i have nothing on top of it hahaha. but i really like the sound of a jcm 800. i really don't want that cab because its not my thing. jcm 800 go for 850-1200 canadian used around my area. that extra $1000 bucks can get me other gear that i really need/want. its cool to have a matching cab from the same year, but it all comes to the sound for me. now if i bought got that cab, i would have to buy another from the same era so i could run my mp1 in stereo since i don't have a 4x12. buying that cab/head setup will just lead to more gear.

you gotta stop snatching up those mp2's!! i have never seen one for sale locally. im dying to play it.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on March 07, 2015, 12:00:34 AM
serious gas
just picked up a jcm 2000 dsl. crunch channel has a jcm 800 type of tone.

traded my 4x10 and +175 bucks cdn cash. go my cab for $250 half a year ago. i would say a pretty good score for a pretty good condition head for a total of $425.

only problem is the reverb tank was removed coz it died.

can anyone recommend me a good reverb? my analog fostex is hooked up to my jcm 900 so i don't want to move it around. not sure how well the 2000 take pedals in the loop though.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on March 07, 2015, 12:17:12 AM
I'd try a good reverb in the loop first...the DSLs and TSLs I played through (mostly local and shared backline at fly-in gigs) took pedals up front (Wah, OD, Phaser) and in the Loop (Chorus, Delay, Rev) like any other good amp
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on March 07, 2015, 04:20:45 AM
See if you can get another reverb tank ? I suspect spring reverb (so nice.. :thumb-up: ), otherwise there's lots to choose from I spose. I like the Quadverb reverb, and also the TC units (I've got an M one XL studio variant). My fav digital reverb has always been Lexicon (Lark 224X mmm). Recently used an old SoundCraft Spirit powered desk which had Lexicon reverb included. Very nice and craps on the reverb in my Behringer Eurorack desk, worst effects I've ever heard built into a desk, I think there's one usable patch.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on March 08, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
See if you can get another reverb tank ? I suspect spring reverb (so nice.. :thumb-up: ), otherwise there's lots to choose from I spose. I like the Quadverb reverb, and also the TC units (I've got an M one XL studio variant). My fav digital reverb has always been Lexicon (Lark 224X mmm). Recently used an old SoundCraft Spirit powered desk which had Lexicon reverb included. Very nice and craps on the reverb in my Behringer Eurorack desk, worst effects I've ever heard built into a desk, I think there's one usable patch.

hooked up to my g major and my 31 band eq last night. wow. amp is pretty damn versatile. i can get a nice old school rock tone to a modern high gain sound. not gonna bother with a reverb tank now. can't wait to play more. had the thing cranked to 6 but this thing does run hot.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Rusty on July 09, 2015, 03:22:52 PM
This is my little compact rig that still needs some work and tweaking. I still need to do the MDRT's & 3TM plus I am considering what rnolan recommended with the true bypass mixer thing for the G major 2. I'm not there yet but still going forward.  :)

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 10, 2015, 12:14:54 AM
Hey Rusty, nice  :thumb-up: . I lent MikeB a small desk to try instead of the ART Split mix, as the Split mix is passive, it does reduce the volume a bit.  This isn't a huge issue as there is still plenty of gain available in the MP1 and TC to compensate but Mike did confirm the active (analogue) mixer doesn't reduce the volume (which make sense). We noticed the issue at the last loud/live jam, normally he doesn't notice at bedroom levels or jamming here through my studio monitors (Mike has a GCS3 cab sim in his MP1 loop).  GMaj in parallel definitely sounds better  >:D
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Rusty on July 10, 2015, 07:56:51 AM
That seems very logical rnolan about not noticing much at bedroom levels. I know you right by true bypassing the GMajor. I'm still not 100% on the mixer thing yet and how it will it limit me with midi controlling and switching live. It's something that I will have try out to see wether sacrificing tone for extra midi control and which one matters most. Like, for example,  if I was recording or doing a live gig. I mean if I was recording then i'd definitely go parrallell mode. I'll be asking you some questions on that one as soon as I get a few other things wrapped up.

Thanks rnolan

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Systematic Chaos on July 10, 2015, 11:16:32 PM
Folks, once again....
Pls don't mistake the GMajor 2 for the GMajor or even older units like the QV.
The GMajor 2 is far superior in terms of aAD/DA converters and sound to the GMajor and light years from the old QV which does indeed color the sound and has worst converters of these units.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 11, 2015, 01:18:09 AM
Hey Rusty, no worries, happy to share our experiences. :wave:
@SC salient point my friend. When Mike and I tested the difference it was noticeable enough for Mike to decide to sacrifice some of the CC he'd been using the GMaj 2 for eg master volume in preference for the tone improvement. But I agree, the AD/DA converters are much better than the earlier units. It's an individual call. I'm really liking the TC MOne XL in my studio rack, but I run that off the 2 FX sends.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MikeB on July 12, 2015, 02:16:01 AM
I don't want to get too much into the analogue vs digital debate. I have made the decision run my tc gmajor2 in a parallel loop becuse that's what sounded right to me. The point i want to make here is that there are many ways to skin that cat.  I went with an ART split mix because it was cheap and simple. What i have discovered is that it soaks a fair bit of volume because it is passive. This has only been an issue once when we were having a very loud jam recently and i had to pretty much max everything out. So, if you are keen on the parallel loop solution and want to play at very loud levels, then maybe an active mixer is a better option. More expensive that way, too.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Rusty on July 13, 2015, 10:17:09 AM
Thanks for that info ada'ers. I'll be installing the 3TM and MDRT work this week so the system is down at the moment.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 15, 2015, 07:22:31 PM
Here's a picture of the family

wet/dry/wet hair metal rig: Marshall JCM 2000 100w + Orange 2x12 --> Rockcrusher Attenuator: line out -->TC G Major --> BK Butler power amp --> Rocktron 1x12 cabs. JCM 2000 loop: MXR Analog Chorus --> ART 31 band eq.
rig 2: Marshall Vintage modern 50w + Mesa 2x12. loop: Fostex 3180 spring reverb --> MXR 10 band eq.
rig 3: Marshall JCM 900 DR 100w (shares same effects as Vintage Modern)
rig 4: ADA MP1. loop: Digitech DSP 21 Pro
rig 5: Yamaha G100 212
Pedalboard. Diamond Compressor --> MXR Micro Amp --> Tubescreamer --> Boss NS2.
Korg rack Pitch black tuner first in chain.
Guitars:
Gibson Les Paul Standard 2008
Fender Telecaster American 2013
Krammer AH30 1987?
Bass:
Warwick Thumb bolt-on 5 string

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/2000_zpslldo9tdk.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/2000_zpslldo9tdk.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/vm_zpsrt2svahc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/vm_zpsrt2svahc.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 16, 2015, 05:02:16 AM
Hey Chamai, very nice  :thumb-up: but all the guitars are the wrong way round (LoL) sorry cheap pun. The 2008 LPS looks particularly nice  :whoohoo!:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on July 16, 2015, 09:02:41 AM
Nice setup!!!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 16, 2015, 12:37:30 PM
Hey Chamai, very nice  :thumb-up: but all the guitars are the wrong way round (LoL) sorry cheap pun. The 2008 LPS looks particularly nice  :whoohoo!:

thank you sir, I really hate being a lefty. impossible to buy guitars. I was lucky to find that lp for a decent price.

serious gas right now. still gotta get myself a jcm 800
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 16, 2015, 12:38:51 PM
Nice setup!!!

thanks man

I always stare at my guitar stuff before I go to bed. I try my best to keep all my stuff clean. wax the guitars and wipe down the amps every few weeks.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 17, 2015, 12:06:23 AM
Hey Chamai, gotta watch that GAS LoL, had it bad myself lately, Yeah must be really hard being a lefty, as you say very difficult to find decent guitars and if you do they tend to be expensive.
Good luck with a JCM 800.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 17, 2015, 01:26:17 AM
Hey Chamai, gotta watch that GAS LoL, had it bad myself lately, Yeah must be really hard being a lefty, as you say very difficult to find decent guitars and if you do they tend to be expensive.
Good luck with a JCM 800.

we are moving soon, so i can't spend much money on gear after that. stuck with mortgage payments. and the wife said i have enough amps already. im happy with just my tele and my les paul. it covers pretty much everything i need. i could use a strait and a SG though :P

i usually look out for deals in local stores. whenever they have lefty trade ins , they always take it in for less and sell it cheap just coz they say they sell less than 10 lefties a year. both my tele and my les pauls are used. i can score good amps and gear usually for cheap. a lot of times i turn it into profit if i end up not liking it. picked up a used cab for 100 bucks cad and someone did a straight traded me a TC G Major for it.

JCM 900 MKIII and a JCM 800 reissue is on my shopping list.  :D

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Rusty on July 17, 2015, 08:28:35 AM
Very nice indeed, much fun must be had in that room,  :)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: GuitarBuilder on July 17, 2015, 09:45:10 AM
Beautiful rigs, Chamai!

I'm glad to see someone else with terminal Marshall GAS.  I just got a 6100LM (30th Anniversary amp) and I'd like to suggest you try one if you have not yet already.  It may well be the ultimate Marshall amp.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on July 17, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
Very nice gear! I would have a lot of fun in there, but hate to clean that place - ha ha

I had an old JCM800 (2203 I think), one channel at a time. I used it clean the whole time I had it, never even used the gain. I remember trying another Marshall in the store one time, and the sales guy watching me dial all the knobs for ZERO gain, max clean. He said 'that's gonna sound way too clean' ha ha, I said 'I know, that's the idea'

He didn't know I was running rack gear in front of it, of course. Great amp, but I do NOT miss carrying the big cabs around.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 17, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
Very nice indeed, much fun must be had in that room,  :)

anyone here on adadepot is welcome to hang out. anyone in Vancouver bc Canada?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 17, 2015, 02:36:49 PM
Beautiful rigs, Chamai!

