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Non ADA Gear => Effects => Topic started by: Kim on September 12, 2016, 07:08:46 AM

Title: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Kim on September 12, 2016, 07:08:46 AM
I'm familiar with the switchless type wah, and actually greatly prefer it.  However, I'd like a chance to try the 95q myself because sometimes the Morley wah I have just doesn't feel like it should in terms of sound.

Kick ass vid, SamuraiP!
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 12, 2016, 04:35:30 PM
Hey Kim,

   You must have the same one I do, the first model. The second version of the Bad Horsie has a knob on it to adjust the filter.
   I might like to try the Dunlop out just because I never really liked the footprint of Morley wah pedals.
   By the way, the Morley uses an optical switch to detect motion as opposed to a pressure switch. I'm on my 2nd one, since no one around here would work on those. That poses a question in my mind about the Dunlop pedal. The most frequent problem I have with Dunlop and Vox pedals is the foot pad will eventually start to peel up. Since that's where the pressure switch is, I wonder if that will cause a problem with the pedal?

       Harley 8)
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Kim on September 12, 2016, 05:15:25 PM
Harley, I have the Mark Tremonti wah.   No external adjustment for filter or Q. 
If I knew my local Guitar Center had a 95Q to try out, I'd actually go in there for something useful....   ::)
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Samuraipanda on September 13, 2016, 05:18:35 AM
I have both the 95Q and the Bad Horsie II. The Dunlop has a very brief lag when you take your foot off. There's supposed to be a hack for it but I've never called Dunlop to learn it. The Bad Horsie sounds a bit thinner to me even with the filter turned all the way down, but it is a more aggressive wah and when pinned all the way forward has a great sweet spot for pinch harmonics, etc.

If you listen to the ADA Minor Blues Jam you can hear a good example of the Bad Horsie in the 2nd half of my solo.
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Kim on September 13, 2016, 10:24:23 AM
I wonder if that Dunlop has an adjustable trumpet ("trumpet"?  Really?  Stupid autocorrect on my phone. I got your adjustable trumpet right here. >:(  That's trimpot...) inside for the "foot off delay" like the Morley does?
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Samuraipanda on September 13, 2016, 11:59:20 AM
It doesn't have a switch or adjustment for that but I've researched and read that Dunlop techs will tell you how to bypass the delay if you call them. I just haven't ever taken the time to.
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 13, 2016, 03:52:00 PM
Kim,

    What is the knob for on that wah then?

Panda,

    Yeah, Bad Horsie does have a thin sound to it, but that is built to Steve Vai's specs. It's useful for some things that involve humbuckers, but not so great with single coils.

    I also have an Ibanez Weeping Demon wah pedal, which is fully adjustable in every sense, and has a great effects range to it, but the downside is that is isn't true bypass, and there is a definite difference to your sound when it's bypassed. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Kim on September 14, 2016, 12:41:28 PM
That there knob is a Boost when the wah is on.  Definitely want that all the way down if wah'ing Clean stuff.  I've experimented up an down all over with that knob and best for me is just keep it about 50%.   The wah itself works pretty good up on the meedley meedley strings, but not so good on the chugga chugga strings....
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 14, 2016, 03:18:15 PM
That there knob is a Boost when the wah is on.  Definitely want that all the way down if wah'ing Clean stuff.  I've experimented up an down all over with that knob and best for me is just keep it about 50%.   The wah itself works pretty good up on the meedley meedley strings, but not so good on the chugga chugga strings....

   Too mushy?
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Kim on September 14, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
Too mushy?

Just not really all that noticeable of an effect down there, if that makes any sense.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 15, 2016, 05:07:53 AM
Too mushy?

Just not really all that noticeable of an effect down there, if that makes any sense.  :dunno:

   Yes it does, it's more of a 'woofer' than a wah in the low end. Anyone remember the old DeArmond Woofer pedal?  I've been thinking about trying out the John Petrucci Signature wah.
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 15, 2016, 09:54:44 AM
Doesn't John use a rack wah?
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 15, 2016, 05:56:32 PM
John's rig is always changing. Dunlop made a pedal for him that has the sound he uses already dialed in, (JP-95), that is available to the public if you don't want the DCR-25R rack unit. For some reason, John had the guts of this put back in a rack case, and the foot pedal is now a controller for that. Weird :crazy:

    Check it out:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlI4Bz8qGeI
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 16, 2016, 05:37:34 AM
So essentially he's still using a rack wah  ;D
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Kim on September 16, 2016, 10:27:28 AM
I've been thinking about trying out the John Petrucci Signature wah.

Here we go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX3Telnknc
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 16, 2016, 11:23:38 AM
That was GREAT Kim  :lol:
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 16, 2016, 04:00:38 PM
Yeah, he got it in a compact pedal, and had it put back in the rack case, go figure.
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 17, 2016, 10:57:43 AM
Hey Harley ,didn't you hear ,he's GOD, he can do what he want  ;)
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 17, 2016, 11:00:06 AM
That's funny! I do the same thing :lol:
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 17, 2016, 11:10:42 AM
Great so now get a JP wah so you can explode some heads like in tenacious D but you can use a wah !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j199j4gRDFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j199j4gRDFE)
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 17, 2016, 11:25:54 AM
The only thing missing is the dancing banana  :banana-dance:
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 17, 2016, 11:31:29 AM
So what wah pedals do you guys use?

I have the dunlup DCR-2SR rack wah, a dunlop 535Q (the old 18V version) and an old boss FW-3.
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 17, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
I have an old Dunlop GCB-95 that has been modified with a Hot Potz 100K linear taper pot, an original 1968 Vox Clyde McCoy wah, a Morley Bad Horsie, and an EMB Intelligent Wah/Panner. I only use the Ibanez WD7 here at home to experiment with different wah sounds. It does the same as the JP-95 if I want it to, but you can tell it's in the signal path even when bypassed, so it's never used for anything but goofing around.

   Sometimes, I also use the wah in the MP-2

     Harley 8)
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Dante on September 17, 2016, 12:36:00 PM
For years I used a GCB-95 with the hotpot upgrade, but got tired of replacing them every couple years. I tried my Boss V-wah on a whim and really like it. There is no pot to wear out and I get several wahs to play with (most times, I prefer the Vox wah). It also has a dirt box built in, which I have set to a clean boost, using the heal switch. Not a bad unit, a bit larger than, but half the weight of the GCB-95.
Title: Re: Switchless Wahs
Post by: Harley Hexxe on September 17, 2016, 05:02:39 PM
For years I used a GCB-95 with the hotpot upgrade, but got tired of replacing them every couple years. I tried my Boss V-wah on a whim and really like it. There is no pot to wear out and I get several wahs to play with (most times, I prefer the Vox wah). It also has a dirt box built in, which I have set to a clean boost, using the heal switch. Not a bad unit, a bit larger than, but half the weight of the GCB-95.

    I had one of those, but sold it off a few years ago, it just seemed to be lacking something to my ears.