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Title: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on October 26, 2017, 02:02:30 AM
Has anyone ever heard of this unit?  I might buy one that is going for a good price but can't find a dam thing about it and I have no idea of it's good or worth it or what?

I have read a few reviews but their pretty  :poop: and basic and not proper indepth.

Thought I'd throw it out there and see if one of you fine fellows knew about it????????
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: vansinn on October 26, 2017, 04:25:08 AM
Quick search found this:
Rocktron Intellipitch : richter's user review (Audiofanzine) (https://en.audiofanzine.com/octaver-harmonizer-whammy/rocktron/intellipitch/user_reviews/r.36657.html)

Else, try locating a Digitech TSR-24S 19" processor ;)
BTW, TSR of course means Terminate [and] Stay Rockin'.. :dunno:
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on October 26, 2017, 05:47:30 AM
I read that one, it's not really a lot to go on, the guy sounds like he's tripping of his nuts.

I've done a internet search but nothing detailed at all.  They few shitty reviews or forums chats about it say it's good.

Why recommend this? Digitech TSR-24S  It's not a harmonizer.   I have a Digitech ISP33 which personally I think is really amazing sounding but I am keen to hear what this rare Roctron sounds like.  One is a lot older than the other.

I bought the intellipitch, so hopefully I can try it out soon and let you all know.  In the mean time if anyone knows anything at all about this unit please let chime in.  If it's not for me I'll sell it again.
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: vansinn on October 26, 2017, 09:10:08 AM
Well,the TSR-24 does house a harmonizer..
OT, so /EOT/ ;)
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on October 26, 2017, 01:34:23 PM
Do you have one?  What's it like?
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: vansinn on October 27, 2017, 01:19:55 AM
Yeah, I have one (had two).
Look up ?' resent thread on his Digitech 2110. Those are build on the TSR-24, so the effects library and all are the same.
The TSR has an effects library, a routing and mix engine, two inputs, four outputs, and nothing is fixed connected; any effects can be combined and routed in any ways wanted.
This means you can have two separate mono-in stereo out engines, or stereo in/out, or one mono in/oyt + one mono-in stereo-out, or stereo-in quad out..

Still don't mean to OT your discussion about the Rocktron. Those of their devices I've heard have all been pretty pretty; just never heard the one you're discussing, so..
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on October 31, 2017, 06:19:02 AM
This must be one rare bird since no one has even heard of it.  Apparently these don't come up for sale very often which can sometimes mean they are that good people don't want rid of them.  Then again it might be shit!!

I got it this morning so I will try it out later on BTW.
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: Kim on October 31, 2017, 07:48:14 AM
I don't recall ever seeing one either.  "Heard" of them, (along with the Intelliverb) but not seen.

Very curious to hear how this works out for you!  :wave:
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on October 31, 2017, 09:04:25 AM
I really didn't need to buy the unit but I figured it was really rare and may be it is really rare and worth keeping.  I love the IPS33 and I will not sell that but this Rocktron might also be good to own.

I'll get this tested out later hopefully!
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: Systematic Chaos on October 31, 2017, 05:31:29 PM
Late reply here....
I had one in the late 90s/early 2000s.....
The Intellipitch was Rocktron´s take on the Eventide and is one of the most transparent intelligent pitch shifters out there.
Its basically a beefed-up Intellifex (the 90s almost industry standard guitar rack FX processor) including Rocktron´s HUSH (which you know).
These normally go for real major $$$ IF they pop up which is a rare occasion. If you managed to get it under 400€ you can consider yourself a lucky SOB!
You'll dump that Digitech IPS in an instant for the Intellipitch!

http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/fs-rocktron-intellipitch-intelligent-pitch-shifter-very-rare.10440/ (http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/fs-rocktron-intellipitch-intelligent-pitch-shifter-very-rare.10440/)
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: vansinn on October 31, 2017, 10:42:45 PM
@SC: How would you compare the quality and versatility of the Intellipitch vs the harmonizer in your 2120 ?