I'm glad to see someone else with terminal Marshall GAS.  I just got a 6100LM (30th Anniversary amp) and I'd like to suggest you try one if you have not yet already.  It may well be the ultimate Marshall amp.

i think i have seen a combo at a local store. i didn't try it out though. does it have a decent amount of gain like a jcm 800,900? or is it more voiced like a plexi? i just love the marshall sound. mid gain amps with an overdrive upfront is how i like my amps to sound. i don't think i will play anything else. i do prefer older marshalls just because i prefer to really push the power tubes to get a distortion where as newer amps tend to have way too much pre amp gain. some modern amps really lack the picking feel.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 17, 2015, 02:47:08 PM
Very nice gear! I would have a lot of fun in there, but hate to clean that place - ha ha

I had an old JCM800 (2203 I think), one channel at a time. I used it clean the whole time I had it, never even used the gain. I remember trying another Marshall in the store one time, and the sales guy watching me dial all the knobs for ZERO gain, max clean. He said 'that's gonna sound way too clean' ha ha, I said 'I know, that's the idea'

He didn't know I was running rack gear in front of it, of course. Great amp, but I do NOT miss carrying the big cabs around.

trying to keep my stuff away from the kids is the challenge. I worry that they will one day destroy my guitars and use their felt pens to draw on my amps.

most amps don't have an fx loop back then, do you run everything in the front?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DesmoBob on July 17, 2015, 05:36:50 PM
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/2000_zpslldo9tdk.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/2000_zpslldo9tdk.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/vm_zpsrt2svahc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/vm_zpsrt2svahc.jpg.html)

Only one word can describe: BEHOLD!!!  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Peter H. Boer on July 18, 2015, 04:14:34 AM
Nice bass  :bow: (is there an MB-1 in that rack?  C:-))

Oh, and nice bonzai bass stuff 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 18, 2015, 08:43:40 PM
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/2000_zpslldo9tdk.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/2000_zpslldo9tdk.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/vm_zpsrt2svahc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/vm_zpsrt2svahc.jpg.html)

Only one word can describe: BEHOLD!!!  :bow:  :bow:

thanks!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 18, 2015, 08:45:45 PM
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/2000_zpslldo9tdk.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/2000_zpslldo9tdk.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/vm_zpsrt2svahc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/vm_zpsrt2svahc.jpg.html)

Only one word can describe: BEHOLD!!!  :bow:  :bow:

thanks!

no MB1. there was one for sale locally for 350 cad with foot switch, i wanted to get it, but i was still tone hunting with guitar amps.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: RandallRG on July 18, 2015, 10:23:27 PM
Some of the boys.... :metal:
*1984 USA Kramer Baretta (One Bad-Ass Axe)
*1985 Kramer Focus 1000
*Jackson Kelly KE3 (Skulls)
*1985 Randall RG100ES Full Stack All Original (In memory of Brother Dime may he R.I.P.)
*Ampeg VH140C (The Metal Monster :metal:)
*Ampeg VH150 (Another Monster that is getting very hard to find)
*ADA Digitizer 4 (For Sale)
*ADA MP-1
*ADA B200S
*BBE 482 (For Sale)
*Digitech GSP2101 (Killer Unit!)
*Peavey 4x12 Cab
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr306/32spitzer/Gear%20Pic%206_zpsg1m3v6kk.jpg) (http://s494.photobucket.com/user/32spitzer/media/Gear%20Pic%206_zpsg1m3v6kk.jpg.html)
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr306/32spitzer/014_zpstzwkbe7b.jpg) (http://s494.photobucket.com/user/32spitzer/media/014_zpstzwkbe7b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 19, 2015, 12:12:54 AM
Hey Steve, Very nice collection  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: RandallRG on July 19, 2015, 03:55:05 AM
Hey Steve, Very nice collection  :thumb-up:
Thanks Rich!  :metal:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Peter H. Boer on July 19, 2015, 06:35:28 AM
no MB1. there was one for sale locally for 350 cad with foot switch, i wanted to get it, but i was still tone hunting with guitar amps.

That's the good thing about getting an MB-1. The tone hunt is over  O0
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on July 19, 2015, 09:11:14 AM
no MB1. there was one for sale locally for 350 cad with foot switch, i wanted to get it, but i was still tone hunting with guitar amps.

That's the good thing about getting an MB-1. The tone hunt is over  O0

Hahaha good one  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 19, 2015, 03:28:05 PM
Some of the boys.... :metal:
*1984 USA Kramer Baretta (One Bad-Ass Axe)
*1985 Kramer Focus 1000
*Jackson Kelly KE3
*1985 Randall RG100ES Full Stack All Original (In memory of Brother Dime may he R.I.P.)
*Ampeg VH140C (The Metal Monster :metal:)
*Ampeg VH150 (Another Monster that is getting very hard to find)
*ADA Digitizer 4 (For Sale)
*BBE 482 (For Sale)
*ADA MP-1
*ADA B200S (Be here on Monday)
*Digitech GSP2101
*Peavey 4x12 Cab
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr306/32spitzer/Gear%20Pic%206_zpsg1m3v6kk.jpg) (http://s494.photobucket.com/user/32spitzer/media/Gear%20Pic%206_zpsg1m3v6kk.jpg.html)

would love to play the rg100 full stack.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rADAr on July 22, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
Here is where my two MP-1's are hanging out at the moment...  :) The one with the Depot sticker is a very early one, v.1.36 according to Mythos who did the noise- and stock gain-mod on it some years back. The upper one is his very own that he sold me some time afterwards, it's a version 2.01.

The Quadraverb has had a makeover, I never liked the original colour of the display so changed it to a green one ::)

I have a Carvin Tube 100 poweramp that I use with this rack, and recently I also got a Carvin DCM200L, but haven't tried that one with the MP-1's yet.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/Pheutos/IMG_1688.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/Pheutos/media/IMG_1688.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: RandallRG on July 22, 2015, 03:20:56 PM
Hey rADAr hows it going? Sweet rack Dude! Question...how do you like the 1.38 version compared to the 2.01 version? I have a 2.01 & have a chance to pick up a 1.38 @ a Killer price & was just wondering if there was alot of difference in the software/sound etc between the two? Thanks Dude  :metal:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rADAr on July 22, 2015, 09:57:28 PM
Hi there, Randall! Thanks for the nice words. I'm currently without a band, so that's why the rack is on the floor in my living room... lol. Hope to get back in business with the ADA-rack soon

I got the 1.38 in 2004, and it sounded amazing. I was surprised how clean and quiet it was, very little noise coming from the unit. Later I did the battery,noise and stock gain mod. After that it changed for the worse regarding the noise. It hums too much and therefore I haven't used it much since. Actually I think about undoing the Stock Gain Mod and updating it with an MRDT, maybe it will end up in Belgium at MarshallJMP's eventually. The 2.01 I got later on, and this is what I use now. Not because it is better, but because of the troubles with the first one.

If you have a chance of getting an unmodded 1.38 for cheap, go for it. You can't have too many MP-1's  :))
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 23, 2015, 12:17:41 AM
Nice rig rADAr  :thumb-up:
The Carvin DCM200L should sound good. Another member went that way with his MP1 rig and IIRC like it allot. And a whole lot less weight to carry compared to the TS100, it's a brick, but very nice amp.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rADAr on July 23, 2015, 01:49:07 AM
Yeah, I think the DCM200L will be nice. I will need to get a 6U rack to fit it in there, I always like to keep some space between the units.

Lots of pros used Carvin power amps back in the day. Michael Wilton, Chris DeGarmo, Vito Bratta comes to mind. They all had Carvin FET poweramps in their rigs at a time. I wonder if there is a huge difference in sound between the mosfet FET450/900 amps and the DCM's that Carvin makes now?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: RandallRG on July 23, 2015, 02:45:21 AM
Some of the boys.... :metal:
*1984 USA Kramer Baretta (One Bad-Ass Axe)
*1985 Kramer Focus 1000
*Jackson Kelly KE3
*1985 Randall RG100ES Full Stack All Original (In memory of Brother Dime may he R.I.P.)
*Ampeg VH140C (The Metal Monster :metal:)
*Ampeg VH150 (Another Monster that is getting very hard to find)
*ADA Digitizer 4 (For Sale)
*BBE 482 (For Sale)
*ADA MP-1
*ADA B200S (Be here on Monday)
*Digitech GSP2101
*Peavey 4x12 Cab
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr306/32spitzer/Gear%20Pic%206_zpsg1m3v6kk.jpg) (http://s494.photobucket.com/user/32spitzer/media/Gear%20Pic%206_zpsg1m3v6kk.jpg.html)

