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Non ADA Gear => Effects => Topic started by: El Chiguete on August 17, 2014, 10:00:37 PM
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So who here uses your wah before your MP-1/2/Classic?
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Hey El, GB (George) used his Dunlop rack wah before his MP1, I think MJMP does as well (IIRC). I use the auto wah in my MP2, I wouldn't mind getting another CC pedal for my MXC and assigning it to wah, I only have one so it's assigned to master volume (which I use all the time).
The main consideration I spose (apart from gain structure issues) is, do you distort the wah signal (wah before preamp) or wah the distorted signal (loop). As most wah units are designed to be before the preamp/amp, they are generally instrument level devices and work better up front.
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I have a dunlop rack wah (DCR-2SR),but i also have the dunlop 535Q (the 18V version),a dunlop dimebag sig and an old boss
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I always use them in front of the preamp or distortion.
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With my rack or any other amp I've had I've always put the wah in front. How else would it be done, in the loop?
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I have a dunlop rack wah (DCR-2SR),but i also have the dunlop 535Q (the 18V version),a dunlop dimebag sig and an old boss
FW-3.
I always use them in front of the preamp or distortion.
So besides that they all sound different would you say one works better than the other with the MP-1?
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The best one is the rack wah,because of all the possibility's you have.
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With my rack or any other amp I've had I've always put the wah in front. How else would it be done, in the loop?
You could use it in the loop, like previous posts, depends what you want to do; distort the wah, or wah the distort sig, although I agree, wah is usually before the preamp. As with MP2, guit > comp > wah filter > tube preamp > etc (see page 2 of manual). I've not tried it (wah) on distorted signal (compared to in front), try it both ways and go with what sounds best.
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I ran my ol' classic wah in front of my MP1, and MP2. I also ran my V-Wah in front of my amp's distortion with my Boogie.
Now, I use the Wah in my rack FX (Boss GX-700) through the FX loop, controlled by the MXC CC pedal.
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So running it in front of main gain stage (preamp) seems to be winning here :-*
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I think most players use it in front of the preamp or distortion.
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I think most players use it in front of the preamp or distortion.
Yes thats what I think but sometimes here the guys don't like anything in front... just wanting to check!
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I prefer (and have) nothing in front (much better tone and gain structure), fortuitously the MP2 has the Wah before the tubes ;) , Although I don't use it much and if it wasn't there I probably wouldn't worry about having Wah. I have one patch with auto (triggered) wah, IIRC it was for a song from previous band set list.
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My rule is go in front. That way you can vary the mp1 amp gain to keep it clean or super saturated. If you run it after amp gain, you will get a dramatic wah effect no matter what. Though that could be your cup of tea.
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So would running a wah in the effects loop give it the super quacky sound like putting it after a distortion pedal?
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Seeing as the amp itself compresses the signal when enough gain is applied, any dramatic eq curves that the wah pedal generates gets flattened out when placed in that manner. Ultimately, I would experiment with both. If shredding is a must, throw it before for more note evenness throughout the wah's range. If you want to play more rhythmically, the loop gives you that quack at any gain setting, though this setup is very uncommon in my experience.
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Running in the loop would be like running after a distortion pedal (all be it the MP1 input is much better >:D ). It will work either before or after gain stage, but will sound different. And as most wah units are instrument level, the gain structure is better if it's before the input. The MP1 loop level adjusts between instrument and line level, but as the loop is serial, this mean you've dropped the signal from line level to instrument level and then boost back again to line level on the loop return (not ideal gain structure IMHO).
But give it a try and let us know the results :thumb-up: It might be just the sound your after ?
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No I like it before in the chain I wad just remembering that some people said they didnt wanted anything infront of the amp and I wanted to know if this included the wah because for me it didnt made sense.
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I run it in front of the pre for the typical wah effects. If I'm looking to use the wah as a full-time filter on the distorted tones, I will place it in the loop.
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I run my wah in front of everything (which forces me to run two extra cables out to the front of the stage - just for the wah :hair-out: )
I stopped using my GX-700 for a wah because it really only had one good voice. My Boss V-Wah (http://www.bossus.com/products/pw-10/) has a lot more flexibility and is just plain easier to use. Oh yeah, and I got it cheap & it weighs 2 pounds.
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Hey Dante, 2 pounds (that's less than your car weighs, yes ? LOL). Do you use the MP2 wah ?, I run mine on triggered partly coz it's easier (for the few times I use it) and I don't have 2 CC pedals for the MXC.
Note though, the wah is after the compressor but before the tube stage of the MP2, so in front. And no pesky cables :banana:
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I run my wah in front of everything (which forces me to run two extra cables out to the front of the stage - just for the wah :hair-out: )
That's why i got a dunlop rack wah :lol:
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I run my wah in front of everything (which forces me to run two extra cables out to the front of the stage - just for the wah :hair-out: )
That's why i got a dunlop rack wah :lol:
shaddup, you
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There goes freedom of speech :lol: