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Non ADA Gear => Amps => Topic started by: El Chiguete on May 09, 2016, 07:44:28 AM
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So I decided to stop beeing a girly and get a mens poweramp! LOL
I want something to pair it up with my MP-1 for a kickass tone! Now here are the options:
A) Mesa 2:95: class A EL34 tubes plus added power of 6L6 but can be run independently that a forum bro is offering one to me at a killer price!
B) Marshall EL34 100/100: a friend hasnt used it in 6 years and he let me borrow it, probably I could convince him on selling it but no idea on what price he would ask... also I need to have my tech look at it because it has some issues that could maybe be jus the tubes going bad
C) Mesa 2:90: it comes with 6L6 tubes but can be changed to EL34,,, BUT it needs fixing and the owner didnt want to spend money on it because he doesnt use it that much anymore
So what are your oppinions on these amps? Forget about the part that 2 of them probably need fixing (one FOR SURE) but if you would be looking for a poweramp that will give you all the color that the EL34 give (not looking for a transparent amp tone) what would you choose?
Also, if you have anything good or bad to say about them please tell. I've heard that those Marshalls might give problems from time to time but I really have no experience on them. And as far as components I don't know anything about them but I only see "upgrade mods" on the Marshall and never on the Mesas... so whats up with that? LOL
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No need to mod or upgrade a 295!
Man, that's THE poweramp! I wish they'd still make them!
More than one could ever want or need. The 295 IS LEGEND!!!
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Well thats +1 point por the 2:95 lol
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If you want a marshall tube power amp go for the 9005 sounds a lot better then those mono blocks.
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If you want a marshall tube power amp go for the 9005 sounds a lot better then those mono blocks.
Yeha I'm on the lookout of one but haven't found one :(
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Yeah these a re a bit hard to find,but they sound really good,out guitar player has the 9005 and a 9200 ,a world of difference.
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Wow on another forum someone is offering my a Peavey 60/60 rack poweramp FREE and I would just have to pay for shipping... don't know if they can use or be modded to use EL34s or no.
It's a hard decision because the Mesa 2:95 a member here is offering is THE poweramp to have and be done with it and never have to think of another poweramp ever... and now I get this offer....
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Well i would go for the 2:95 with the options you have now.
Isn't that"free" amp to good to be true?
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Mmm free power amp ? what are they after ? Is the Messa a EL34 amp ? I thought boogie were mostly a 6L6 shop ?
A nice "new" Carvin TS100 with EL34s (they take either 6L6 or EL34s) and change the phase splitters' to a 12AT7s (so you get a bit of poweramp distortion/colour) could be your perfect amp ?
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Since EC wants poweramp coloration the 295 is the way to go. Either 34s, 6L6s, both in SimulClass or each channel with a different type....The 295 delivers
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Mmm free power amp ? what are they after ? Is the Messa a EL34 amp ? I thought boogie were mostly a 6L6 shop ?
The 2:95 has both EL34 and 6L6 and you can choose only the EL34 in Class A at 30watts or both together at 95watts!!!
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Isn't that"free" amp to good to be true?
I think the same BUT he says he has two and don't use either anymore because he has moved to using amps and pedals instead of racks.
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Ok so for the last couple of days I've been testing the Marshall EL34 100/100 and for sure at least his tubes are somewhat bad: one side has a nice presence tone but has less volume, and the other side it has less presence but it's louder... I deffinetly like the side that overall has less volume but it really has the shimmering tone that you look for in Marshalls!
So my question is: does the Mesa 2:95 get that tone too with its EL34 tubes? does it add that color to the tone?
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What voicing did you use on the marshall,there are 2?
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What voicing did you use on the marshall,there are 2?
Well I was using voicing A most of the times but there lies another "issue" on that poweramp, the different voicings are not working correctly because not allways the LED turned on when changing between them and also one side sounded different than the other.
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Could be a bad relay.
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@MJMP;
I've seen Marshall poweramps that on the front panel, they are printed with 9000, but yet people are calling these power amps 9005. Am I missing something here?