would love to play the rg100 full stack.
Trust me Dude....it's L-O-U-D! :metal:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on July 23, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
Hey Radar,did you hear anything about Mythos,i haven't heared from him in a long time,last thing i knew he was moving to Greece.I kinda miss him,he was a nice guy  :-[
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rADAr on July 24, 2015, 12:37:48 AM
Hi, Marshall! Haven't heard much from Mythos, but I think he moved, yes. He is on Faceb**k. Lot's of the people from the old Depot seem to have dissapeared.... With ADA (the company) releasing new products like the MP-1-Channel and with more products in the works (Perhaps a MP-3?) maybe they'll return. Once an ADA addict, always an ADA addict, or something like that..hehe ::)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: El Chiguete on July 24, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If they bring an MP-3 (btw there is another thread with our requests for it) that really is an updated version of the older units with some new features and NOT something silly like the MP-1 Channel then for sure we all will be costumers!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on July 24, 2015, 11:02:04 PM
Nice rig rADAr  :thumb-up:
The Carvin DCM200L should sound good. Another member went that way with his MP1 rig and IIRC like it allot. And a whole lot less weight to carry compared to the TS100, it's a brick, but very nice amp.
Yes it is I you speak of, and the DCM200L sounds great with my MP1, JMP1 and Voodu Valve! Be sure to use the EQ expand button!! It cuts 4db off at 1k (a little high mid scoop). :metal:
Extremely transparent power amp. :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on July 25, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
would love to see a mp-3. BRING RACK GEAR BACK.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 26, 2015, 01:42:22 AM
Nice rig rADAr  :thumb-up:
The Carvin DCM200L should sound good. Another member went that way with his MP1 rig and IIRC like it allot. And a whole lot less weight to carry compared to the TS100, it's a brick, but very nice amp.
Yes it is I you speak of, and the DCM200L sounds great with my MP1, JMP1 and Voodu Valve! Be sure to use the EQ expand button!! It cuts 4db off at 1k (a little high mid scoop). :metal:
Extremely transparent power amp. :thumb-up:
I've been eying one off in the music store for a while, thinking to build a smaller (4RU) easy to carry setup. It would also be a good choice for a small bass rig. Thanks for the heads up on the eq expand button, when I first checked the DCM200 out on the Carvin site it didn't explain exactly what it did. So if you are using it with studio monitors it acts like a loudness button, makes sense...
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on February 26, 2016, 11:38:31 AM
Updated rig pic. It's always changing...but this is my current set-up.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on February 26, 2016, 12:13:29 PM
So adadepot is a sort of asylum for People like you and I... gear addicted ! :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on February 26, 2016, 12:20:31 PM
I would have to say yes. There seems to be quite a few of us here  :lol:
Believe it or not, I might be acquiring a Mesa 50/50 next week. :facepalm: :facepalm:

Had to reload the pics. The pedal board was wrong.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on February 26, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
And me ... ada flanger 1977... following your feedback à gsp 2101 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on February 26, 2016, 12:41:34 PM
Nice :thumb-up:
Funny you mention the 2101, the guy with the Mesa wants the 2101 and $100 for the 50/50. I'm thinking about doing it. I love my Carvin however I miss the power tube saturation. I haven't had the 2101 long enough to maximize it's potential, so still on the fence. :dunno:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on February 26, 2016, 01:24:03 PM
I recently get a  9200 marshall... as ada geek i do love my mt100, but there is noway to compare about sound.
But I still use my mt 100 because it's way lighter, less fragile when you move... it's easier !
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: DorsetRatt on February 26, 2016, 03:05:10 PM
So adadepot is a sort of asylum for People like you and I... gear addicted ! :facepalm:

I like this asylum idea ... can we have a new section added to the forum :banana-upsidedown:

@Soloist, that 50/50 would be very tempting :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on February 27, 2016, 06:58:33 AM
Well i was going true this topic and it seems i never posted my rig here.So here it is.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on February 27, 2016, 07:01:23 AM
My test rig ,2 ADA cabs,these have the vintage switch added, and some other ADA power amps
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on February 27, 2016, 08:18:56 AM
Ok so couple years ago you 've done a "hold up" at ADA's factory and on your way, you made a Quick stop at Marshall's
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on February 27, 2016, 08:29:11 AM
Well actually i did hold up the old ADA distributor here in Brussels years ago.I bought a lot of NOS ADA gear from him for really low prices.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on February 27, 2016, 08:32:49 AM
Good shot ! :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on February 27, 2016, 08:36:17 AM
Brand new ada gear... I dreaming of !
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on February 27, 2016, 08:46:58 AM
He still had a lot of stock back then.But he refused to sell me his parts stock.

I rember i payed 100 euro for the 2 ADA cabs,150 for the T100S,100 euro for a MXC pack,75 euro for the B200S and 125 euro for the B500S.All new in the box.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on February 27, 2016, 08:55:38 AM
ok... Heist time !         where does he live ? >:D
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on February 27, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
It's Titan Audio in Schaerbeek (Brussel).Not sure if it still exists.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 27, 2016, 12:23:02 PM
Well MJMP, you (IMHO) deserve the good prices, I payed way more for mine over the years, which I have absolutely no regrets about. IIRC my mp 2 was around 2.5k, I think I payed 500ish for b200s and 750ish for 2 x split stacks and I was getting good discounts...
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on February 27, 2016, 12:51:54 PM
Nice gear MJMP!!  :thumb-up:

Are you using V30's or Greenbacks?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on February 27, 2016, 01:46:44 PM
In the marshall cabs you mean?If so both,i have an old '68 marshall cab with the original greenbacks,i have a cab with V30's,another one with G12T75's and one with G12 65's.This to get some different tones fron each cab.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: luftguitar on March 25, 2016, 09:10:27 PM
(http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y323/Marcelo_Luft/06ed886a-6418-40f8-bc6e-3b932654a909_zpsarfibeb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: luftguitar on March 25, 2016, 09:15:21 PM
(http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y323/Marcelo_Luft/20160112163410_zps0qcefzh6.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on March 26, 2016, 06:28:22 AM
So tell us a bit more,i see some pedals,how is it all connected?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: luftguitar on March 26, 2016, 09:51:45 AM
Hello, I turn the pedals and racks in Switch GCX the Voodoo Lab, and put in the drawer below, some use. But the picture was wearing differently, but in theory this is how the connection, and I trigger with Midi control pedal GCX presets I program.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on March 26, 2016, 08:58:09 PM
I like the little paint brush  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: luftguitar on March 28, 2016, 07:26:29 PM
hehehe cool, the brush is a fundamental part of my rig! ;)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: NeverAfter on April 20, 2016, 05:29:46 AM

...The Quadraverb has had a makeover, I never liked the original colour of the display so changed it to a green one ::) ...

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/Pheutos/IMG_1688.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/Pheutos/media/IMG_1688.jpg.html)

That Quadraverb would look awesome paired with a MP-2!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on April 21, 2016, 02:17:14 AM
(That Quadraverb would look awesome paired with a MP-2!), That's whats in my live rig and my QV is really early one with green screen, also a midverb 4 and IPS33 smart shift and 8 channel mixer velcroed to the bottom of the rack
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on April 26, 2016, 02:00:03 PM
one configuration of rack that I use, there are a few, this is just one.  I would like to make it bigger but the more I have the more I have to leave behind if I travel abroad and then it's pointless.  I'll be lucky if I get a rockmaster or MP1 to France/Belgium/Holland!

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k114/themetalmartyr/IMG_1012.jpg) (http://s86.photobucket.com/user/themetalmartyr/media/IMG_1012.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Kim on April 26, 2016, 03:44:32 PM
That's a pretty clean and no-frills rack, RG.  I don't see why you couldn't take that on tour.   :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on April 27, 2016, 02:55:08 AM
I know you'd think it right?  But travel restrictions on luggage ect will have a part to play getting on and off planes.

There is a Boss GT5 and external footswitch to go as well.

I switch between preamps BTW.  I also have an ART Reverb unit I would like to take as well but there is no point now since I might not be able to take this.

I reckon I could take a pre, power amp, in a 2u and GT5 in a padded bag.  This is feasible I think.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on April 27, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
Just a thought, if you got a deep 2RU rack (as opposed to the shallow ones), could the GT5 fit at an angle (with appropriate padding) in the back of the rack ? Or if you went to 4 RU you could include other rack gear and maybe the GT5 velcroed (or some other method) inside the rear lid ? I used to gaph my 8 ch desk into the rear lid of my 8 RU rack then flip it up on top to play. Now I have it velcroed to the bottom of the rack with heavy duty velcro.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rabidgerry on April 27, 2016, 11:28:33 AM
Been thinking about the bigger rack, but that more weight per one item and this is the issue with luggage restrictions and all that shit.  Having the GT5 in a bag is actually useful as all the cables can go in there also.  I would probably be looking to expand my rack by another one or two units but it's really no point, as when it comes travel time, I'll be limited again. 

Really is a bummer being a band at this level sometimes, you've no roadies, no money, and you can't get all your gear on a plane.  I still love it though of course or I wouldn't bother.  Even worse for the drummer I suppose, he has to show up and pray to jesus the drum kit is to his liking  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on April 28, 2016, 07:41:40 AM
It must be frustrating, I can get a sound out of most things, but nothing like having your own rig  >:D
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on April 30, 2016, 09:43:27 AM
Hey Gang,

   I totally understand where RG is coming from, having traveled on tours in the past, and airlines are a major pain in the ass when it comes to gigging musicians. Unless you have your own plane, they charge you on a pro-rated scale for the weight you bring on board. Since none of us are rich enough to afford our own aircraft, I would do basically what RG is doing, and take along a suitcase rig to my liking, (provided it's under 50 lbs), and plug into whatever amp is available with a decent tone. My preference is usually a Fender Twin, or a similar amp with a good strong clean tone, then my pedal rig does the rest.
   In the end, it really doesn't matter what you play through, because your sound comes from you, and not really the equipment :thumb-up:

   Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Kim on April 30, 2016, 10:58:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMJneJn9IgM

I'd fill up an empty guitar case with concrete just for this guy.  >:(
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on April 30, 2016, 11:41:54 AM
Gimme five minutes, I want to have a wall to wall conversation with this guy
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on May 01, 2016, 06:31:52 AM
Gimme five minutes, I want to have a wall to wall conversation with this guy

Make sure the walls are concrete ;)

Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on May 01, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
No conversation will help, this butthead can only understand a huge kick in his a$$
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on May 02, 2016, 05:49:08 AM
 :facepalm: , what a thing to do to a guitar....  Unfortunately, kicking him in the a$$ would probably just make him spit on it as well next time...