As you may know, I've been using a TSR-24 for years; same digital engine as in the 2120.
I'm now trying to compare and maybe prepare for gear change. While I'm quite happy with the TSR-24 harmonizer, it can be a touch too synthetic at times- which I used to like, but my preferences are changing and I have absolutely no use of harmonizing unless it's very clean and natural.
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on November 01, 2017, 02:32:22 AM
Late reply here....
I had one in the late 90s/early 2000s.....
The Intellipitch was Rocktron´s take on the Eventide and is one of the most transparent intelligent pitch shifters out there.
Its basically a beefed-up Intellifex (the 90s almost industry standard guitar rack FX processor) including Rocktron´s HUSH (which you know).
These normally go for real major $$$ IF they pop up which is a rare occasion. If you managed to get it under 400€ you can consider yourself a lucky SOB!
You'll dump that Digitech IPS in an instant for the Intellipitch!

http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/fs-rocktron-intellipitch-intelligent-pitch-shifter-very-rare.10440/ (http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/fs-rocktron-intellipitch-intelligent-pitch-shifter-very-rare.10440/)

Is there a piece of gear you have not had?   :lol:

I read that is was the "poor mans"  Eventide on that very thread you linked us to.  To me I'm less fussy with harmonizers, I don't mind the fake quality at all because I see it as an effect anyway, just so long as it's

A) Smart
B) Tracks really well
C) Sounds decent to my ears

The IPS blew my balls off compared to what I was used to with the Boss GT5/GT6/GX700 harmonizers.  So if you really think the Intellipitch is that good then I can't wait to try it out!!!  IPS tracks my playing amazingly fast thanks to the distortion loop.

I was meant to try Intellipitch last night but I ran out of time and had to make up some new patch cables and then I couldn't be bothered to set it all up.  Tonight will be the night however :)

As for the price.  I got mine for £99 (113.06€)  I guess I'm a lucky SOB!
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: Systematic Chaos on November 01, 2017, 04:26:46 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

Dude, I "grew up" gear-wise while playing in a party rock band with 50+ gigs per year in the early 90s when "more was better". Our other guitar player was the owner of a music store where I jobbed in my spare time after school.
I always got to check out and test-drive whatever piece of guitar gear was brand spankin new, regularly swapping and trading whatever was in my fridge-sized rack.
Add to that approx 200$ per gig everyone of us got cash.

I had the Intellipitch together with a Rocktron Piranha Preamp back in the day and it definitely fulfills your A-C.
Its way better than the successor to the IPS, the DHP.
And for the price you paid....... :thumb-up: :thumb-up: :thumb-up: :thumb-up:
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on November 01, 2017, 04:41:32 AM
Like a covers band?

50 gigs a year is hard to do with a fulltime job for me personally.  In fact there isn't 50 places to play metal in the whole of Ireland.  We do our fair share though.  One one is wealthy enough to quit their job and this band thing does not pay well at all.

You were in a very lucky position then having the band member with the shop, I was never in that position,  my first amp was and setup was all down to what I could afford really.  It's only now I'm able to experiment.  However I don't like to change to often, it's good to settle on a rig "base" I think.  Also there is practicality involved.  I can't make my rack bigger as I can't get it on planes and I have no roadies to set my shit up in 15mins for shows without sound checks for me either. 

Well I'll try record something tonight and post it on youtube.  Weird the Intellipitch did not catch on.  And yes you are right, it's programmed by the same people who did the Eventide.

Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rnolan on November 02, 2017, 12:46:58 AM
Hey RG, I used to use the dist loop in my IPS like you, as the manual says, it uses the signal direct from the guitar to track but then applies it to the distorted sound (which it got from send 3 on my desk).  But it was such a pain to plug the guitar into the back of the unit (particularly changing guitars if a string popped). So I stopped using the loop and it still tracked just fine.  Have you tried it both ways ?
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on November 19, 2017, 08:52:02 AM
@ Richard, I never used it without the loop!  Is there much difference?