Harley 8)
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Well marshall had a 9000 series amps and preamps.From what I recall the 9001 was a valve preamp and the 9004 was a SS preamp.Then you had the 9005 which was 50/50W valve power amp (very good) then you had some SS power amps like 9040 and 9060 (not sure about these numbers).But all those amps had like you said "9000 series" printed on the front.
The main difference is the height,the 9005 was a whoping 4U while the 9040 and 9060 were only 2U.
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I seem to remember the 9005 weighing in at about as much as my old car
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I seem to remember the 9005 weighing in at about as much as my old car
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Well marshall had a 9000 series amps and preamps.From what I recall the 9001 was a valve preamp and the 9004 was a SS preamp.Then you had the 9005 which was 50/50W valve power amp (very good) then you had some SS power amps like 9040 and 9060 (not sure about these numbers).But all those amps had like you said "9000 series" printed on the front.
The main difference is the height,the 9005 was a whoping 4U while the 9040 and 9060 were only 2U.
Yes, I remember seeing them in the shops when they were new, I just never looked into them because I was really getting into the ADA gear a lot more at the time and liked the idea of having the same power but in a smaller package. I guess when it comes to real tube poweramps, it can only get shrunk down a little bit. That's the compromise. I might have liked the sound of the 9005 if I had tried it, but it would have had to work well with the ADA preamp, since the Marshall preamps seemed very limited in the variety of tones. I did experiment a little with the JMP-1 in the store when it was out, but I wasn't impressed. That was when I chose the Classic and bought it.
These days, I am considering the Mesa 2:95 for the classic since I doubt I'll ever find a T100S. Like the MP-2, I like the B200S better for the Classic than the Microtube. It's quieter, and warmer. Maybe a bit of poweramp coloration is just the ticket.
Harley 8)
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I would really like to test the B200S but no one over here has one :( ... anyway next month I should get a 2:95 and just be dont with it! LOL
BTW I came to the realization yesterday that for general rehersals and even at quick practicing at home I can use the cab sim of the Lexicon for a quick setup when tone chasing is not the exact idea but just learning song or jamming along. I came to this conclusion when the other guitarist just plugged to the solid state amp that was in the rehersal studio and didnt bring nothing more than his guitar... so why be bothered with all the extra gear when no one (at least on that particuar scenario) is chasing tone on the rehearsal.
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Hey El, shame you can't get to hear a B200s, they are a great match with ADA preamps and no where near as heavy as Dantes old car LoL.
I understand where you are coming from re how much gear etc, it very much depends on what you are trying to achieve in the rehearsal/session. Eg in one band (The Queue) we used to do one rehearsal a week for harmony rehearsal so we just played acoustics, but if you are doing a "dress rehearsal" for a gig, then set up the rig. Also later with the same band when neighbors were an issue the drummer just played practice pads and we all tuned right down so you could sing over it without a PA as we were just learning new songs for the set.
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I would really like to test the B200S but no one over here has one :( ... anyway next month I should get a 2:95 and just be dont with it! LOL
BTW I came to the realization yesterday that for general rehersals and even at quick practicing at home I can use the cab sim of the Lexicon for a quick setup when tone chasing is not the exact idea but just learning song or jamming along. I came to this conclusion when the other guitarist just plugged to the solid state amp that was in the rehersal studio and didnt bring nothing more than his guitar... so why be bothered with all the extra gear when no one (at least on that particuar scenario) is chasing tone on the rehearsal.
Hey EC,
The B200S is surprisingly good for a solid state amp. It's quiet, and it seems to have a lot of emphasis on the warm side of amplification, and it's louder than a locomotive! ;D ADA claimed it was a poweramp tuned specifically for guitar. Personally, I like the sound of it as far as solid state amps go. It's not sterile sounding like other guitar amps.
I agree with you about using some other amp for just practicing or rehearsing. When you aren't trying to create a specific sound, any practice amp with a decent tone will do the job. When I'm playing alone and trying to figure out something, I'm usually using one of my Fender G-Dec amps. I have a couple of cool programs in those that sound really good. Nothing like the ADA stacks, but good to play around with. If I'm rehearsing at lower volumes, I use my Vibrolux Reverb, and that is once again a good sound, but not my ADA rig.
At the risk of sounding repetitive, most of the real tones come from my fingers. The amplifiers just embellish that tone.
Harley 8)