@ Harley, if you check out the APP1 manual, it has a good section at the back recommending suitable "clean/flat" eq settings for a few amps (including fender twin, Marshall) to plug in the APP1 as a preamp. They are not what you would expect BTW.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on May 02, 2016, 02:40:25 PM
:facepalm: , what a thing to do to a guitar....  Unfortunately, kicking him in the a$$ would probably just make him spit on it as well next time...

@ Harley, if you check out the APP1 manual, it has a good section at the back recommending suitable "clean/flat" eq settings for a few amps (including fender twin, Marshall) to plug in the APP1 as a preamp. They are not what you would expect BTW.

Not what I would expect in what way?

Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on May 03, 2016, 05:49:50 AM
Hey Harley, check out the manual (I think I posted it on the APP1 topic.  Intuitively I would have expected that if you put all the eq knobs centre it would be  "flat(ish), but the settings recommended are quite different to that and also quite different per different amp, kind of makes sense I spose for guitar amps.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on May 03, 2016, 02:52:28 PM
Hey Richard,

   Thanks, I'll go check that out.

   You know, the whole purpose of even looking at something like this, is to get a Fly Rig together that would reproduce a tone like my rack gear. From the video demos of the APP1 when it first came out, it didn't really seem like ADA was trying to do that, but rather introduce something new to the market. Here are a couple of points I keep in mind when I'm looking at things like this, and I'm not just referring to the APP!, but everything on the internet;

    Despite all the advertising hype, what you see and hear will not sound the same or react the same for you when you get it home.

    The other is similar in that respect which we are all familiar with, and that is, even when you go to the local music store and audition a piece of equipment, once again, when you get it home, it doesn't sound the same.I'm sure we've all had that revelation before.

    Personally, my amplifier tastes revolve around what I grew up with, and the amps that really made an impression on me at an early age. Those would be Fenders and Marshalls. When you look at all the current amps, and amp modelers on the market today from those manufacturers, they show off all these high gain settings for Fender Twins, and Marshall Plexis, but back in the day, those amps claim to fame was how clean they were at loud volumes, and the pristine clarity they preserved while amplifying your guitar! ADA didn't fit into this pattern, because when they hit the market with the MP-1, it offered these tones, but gave you so many others to choose from, and the way to create and shape your own unique amp tone if you were inclined to do so. That's how ADA made it's way to my first choice list as the "go-to" amplifier system. The access to the tones I already loved, but with a lot more versatility than anything else out there.

   To be quite honest, in a fly rig setup, I'm not quite sure that the APP1, even with the MP-1Ch, can do that, and it would cost a good chunk of change to get into that rig and end up disappointed that you don't have the versatility of the racks.
   I am looking at the Tech 21 RK5, or the FlyRig5, as a means of getting the basic tones in a more cost effective way.

   Just my skepticism getting the best of me.

  Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on May 05, 2016, 05:29:29 AM
Hey Harley, absolutely, and, as you say, it's a fair whack of change without knowing it's what you want. Albeit APP1 with MP1ch in loop is a interesting patch idea. I'd like to try it (at home). Maybe Monty can try it for us ?

Have you ever heard a SANs amp ? (about the size of a small pedal), I used to play with a guy who used one (I had MP1 back them), it wasn't half bad (early 90s' BTW).
So there's 3 guitar solos in this song, the first was overdubbed later (and shouldn't be there, the rest was live, warts and all), the 2nd is Scotty using his SANs amp (Tokai LP), direct and listen through the monitors, the 3rd is me and my MP1 rig
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIr9nZ4aJfo)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on May 05, 2016, 02:16:03 PM
Hey Richard,

   Yes, I've seen the Sansamp, and the two fly rigs I mentioned both have that included with them. When I suggested the MP-1 Channel in the effects loop of the APP-1, I was thinking more along the lines adding another voice to the APP-1, to give you three, possibly four basic tonal options.
   The APP-1 has two voices with a boost, which could act as a third voice if you set it right, then with the MP-1 Channel in the loop, you can add a clean, or distortion tone to the existing voice in the APP-1. That kind of blend can produce tones they didn't think of at ADA, and once again the boost can change it further for an over the top lead tone. Adding the GCS, gives you the ability to plug directly into the house PA, or a clean amplifier. That was my thinking when I suggested it, but just those three components alone would give me a great guitar tone, but without any effects, and the cost over here would be in the neighborhood of $1000 USD. Now, add in a few stomp boxes, or a single high end multi effects box, and that cost can add up to another $500 - $1000. That's four to eight times the cost of one of the Tech 21  units mentioned above which will already give you reverb, delay, and chorus, (of sorts). While I am an ADA Devotee, that is kind of prohibitive at the moment.

   Nice video there Richard, blurry, but a good sound mix over all. I can see why you thought the first solo shouldn't have been there. It did seem out of context with the rest of the song, in fact it was kind of raspy sounding compared to the smoothness of the rest of the band. (Just my opinion). The other two solos sound great! The Sansamp blends in very nicely, and I still say the MP-1 is a killer tone machine! Accordion with delay??? :o Only in the Land Down Under!!!  :bow: It was cool though. You guys get the gold star for originality on that one! I want to hear you guys play Roundabout with that. I'll bet that would be wild :whoohoo!:


Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on May 07, 2016, 05:01:03 AM
Hey Harley, Pat Cash's Head Band (brainchild of Barry Maculock) was mostly 3 piece (Bass, drums, guitar) and some times, if there was enough money for the gig 2 guitars.  Scotty and I played guitar depending who was available etc.  It was good with both of us because he's a bit country and I'm all rock, also the solos were mostly E or A so it was good to have someone to share them as one runs out of ideas after a while.  The band never rehearsed, ever, Barry would just say oh it's a bumper bumper in E or whatever and away we'd go... Lots of fun and very spontaneous.
So Barry has an idea to make a "live" recording so we assembled in a warehouse (local PA/Lights company), set up in a circle (drums, bass/vox, keys, Scotty Guitar, Anton Squeeze Box (he often plays with jazz bands), Harmonica, then me guitar). Miced it up down a multicore to the office area, mixed direct to DAT.  The idea (as most of them had never played with us before) was to play through all the songs to learn them and then play them again to record.  Though we recorded everything, and it's mostly the first takes that are the best (IIRC a case of beer diapered along the way LoL). The DAT tapes were lost in the back of a taxi, I'd at least done a decent cassette dub of most of it (I left out some of the in between talking etc), which I later sampled into protools. It's a great warts and all live recording if you like good pub blues rock and even has an instrumental doodle I wrote many years ago (attached).
Barry decided he didn't like the keyboard solo (which is under the added guitar solo), shame as I like it, very Pink Floyd, so years later he got a mate of his to play another guitar solo over it (which it doesn't need and as you say doesn't really fit sonically). I have the original version without the adulteration.  Barry also decided to make the youtube clip (he'd got some animation/video package). So we sent him some footage to include (the video of me is from a totally different gig with another band years later) and he fed it through his thingy, so it's meant to be all blurry apparently.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on May 07, 2016, 05:02:19 AM
Here's the original version
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on May 07, 2016, 06:19:30 PM
Hey Richard,

   I see what you mean about the original recording. I'm with you on that one, I would have left the keyboards in too, that definitely fit the vibe of the song.

   I like that RevRock mp3 also :thumb-up: Guitars are very Satch-erized! That Summer Song groove is a lot of fun to jam to. You can go all over the map with that one and still be right with it.

   Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on May 09, 2016, 03:04:57 AM
Hey Harley, glad you like it  O:-) , I whipped it up at a party years ago (ran out of songs to play LoL). That's the only recording of it and I wrote a couple of new bits to it at the time.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: tomy on June 09, 2016, 01:16:21 AM
I bring a cooler to every gig - I'm a beer snob

If they are offering Bud, Coors, or any of those derivatives, I'll ask for water

hey Dante,

Bud, Coors... derivatives ! you mean those are not real beer ?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 09, 2016, 08:39:17 AM
You can also add Heineken to the derivate list  ;D
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 09, 2016, 01:23:50 PM
You can also add Heineken to the derivate list  ;D

What's wrong with Heineken? I like those every now and then :dunno:

Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 09, 2016, 02:38:10 PM
Really? Yuk,here in Belgium we call it "river water" They don't even sell it here because nobody drinks it.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on June 14, 2016, 01:13:54 PM
I bring a cooler to every gig - I'm a beer snob

If they are offering Bud, Coors, or any of those derivatives, I'll ask for water

hey Dante,

Bud, Coors... derivatives ! you mean those are not real beer ?

That's what I'm saying, yes. Gimme a nice hoppy IPA anytime
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 14, 2016, 01:44:11 PM
Ok what's an IPA?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 14, 2016, 01:57:01 PM
Ok what's an IPA?

   Something that makes your face pucker up like a prune :beer:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 14, 2016, 03:28:55 PM
Ok what's an IPA?

