NPD!

[Soloist]

I picked up a Digitech Drop pedal today.....WOW this thing rocks! No more having to take a bunch of axes to a gig for different tuning set ups. I can now take 1 axe and a back up and that's it. Plus no more spending hours to down tune a Floyd rose. I hear NO artifacts in the tone. Very impressed to say the least! :thumb-up:

[MarshallJMP]

Looks nice just checked it out on YT. :thumb-up:

[Dante]

That thing would be WAAAY handy for practicing cover tunes. Lots of (old) bands tuned down a half step.

[Soloist]

That thing would be WAAAY handy for practicing cover tunes. Lots of (old) bands tuned down a half step.

Exactly what I was thinking!
The only issue I have found is when it's engaged I notice a 1 - 2 dB volume level drop, but that's a minor fix.

[El Chiguete]

Yep I've thought on getting one for covers too.

[Soloist]

ok so after monkeying around with this thing for a while I noticed some settings are too muddy. :facepalm:
I guess I will have to create different patches on my pre's and cut out a lot of bass to make this sound the way it was intended to, or at least the way I want it to. What a pain in the a$$!

[MarshallJMP]

I think this is a bit normal,if you lower the pitch you will get lower freq's so more bass freq's.

[Soloist]

I agree, however if I use a guitar with dropped tuning w/o the pedal it's not as muddy :dunno:

[rnolan]

Well that's partly coz it's real and not a digitised sample fed through an algorithm on a small(ish) backplane bus. The processing required and backplane width (>128bit (not 32 or 64bit)) to lower/raise the pitch in real time and still sound reasonable is not trivial, if you combine it with the direct signal it's kind of usable, sounds like an effect (which in some ways it is), but if you "replace" the signal with the changed pitch, that's a whole new story. There's this whole misnomer thinking once it's digital you can do what you like to it and all will be fine  :banana: dsp rules (not), it's crap, yes you can do lots of things (with "varying" quality), and it has its place, but apart from all that, you have a frequency/vibration under your finger which is now different to the output.... not good IMHO.

Not trying to poo poo the idea, and great tool for working out songs etc and special FXs but if you need guitars in different tunings, then set them up like that and use them. I understand the convenience factor, but you'd need to spend allot of $s to get something to digitise the signal and change pitch and still sound good/real.

[El Chiguete]

I agree, however if I use a guitar with dropped tuning w/o the pedal it's not as muddy :dunno:

How much lower are you going? 1 full step? 2? 3???

[Soloist]

It sounds good when only going down 1/2 and whole step. Anything lower is when it gets muddy. So I guess I can use it for those 2 tunings and bring another guitar tuned for anything lower. It still blows away any other detuner I have ever tried. Most other detuners are single note, that's their limitation. This one does multiple notes/chords (polyphonic) which is what I want.

[MarshallJMP]

Is it such a big difference the pedal vs real detuning?

[Soloist]

Is it such a big difference the pedal vs real detuning?

Unfortunately yes. With real drop tuning I can use the same amp presets unless you go crazy and detune a whole octave or something. For just a half or whole step not much difference. Not enough that any of the drunks in the bar would notice anyways. :lol:

[MarshallJMP]

Mmm strange  :???:

[Soloist]

Mmm strange  :???:

My response as well!
Today I will take one of my presets copy it to new location. Drop the bass out completely. Engage the pedal and tweak until satisfied.