   Something that makes your face pucker up like a prune :beer:

This doesn't help  :dunno:  ;D
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Peter H. Boer on June 14, 2016, 11:17:55 PM
Ok what's an IPA?
Indian Pale Ale.
Very hoppy bitter pale ale.
This https://www.brewdog.com/usa/beer/headliners/punk-ipa (https://www.brewdog.com/usa/beer/headliners/punk-ipa) is a very nice one  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 15, 2016, 03:44:42 AM
Ok I see now,thanks Peter. Now I know what it is.

We also have some breweries that make ale beer like
Horse-ale, Ginder-ale, Vieux-temps, Palm speciale, Vedett
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 15, 2016, 06:31:43 AM
I'll stick to Lager :beer:

    Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on June 15, 2016, 10:17:44 AM
Ok what's an IPA?
Indian Pale Ale.
Very hoppy bitter pale ale.
This https://www.brewdog.com/usa/beer/headliners/punk-ipa (https://www.brewdog.com/usa/beer/headliners/punk-ipa) is a very nice one  :thumb-up:

Thanks Peter!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on June 27, 2016, 11:10:32 AM
Updated Rig.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 27, 2016, 11:19:23 AM
Wow big rack with some nice goodies in it  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 27, 2016, 02:41:17 PM
Yep!

   A lot of preamp choices in that one it looks like. Would you care to share the signal path/switching set up in there?

      Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on June 27, 2016, 08:14:52 PM
This is my current rig but I have a small collection of pedals that I will rotate in and out depending on my mood. The two guitars are just the ones that comfortably sit in that little corner, I've got others that are out of view.

I'm not out doing a lot of gigging at the moment so this currently a living room warrior, but things are happening behind the scenes that might result in it needing an upgrade to make it more gigable.

EDIT: Not sure why the pic uploaded sideways, the actual pic is right side up.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on June 28, 2016, 04:33:04 AM
Hey PrimalScream91, nice  :thumb-up: . That Ltd is a nice looking guitar.

Hey Soloist, carumbah, nice rack, something for all occasions LoL
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on June 28, 2016, 06:24:48 AM
Hey PrimalScream91, nice  :thumb-up: . That Ltd is a nice looking guitar.

Thanks! It plays like a dream, it's made me look at EMG's in a completely different light.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on June 28, 2016, 06:56:28 AM
Some love em, some hate em..  I've never been a big fan of active PUs for guitar but then others like them allot.  I think they are popular for really high gain stuff as they are quiet, low microphonics and very articulate so you can hear each note even with full on distortion, also good for guitars tuned down a tone or 2.  Also I haven't tried the more modern EMGs, just the early ones when they first came out. So I'm sure they've got better over the years.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on June 28, 2016, 07:12:09 AM
Some love em, some hate em..  I've never been a big fan of active PUs for guitar but then others like them allot.  I think they are popular for really high gain stuff as they are quiet, low microphonics and very articulate so you can hear each note even with full on distortion, also good for guitars tuned down a tone or 2.  Also I haven't tried the more modern EMGs, just the early ones when they first came out. So I'm sure they've got better over the years.

I was completely against active pickups, I grabbed that guitar because I knew if I liked the way it played I could order one with Duncans. But after plugging it in I was surprised at how well it sounded and bought it. I don't see myself putting EMG's in my other guitars though, I like passive pups too much.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Griphook on June 28, 2016, 07:36:40 AM
Here is my tiny Rig.

The Charvel is equipped with Seymour Duncans Livewire-Metal. 18V-Active-PUs. Some serious Gain-Beasts. Unfortunately, No Chance to get a clean Sound from these  :-\
I've bought this guitar without knowing that the equipped PUs were Active. I do  not like Active Pus either, but now it is pretty cool for controlled feedback and Gain-Overload  >:D


Awesome Pedal-Selection, Primal  :thumb-up: Love the Flashback!

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on June 28, 2016, 07:51:49 AM
One of the great things about building a rig is how it comes together over time, I think if I would have bought the rig I have all at once I wouldn't appreciate it as much as I do. You've got a nice rack there, I can't wait to start working on my rack.

Thanks for the complements, I'm really digging my board at the moment, the Flashback is actually my newest addition to the board, I can't believe I waited this long to get one!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Griphook on June 28, 2016, 08:11:29 AM
I only got a MXR-Black Label Chorus behind the Rack. Just love the subtle Chorus. It is always on and in the signal path ^.^

But I also plan to get a nice boost and a midi looper  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on June 28, 2016, 08:18:29 AM
I like the Analog Chorus, and I struggle with wanting to keep it turned on. It's always a internal discussion of weather I like my tone with it always on or off!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on June 28, 2016, 08:26:55 AM
   A lot of preamp choices in that one it looks like. Would you care to share the signal path/switching set up in there?
      Harley 8)
   
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on June 28, 2016, 08:32:23 AM
Guitar runs thru pedals on board then into amp selector. Then just follow diagram above.

All preset switching done by GCX ground control Pro.

Preamp choice by Voodoo Labs Amp Selector.

Power amps by dual A/B box.

True Stereo path.

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on June 28, 2016, 08:34:20 AM
I like the Analog Chorus, and I struggle with wanting to keep it turned on. It's always a internal discussion of weather I like my tone with it always on or off!

I hear you! I run a chorus on about 90% of the time. It adds a "fullness" to the tone that I really like.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 28, 2016, 08:35:30 AM
Wow so 4 different preamp going into 4 different fx units. Any reason why 4 preamps? And 4 fx units?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on June 28, 2016, 08:39:06 AM
I hear you! I run a chorus on about 90% of the time. It adds a "fullness" to the tone that I really like.

Agreed, when I'm jamming with the guys I'm usually the only guitar player so a chorus helps me get a wider sound.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Griphook on June 28, 2016, 08:45:38 AM
Chorus is Love! Chorus is Life  ;D
Along with a bit of Phasing and maybe a bit shimmer-Reverb. Coming after the ADAs Sound. Just gorgeous.

This is some Huge Rack, Soloist. I agree with MJMP, especially why 4 different FX-Units?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on June 28, 2016, 08:48:32 AM
Chorus is Love! Chorus is Life  ;D
Along with a bit of Phasing and maybe a bit shimmer-Reverb. Coming after the ADAs Sound. Just gorgeous.

I really like a nice, slow phase. If the Strymon Lex wasn't so damn expensive I'd have one of those on my board too, those slow, distorted Leslie sounds are eerie and I love them!

I've been looking into the A/DA PBF flanger to add to my board as well.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on June 28, 2016, 08:53:27 AM
Wow so 4 different preamp going into 4 different fx units. Any reason why 4 preamps? And 4 fx units?

Well the Piranha might be sold soon so it would then be 3 pres. MP2 has the best cleans, I use the MP1 for 80's covers like Firehouse, Thunder and Skid Row. The Marshall is for more of a Judas Priest type tone, some early Def Leppard stuff.
Once the piranha and intellifex go I plan on getting a patchmate or GCX guitar audio switcher so I can run any fx with any pre. Limitation of the ground control pro is that it can only control up to 8 units.
I like the pitch shifting and reverb on the Lexicon, love the 8 voice chorus on the intellifex. Quadraverb is used for delay only. G major 2 sounds best with the Marshall, not too bad with the ADA's.
The main reason is because I am  a gear junkie! :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on June 28, 2016, 09:02:24 AM
When I get a G-Force I can eliminate a couple fx units.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 28, 2016, 09:03:25 AM
I think the new patchmate's are mono (correct me if I'm wrong) so you'll need to find the old model.

BTW I think we are all gear junkie's here.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on June 28, 2016, 09:06:53 AM
The older Rocktron stuff is better anyways. Made right here in Michigan. Now there new stuff is made in China and the quality took a few steps back.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 28, 2016, 09:08:30 AM
Well I also have a G-force and in the beginning I used it for everything but with the addition of several ADA racks I now only use for reverbs.
For delays I use the ADA Digitizer 4,it has an amazing delay, almost as good as the TC2290.
For chorus I use the TFX-4 (all analog) and ADA STD-1 (all analog)
For flanging the ADA TFX-4 and the ADA 2FX
For pitch the ADA pitchraq
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 28, 2016, 09:09:48 AM
The older Rocktron stuff is better anyways. Made right here in Michigan. Now there new stuff is made in China and the quality took a few steps back.

I think that goes for a lot of gear, quality has declined a lot.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on June 28, 2016, 11:55:48 AM
MJMP, do you "daisy chain" your processors or is your signal path routed a different way?
Also do you use the fx loop or just place them after the pre?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 28, 2016, 02:26:37 PM
Well I also have the old rocktron patchmate and each effect goes to a loop in the patchmate.
So my signal chain is like this;
Guitar to Dunlop rack wah to Decimator CH1 in,out is split into 2 mono signals,one goes to the MP-1 in,the other to the MP-2 in.
MP-1 out goes to Decimator Ch2 in ,out (dual mono)goes to the return of loop 1 of the patchmate
MP-2 stereo out to return of loop2.So I don't use the sends of the patchmate because you get too much noise and groundloops this way.
The rest of the effects (except the G force) are in the different loops using the send and return.
Then out of the patchmate goes to the G force stereo in because I also use the G force as a master volume controller  and for muting.Stereo out to my 2 marshall heads into 4 4x12 cabs.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 29, 2016, 06:03:51 AM
That's a nice compact rig. I've seen those pedal boards around, but they wouldn't really work for my MIDI controllers, except for my MXC, Quad Pedal and CCP.

   Cool stuff :thumb-up:

        Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on July 04, 2016, 12:23:16 AM
Since I had the week off, from work and band I re-worked my rig, A couple reasons, 1 I felt the rack wasn't running as cool as I wanted it to. 2 I wanted to eliminate a few pieces that I didn't need. 3 Of course, wanted to improve my tone! This what I ended up with, its sounds a bit richer and fuller, more dynamic and throws off a lot less heat. :whoohoo!: I did keep the 50/50 in there for a back up.


Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 04, 2016, 09:08:26 AM
Looking good Soloist  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on July 05, 2016, 01:46:40 PM
Looking good Soloist  :thumb-up:

+1 :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on July 09, 2016, 12:57:10 PM
DANG. That's a lot of stuff. Looks very tidy though.

You & Harley must drive semi trucks
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on July 11, 2016, 03:33:30 PM
Out with the old, in with the new!  :thumb-up:

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on July 11, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
Cool, which one is that?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on July 11, 2016, 03:54:09 PM
If you're asking me, I swapped out the stock block on my Pacer Vintage for a Brass "L" sustain block from FU-Tone, as well as replaced one of the springs with a high tension model.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on July 11, 2016, 04:17:58 PM
Does this do a lot to the sound?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on July 11, 2016, 07:09:39 PM
This is the second guitar I’ve put the high tension springs in. I play with .11’s so I’m used to adjusting the springs when I swap out from the .10’s that usually come on them. The springs on my HM Strat were worn out when I got it, I had the claw screwed all the way in and my trem was still lifting pretty bad, so I replaced all three springs with high tension springs from FU-Tone and they fixed the issue.

I initially replaced all three of the springs on my Pacer, but decided to just use one of them.

This is the first Brass Block I’ve bought (I’ve not seen a replacement block for a Kahler Spyder or the Strat would have one too), the stock block was 32mm, but the new one is 42mm. Some will have you believe that a new block will allow your guitar to sustain until the end of time, but I wouldn't bet on it being that good! It does add some sustain, as well as warmth to the sound, especially when playing clean. It's not as noticeable as some would have you believe, but it's a decent upgrade to the guitar.

I’ll have to play on it for a few more days before I make a final verdict, but as of right now, I’m satisfied.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on July 12, 2016, 03:23:26 AM
Ah ok, thanks !
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on July 12, 2016, 04:30:48 AM
I'm sure that also has something to do with the pickups and the guitar composition too. The woods have an effect on tone and sustain as well.

 My 1980 STRAT already has a brass block from the factory, and the bridge and saddles are brass also. There is a big difference in tone from the other Stratocasters.

      Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on July 12, 2016, 10:54:54 AM
I have found the cleans get warmer with a big brass block from FU as well. :thumb-up:

Which reminds me that I have one guitar without that upgrade...
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on July 12, 2016, 11:25:04 AM

Which reminds me that I have one guitar without that upgrade...

I sense a purchase in your future.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Kim on July 12, 2016, 03:56:36 PM
I got my Temolo Stoppers (http://www.fu-tone.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=70&products_id=215) from FU Tone.  I already have blocks that I made from O-1 Tool Steel in my guitars though, otherwise I'd get some brass ones from there.

 I tell ya, that site should have a Drool Rating.   :bow:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on July 12, 2016, 07:12:00 PM
 Don't tell the missus, but I just scored an MP-2!  :whoohoo!:

The A/DA rig is growing...
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on July 12, 2016, 09:39:48 PM
Don't tell the missus, but I just scored an MP-2!  :whoohoo!:

The A/DA rig is growing...

OOOHHH! you have that problem too! :lol:
Good score on the MP2! I got mine a few months ago without someone knowing either.  :nono:

Now if I could just find an MP1 Classic.......... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on July 12, 2016, 10:16:53 PM

OOOHHH! you have that problem too! :lol:
Good score on the MP2! I got mine a few months ago without someone knowing either.  :nono:

Now if I could just find an MP1 Classic.......... :facepalm:


Yeah, I've done pretty well in the A/DA purchases so far. I was able to score the MP-2 for less than I paid for my MP-1 which, judging by prices elsewhere I didn't think would ever happen!

I'd love to have a classic, just to round out the fleet, but it seems like everytime they go up for sale the seller wants a decent chunk of change for it. Since I'm not necessarily "needing" an MP-1 Classic, I won't go that high.

Hell, I didn't need the MP-2, but I couldn't beat the price.  :lol:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on July 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Ha! I didn't need mine either. It was a combo of I wanted it and the price was right. Been looking at Classics but the one I found the guy wants waaayyyy to much for it. So the the hunt moves on! :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on July 12, 2016, 10:52:24 PM
Ha! I didn't need mine either. It was a combo of I wanted it and the price was right. Been looking at Classics but the one I found the guy wants waaayyyy to much for it. So the the hunt moves on! :thumb-up:

My best friend just sold off his guitar rig so he could go back to playing bass, I tried to get him to grab an MB-1 but he doesnt share the love for old rack gear that we do here. Oh well...  :poop:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Peter H. Boer on July 12, 2016, 11:25:18 PM
My best friend just sold off his guitar rig so he could go back to playing bass, I tried to get him to grab an MB-1 but he doesnt share the love for old rack gear that we do here. Oh well...  :poop:

His loss  O:-)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 12, 2016, 11:42:23 PM
Go PS91  :thumb-up: , enjoy the MP2, a very different beast to the MP1  >:D .  What sort of condition is it in ? and what EPROM revision ? v1.41 was the latest and has faster patch change (selectable in MIDI options).  Did you get any pedals with it ? The MP2 accepts CC commands, probably the most useful is the stereo master volume and is the only way to access this feature.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 12, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
My best friend just sold off his guitar rig so he could go back to playing bass, I tried to get him to grab an MB-1 but he doesnt share the love for old rack gear that we do here. Oh well...  :poop:

His loss  O:-)
+1  :thumb-up: , MB1s are awesome (not that I needed too much convincing LoL)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on July 13, 2016, 05:10:36 AM
Good to go Primal,

    IF you can get your hands on the MXC Midi controller, a Quad Switch and a CCP pedal, you'll be able to open up the RTM functions in the MP-2.
    I disagree with Richard on the volume pedal function though, I wasn't very impressed with that function with the CCP, it works great with the Wah function though. I prefer to use a dedicated volume pedal with mine. The results are much smoother.

    @ Soloist: If you are talking about the one on ebay, I don't think that guy really wants to sell it. $500 + shipping is way too much for that.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on July 13, 2016, 07:44:53 AM
@ Harley  that wasn't the one. I found one for $400 + shipping. Still too much :(
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: PrimalScream91 on July 13, 2016, 01:13:50 PM
@ Harley  that wasn't the one. I found one for $400 + shipping. Still too much :(

There is one on Reverb for $296 with almost $50 shipping.

At $160 I guess I got a good deal on mine!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on July 13, 2016, 01:43:25 PM
@ Harley  that wasn't the one. I found one for $400 + shipping. Still too much :(

There is one on Reverb for $296 with almost $50 shipping.

At $160 I guess I got a good deal on mine!

   Even that is still a bit steep
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on July 13, 2016, 11:34:06 PM
In good condition with pedal set $500 AUD is (IMO) a fair price for MP2, so $160 USD (no pedals) is a good deal.  So while at $296USD = ~ $400 AUD is not a steal, it's still an ok price.  These were $2.5k AUD in their day. Shipping is always a killer though, particularly to Australia  :facepalm: .  Also you can't get transformers for them so one of mine is US voltage and I have to use a step down transformer with it, not ideal...

Hey Harley, I use the vol pedal all the time, I've never used it for wah, it's a bit stiff for that but for master vol I find it perfect.  Also it's attenuating (stereo) master vol, not input vol like standard vol pedals.
Now I'm mucking around with MB1s I really miss having the vol pedal.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on August 14, 2016, 01:44:59 PM
Uh...I think this is the place for rig pix

Notice: I put the MP-2 in my big rack, for the big cabinet. The Classic is going to be paired with my Marshall 1x12 combo
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chucky on August 30, 2016, 09:20:28 AM
Uh...I think this is the place for rig pix
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on November 01, 2016, 10:54:55 PM
Updated rig pic with the G-Force in there....
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 02, 2016, 05:44:05 AM
How many units is that rack, looks really big ! How do you transport something like that?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on November 02, 2016, 08:59:17 AM
How many units is that rack, looks really big ! How do you transport something like that?

With a dolly, because you won't have any friends to help you carry that thing!  :lol:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on November 02, 2016, 09:45:18 AM
I use 15 out of the 21 slots in that Grundorf rack.
It's on some heavy duty casters and rolls like a dream. We have a cube van with an electric lift gate for transporting our gear around, so no lifting involved!

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 02, 2016, 01:21:02 PM
Wow great, I thought my 16U rack was big.

So I see you use a lot of fx and preamps, what's your favorite one?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on November 02, 2016, 10:03:12 PM
My ADA MP1 is my favorite preamp. Nothing else sounds like an MP1!
I haven't spent enough time with the G-Force yet (still setting up patches for it).
Each fx unit has it's areas where it shines, but overall so far the G Major 2 has the best all around fx without over coloring my tone.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 03, 2016, 05:13:39 AM
What do you use to switch it all,or is it going to a mixer?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on November 03, 2016, 07:39:53 AM
All the preamps run into a line mixer in the rack. Preamps are selected by a Voodo Lab amp selector on my pedal board. All fx switching is done by my Voodo Lab ground control pro. It's the simplest setup I found for running all this gear.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 03, 2016, 03:16:32 PM
So it's all manual switching?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on November 03, 2016, 09:32:09 PM
Yes (sort of) you manually stomp 2 buttons; you select which preamp or preamps, then use the GCP to select patches via midi. Patches include the preamp patch and multi fx patches and or bypasses. Here is what my pedalboard looks like
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 04, 2016, 05:14:06 AM
Do you mean a GCX?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Soloist on November 04, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
No, no GCX in my rack.
1 fx unit is in the MP2 fx loop only. Another fx unit is in the mixer fx loop and the last unit is after the mixer. This way all my cleans use the MP2 and Lexicon, then I can step on the amp selector to change from cleans to dirty tone using MP1, JMP1 or GSP1101 with my tc electronics fx.
1 patch but 2 different tones.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 04, 2016, 12:50:45 PM
Ah ok, so all your fx are either in a loop of a preamp or in the signal path? So no looper.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Slimjim on November 05, 2016, 04:31:26 AM
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/Eventual420/Mobile%20Uploads/20161027_174419_zpsvhlw345q.jpg) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Eventual420/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20161027_174419_zpsvhlw345q.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: GuitarBuilder on November 05, 2016, 04:56:48 PM
Wow!  Nice rack!  :banana-rasta: :banana-rasta:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 05, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
+1  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 07, 2016, 08:12:10 PM
+2  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 08, 2016, 01:19:24 AM
a little update
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Chamaimeow/IMG_0417_zpsd79sidgl.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/Chamaimeow/media/IMG_0417_zpsd79sidgl.jpg.html)


just wondering, does the mp1 fit in a skb or gator shallow rack? i wanna put it on top my jcm 800.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Griphook on November 08, 2016, 02:18:38 AM
Nice Gear  :thumb-up:


According to the Manual, a MP-1 has a depth about 269mm
According to this: https://www.skbcases.com/music/products/prodlist.php?c=114&s=80 an SKB-Shallow-Rack has a depth of 271,8 mm

I do not think, this will fit very well :/
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on November 08, 2016, 05:44:21 AM
Hey Chamai, nice gear  :thumb-up: .  The older (and now not easy to find) SKB ATA racks are in between the new shallow and deep racks at 40.98 cm (15.94") and are just right for ADA preamps (MP2 26.67 cm (10.5"), MP1 is about the same.  The deep racks are way too deep, and there's not allot of wriggle room in a shallow rack. You need to check both the front to back depth (rail to rail) and also how much additional room is in the lids (for cables etc). Gator had a 36.2 cm (14.25") when I looked a while ago (but don't get one with the locking front back lids, they are a real pain to put on/off  :facepalm: ).  The new SKB Roto racks (look like nice racks) are either shallow 27.18 cm (10.7") or deep 44.7 cm (17.6").
So MP1 with jacks is about 33.7cm (neutrix jack ~70mm (bit that pokes out)), or if you use right angle jacks 28.6 cm (~20mm pokes out)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on November 08, 2016, 12:18:22 PM
I use the SKB Roto racks, they're shallow (a flat removable panel on the back) but ADA Gear does fit. My midi cables needed right angles, but that's it.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 08, 2016, 10:09:04 PM
thanks guys. man, rack cases are so expensive new, going to find myself a used one.

off topic. just plugged my mp1 into the low input of my jcm 800 for the first time.

holy shit, it sounds amazing. its great i can use the controls on the jcm 800  to shape my tone even more
/
i hope i am doing this right. flip the switch towards the front panel for instrument level right?

it sounds insane.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 09, 2016, 02:16:26 PM
yes that should be correct but else on the back of the mp-1 is a small pic of the switch setting.(only V1 mp-1's)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 09, 2016, 11:33:29 PM
yes that should be correct but else on the back of the mp-1 is a small pic of the switch setting.(only V1 mp-1's)

thanks

it seems i have to turn the volume/output knob to around 2 o clock on the ADA to get the full signal.

i also tried using the send output on the ADA to the JCM 800 and it works

is there a difference?

i don't have to crank the output on the ada if i am using fx send instead of output A, but the jcm 800 pre amp gain must be on 10 to get full signal or it sounds buzzy.

Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 10, 2016, 06:06:11 AM
Well the send will not have the chorus signal.

Now if you don't have enough signal then you can switch the ADA to line so it will output more signal.

About the JCM800,there is a small brown 1000pF cap on the preamp vol pot, you can cut it off so it won't sound buzzy at lower settings.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on November 10, 2016, 10:19:26 PM
Well the send will not have the chorus signal.

Now if you don't have enough signal then you can switch the ADA to line so it will output more signal.

About the JCM800,there is a small brown 1000pF cap on the preamp vol pot, you can cut it off so it won't sound buzzy at lower settings.

thanks

not gonna touch anything on the 800.

but man, it sounds mean.

i wish marshall has a power amp that uses the same everything as the jcm 800.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on November 11, 2016, 03:07:36 AM
Well the Marshall 9005 rack power amp comes very close.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Kim on November 25, 2016, 02:25:33 PM
A couple people have asked about my Rig Setups, so I thought it'd be neat to actually make a diagram/schematic of sorts about how my stuff is hooked up.  Fun!  I haven't done that Windows Paint thing in quite some time.  lol
EDIT:  Changed quite a few things since this original post, so I made a new diagram for about the 4-5th time.   :lol:  However, since Photobucket are complete bastards I'll just have to attach it to this post. 

Rig of Fire

Bottom 4x12 cab is guitar, top 4x12 cab is Mellotron/organ section.
Bottom cab features Celestion Vintage 30 speakers and is Mono from the Peavey Classic 120 tube poweramp. Top cab features a pair of EHX VR and a pair of B-52 AT1216 speakers from the Crate Powerblock (bridged to Mono).

ADA MP-2 preamp and Rocktron Xpression fx unit are currently connected in Parallel via the Effects Loop. 

Guitar signal first goes to the D'addario tuner and also functions as a Master Kill switch.  The EHX Mel9 and C9 fx are always On.   The wah is switchless; step on for On step off for Off.  The Vox volume pedal controls the  overall Output of the EHX "9" effects from "Off" to full volume and wherever I may want it in between.  This allows that Mellotron and Organ effect to be separate from the guitar; Guitar only, Effect only, or both guitar and Mellotron/Organ effect simultaneously.  The EHX Soul Food only affects the output from the C9 and this allows me to have the option of giving the organ effect that cool overdriven organ sound like Jon Lord.  The Saturnworks A/B with 2 Inputs and one Output switches between the Mel9 and the C9 and determines which of those 2 signals go through.  The Crate Powerblock is compact, and definitely affordable so it works good here.  I may replace it with a rack amplifier later on though; this diagram subject to change (as it already has several times since this original post).

I used to run a 2-cab split Stereo setup, then later a special wired cab for that but I felt it was too complicated for quick stage/gig setups and changeovers so everything is back to Mono. 
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on November 25, 2016, 05:49:15 PM
Cool setup Kimmer  :thumb-up:

I really like those Mel9 pedals....trying to decide if I want that or the Key9
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: bunkyloo on April 28, 2018, 02:55:53 PM
That is an interesting setup bet it sounds great with the cabinets wired like that
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on April 30, 2018, 03:34:42 AM
Go Kim, nice setup  :thumb-up: maybe put a copy in the new routing and patching  :dunno:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: assquatch20 on January 24, 2020, 12:16:33 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49406945556_f70da9ee3f_k.jpg)

This is the w/d/w array as I'm enjoying it lately. Unfortunately I don't live alone anymore and don't have the room to spread it out. It's a friend's pedalboard (just using a couple overdrives)>my Blackstar HT-5 ("metal" version) which heads into the 4x12 and has its parallel loop's effects send>my stereo tremolo and delay>a Peavey 50/50>the split stack.

The tremolo is a GigFX Pro Chop. It can do square waves, sine waves, or both at matched or separate rates, with MIDI clock abilities that I think allow the treadle to control note division instead of speed. The sine waves in stereo are very vibe/Leslie sounding. These are no longer made but there does happen to be a regular Chopper (no MIDI) on Reverb right now.

The delay is an Empress Echosystem which has some nice chorus, flanger, reverb, vibrato and such onboard as well. Empress takes votes from the registered owners to determine what features will be in the firmware updates. It also has a looper and a freeze function.

The Echosystem's also got two chips on it and the option to run a single delay, or two in parallel, two in series, or split L+R. I run a ping pong delay and chorus, or a huge reverb and flanger/delay... some cool options on that thing. It has a cab sim onboard, so I could run the outs straight to the board and have my wet channels in the PA, thus only needing to bring one amp and speaker.

I've got an ADA T100S power amp there as well but it might need some TLC. My amp tech buddy lost the screws for the ear on one side and couldn't find an issue with the power supply, but both sides of the amp have equally low output. I'll get it sorted eventually.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49387173412_7afd3cd06d_b.jpg)

Here it is using a 2x6L6 Artist 15 combo as the dry amp instead. I like the amp, but I maybe should've gotten their HT-20 with the higher gain.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49387149462_0d6fc1bf24_k.jpg)

And the tower of power with my Kramer-Johnson partscaster, just for fun. Don't mind the weird fret, it was a panoramic glitch.

I need to fill out my own pedalboard and make a cable snake, get a rack case, power conditioner, MP-1, maybe leave room inside for my little 5w as the preamp and slave the Peavey to it in bridged mono or something, using the T100S for the wet channels. It'd be cooler to have the T100S's EL34's in the center with the Peavey's EL84's flanking but I can't bridge the ADA power amp or run just one side. If I had an ABY and another split stack for the center though... A combo or head+cab of some sort in the center would be simpler. Regardless, I'm not hauling this stuff to many a gig, if any.

I know it's not as impressive as the racks some of y'all have but it's a start, and a neat amalgamation of traditional cabinet design along with rackmount stuff, plus it's tube, solid state, and digital all playing together. I'm preaching to the choir though.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on January 24, 2020, 07:17:12 PM
Nice  :thumb-up: :whoohoo!:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on January 25, 2020, 04:54:49 PM
I love it, but I don't wanna carry it ;)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: assquatch20 on January 25, 2020, 07:31:09 PM
Nice  :thumb-up: :whoohoo!:

Thank you. Surely that wasn't actually your 5000th post?

I love it, but I don't wanna carry it ;)

I haven't had a functioning setup like this in a long time but I've already blown off a couple opportunities to take it out just due to the weight. It's a behemoth. You got me curious though so I did some math. All the amps and cabs pictured there weigh around 370lbs/168kg total. For my gigs I just take the mono board and go straight into the combo amp, reverb and maybe a little delay here and there. Not super heavy. The amp is kinda large but I can carry the whole rig in one trip from the vehicle to the stage if needed.

For a w/d/w gig I'd probably take the combo (~40lbs), the 50/50 (~30lbs), and the split stack (~96lbs) for a grand total of 166lbs, which is like a super middleweight boxer. Since we're throwing stuff in the back of the truck now, may as well get the 4x12 (~90lbs) and make it a heavyweight boxer at 256lbs total. I don't like the combo's speaker anyhow.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Kim on January 26, 2020, 08:18:33 AM
Go Kim, nice setup  :thumb-up: maybe put a copy in the new routing and patching 

It changes too often to do that!   :lol:

I haven't had a functioning setup like this in a long time but I've already blown off a couple opportunities to take it out just due to the weight. It's a behemoth....

Cool rig!  In my case, the weight isn't necessarily the problem.  It's mostly the setup/teardown time involved with running all the cables:  We always have to get our stuff onstage and running quick, and then get it back offstage even quicker after playing.  The more items of gear to move, the worse it is.  We chose to put as much gear as possible into one big rack. Yes, it takes 2 people to lift it (one person can roll it along on its wheels though), but then all the amps are taken offstage in just one move and done.  Cabs move/roll quick enough by themselves.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on January 26, 2020, 06:18:27 PM
(Thank you. Surely that wasn't actually your 5000th post?) ::) I hadn't noticed, but yes it was my 5000th post. MJMP has 3492 it seems. (http://adadepot.com/index.php?action=stats)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Dante on February 01, 2020, 08:52:00 AM
I love it, but I don't wanna carry it ;)

I don't like the combo's speaker anyhow.

I find that in a LOT of combos. Only two that I do like (so far) are my ol' Boogie DC-5 (gone now-too heavy), and my Viper. The Viper can get very low, like a bigger cab, which really fills a room when you have a hard-hitting drummer. TBH, I haven't used the Viper much lately because I have to hit one extra button to change the amp channel - my other amps change with the patch change in my multi FX. The Viper can't do that...grrrr...

So, I'm gigging with my mini-heads and their adjoining speaker cabs. I have a Carvin V3 with a Carvin 2x12 slant cab, and a Peavey Classic 20 mini head with it's matching 1x12 cab. It's a big cab for a 1x12, but very lightweight. Currently, I'm using a BOSS MS3 to control the amps and FX and switch loops in/out. It's small, lightweight and built like a BOSS pedal.

Here are pix for posterity, like I always say, wait ten minutes...it'll change.

The beer bottle is to show you how small the Peavey head is. The pedalboard from left to right; Line6 G50 Wireless | Boss FS7 for Bank up/down | Boss MS3 Multi Switcher and FX | Pitch Fork Harmonizer | Boss Wah/Univibe | Home made Solo button. The MojoMojo pedal is my 'classic rock' tone when I use the two channel Peavey. I don't use it at all with the 3-channel Carvin.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Damn-Danny on February 03, 2020, 02:11:50 AM
Here a picture of my Rig
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on February 03, 2020, 03:40:37 PM
Hey Danny, I see you got the ampulator?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 04, 2020, 11:21:18 PM
Hey Danny, nice  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Damn-Danny on December 07, 2021, 03:35:29 AM
Yess bought it from someone on Marktplaats in the Netherlands, but I don't really use it.
Got an ADA GCS-6, a Mooer Radar.
In Logic X I use Wall of Sound by Two Notes.
Consider to sell it.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Damn-Danny on December 07, 2021, 03:43:59 AM
Photo of rig I use now.
Use Bugera 333 XL inf. with 2 Shu guang 6L6 power tubes as power amp.
Pedals are a Pro Tone Gary Holt signature boost, Boss OD 2, TC Electronic Sentry.
Using 2 preamps the 3tm mp1 and a Yerasov Detonater P.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on December 07, 2021, 01:02:47 PM
Nice rig  :thumb-up:

      If you do consider selling the GCS-6, let me know. That would be the model I would buy.

Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 15, 2022, 12:38:56 AM
Its been awhile my friends. Had some personal bullshit I had to deal with for awhile. Finally got two 4x12 marshall cabs. Now I'm just missing a switching system and a head switcher with a built in load.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 15, 2022, 03:59:09 AM
Hey Chamai, good to hear from you, hope all is good now  :wave: . Nice rig  :whoohoo!: and the Gretsch looks very nice  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on February 15, 2022, 12:30:56 PM
SWEET!
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: MarshallJMP on February 15, 2022, 01:08:10 PM
Hey Chamai, good to hear from you, hope all is good now  :wave: . Nice rig  :whoohoo!: and the Gretsch looks very nice  :thumb-up:

+1 :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Shibiwan on February 15, 2022, 01:22:35 PM
Here's my home office/mess of cables.

(https://i.imgur.com/6RrOgju.png)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 16, 2022, 12:14:22 AM
Hey Chamai, good to hear from you, hope all is good now  :wave: . Nice rig  :whoohoo!: and the Gretsch looks very nice  :thumb-up:

Hey! Fun fact. I just caught covid
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 16, 2022, 12:17:48 AM
Hey Chamai, good to hear from you, hope all is good now  :wave: . Nice rig  :whoohoo!: and the Gretsch looks very nice  :thumb-up:

+1 :thumb-up:

How are you sir?
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 16, 2022, 03:21:18 AM
Here's my home office/mess of cables.
Hey Shib, it's not that bad, nice setup  :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 16, 2022, 03:24:40 AM
Hey Chamai, I'm doing ok, thanks  ::) .  Bummer you caught COVID, how are you feeling??  I've avoided it so far, working from home and I don't go out much (and then carefully)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on February 16, 2022, 12:39:02 PM
Hey! Fun fact. I just caught covid


Well that sucks the big salami ???
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Harley Hexxe on February 16, 2022, 12:41:39 PM
Here's my home office/mess of cables.


   I've seen worse, mainly in my own studio! :facepalm: I feel your pain

Harley 8)
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 16, 2022, 04:11:41 PM
Hey Chamai, I'm doing ok, thanks  ::) .  Bummer you caught COVID, how are you feeling??  I've avoided it so far, working from home and I don't go out much (and then carefully)
I feel not too bad actually. Was a little dizzy and tired in the morning. My daughter brought it back from her school. Its a shit show here. Everyone is getting sick and we can't even get tests anymore. We have to use those ahitty tests kits which may not be the most accurate
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Shibiwan on February 16, 2022, 11:53:04 PM

Hey! Fun fact. I just caught covid

Sorry to hear that. The good thing is now you're back.
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: rnolan on February 17, 2022, 12:10:21 AM
Hey Chamai, I'm doing ok, thanks  ::) .  Bummer you caught COVID, how are you feeling??  I've avoided it so far, working from home and I don't go out much (and then carefully)
I feel not too bad actually. Was a little dizzy and tired in the morning. My daughter brought it back from her school. Its a shit show here. Everyone is getting sick and we can't even get tests anymore. We have to use those ahitty tests kits which may not be the most accurate
Hope you all get better soon, news reports say we are over the omicron peak here, mmm then why are the nurses having to strike to get heard.  What's worse is some of it could have been preempted and, while not totally avoidable, handled way better.  Anyway, glad you are back with us my friend  :whoohoo!: .
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 17, 2022, 11:53:36 PM

Hey! Fun fact. I just caught covid

Sorry to hear that. The good thing is now you're back.

Thank you, its nice I get to work at home now. Get to sleep for an extra 40 minutes
Title: Re: Rig Pix
Post by: Chamai on February 18, 2022, 12:49:13 AM
Hey Chamai, I'm doing ok, thanks  ::) .  Bummer you caught COVID, how are you feeling??  I've avoided it so far, working from home and I don't go out much (and then carefully)
I feel not too bad actually. Was a little dizzy and tired in the morning. My daughter brought it back from her school. Its a shit show here. Everyone is getting sick and we can't even get tests anymore. We have to use those ahitty tests kits which may not be the most accurate
Hope you all get better soon, news reports say we are over the omicron peak here, mmm then why are the nurses having to strike to get heard.  What's worse is some of it could have been preempted and, while not totally avoidable, handled way better.  Anyway, glad you are back with us my friend  :whoohoo!: .
Its a shit show here rnolan, they are lifting all restrictions. Kids are getting sick. My colleagues are getting sick. I guess they can't let the economy tank.