Ok tried to Rocktron-Intellipitch,  I have been very busy so only got round to it today!!  :facepalm:

Uh not blown away by it's sound at all.  The pitch shift sounds are not as good as the IPS33.  They are ok, but to me not mind blowing.  When I first used the IPS33 I remember thinking "wow".  When I used the Intellipitch I was like "this is a bit underwhelming".  Perhaps it's the preset's I tried just suck?  I dunno?  But yeah I'll hang onto both may be for the hell of it and see if I can get anything good from the Intellipitch.  Good unit but didn't blow my balls off.
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rnolan on November 20, 2017, 02:51:03 AM
Hey RG, initially I used the IPS33 dist loop as it made sense.  I ran like that for quite a while.  Then I got over having to plug the guitar into the back of the rack (as I didn't run anything in front of the MP1). I ran the IPS33 input off send 3 of my desk so I tried it direct to the input rather than the dist loop return and it worked just as well without stuffing around and meant I could plug the guitar direct into the MP1 (later MP2) in front.  Also I sent both ADA channels to send 3 ie IPS33 in (send 1 & 2 are L/R to Quadverb), IPS33 1 & 2 outs to 2 channels, also sent to Quadverb.  I didn't notice any tracking degradation not using the dist loop so stayed like that.
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on January 22, 2018, 01:24:53 AM
Update on the Intellipitch, perhaps I was a little tooooooooooooooooo quick to write this thing off!

Ok it's awesome.  And i'm sorry to say it is better than the IPS33.

I have to say this though, the IPS33 is better than the 33B which has a lot more processing power and better features and controls.  However the IPS33B cannot track for shit!  The only time it can track distorted guitar is when it is in "chord" tracking mode.  But guess what?  Chord tracking mode is not available with all harmonist modes, so it's available in Chromatic, but not Scalic!!!!!!!  WTF!!

I don't give a  :poop: what I have read, the IPS33B is not better than the IPS33, not if it can't track properly.  It can in chromatic, but in scalic even with "distortion" tracking setting on it falls down badly.  It can't just about handle anything played on the unwound e b and g strings but as soon as you go lower on the bass strings it warbles like a sonic turd!

The Intellipitch....................flawless tracking!!!!  Raises pitch with bends no problem, sounds great, plays along with you as fast as you play.  Great unit.  I'll be hanging onto it.

I have to also say the Boss SX700 has a harmonizer on it also.  It sounds nearly as good, obviously less advanced, not sure it does scales, and just has chromatic, but it tracks as good ad the Rocktron.
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: Systematic Chaos on January 22, 2018, 03:01:09 PM
Update on the Intellipitch, perhaps I was a little tooooooooooooooooo quick to write this thing off!

Ok it's awesome.  And i'm sorry to say it is better than the IPS33.
(...)
The Intellipitch....................flawless tracking!!!!  Raises pitch with bends no problem, sounds great, plays along with you as fast as you play.  Great unit.  I'll be hanging onto it.
(...)

 :thumb-up: 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on January 23, 2018, 12:10:00 AM
You were right man  :thumb-up:

Still like the IPS33, not sure if I'll sell it,  it has more scales than the Intellipitch, and you can create your own scales also.

Cannot believe the 33B though is the one people brag about!  Utter shit.  Selling on ebay.
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: Systematic Chaos on January 23, 2018, 01:15:22 AM
If you stumble over a DHP55, snag it!!
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on January 23, 2018, 03:22:28 AM
For guitar?  Isn't that for vocals only?
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: Systematic Chaos on January 23, 2018, 03:33:33 AM
Nope, the DHP33 and DHP55 are for guitar
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/thoughts-digitech-dhp-33-dhp-55-a-21443.html#/topics/21443 (http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/thoughts-digitech-dhp-33-dhp-55-a-21443.html#/topics/21443)
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on January 23, 2018, 04:49:20 AM
Nope, the DHP33 and DHP55 are for guitar
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/thoughts-digitech-dhp-33-dhp-55-a-21443.html#/topics/21443 (http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/thoughts-digitech-dhp-33-dhp-55-a-21443.html#/topics/21443)

Hmmmm weird I thought they were "general purpose" harmony machines.  I would not want to buy one and suffer from shit tracking.  Weird Satriana and The Edge and others all liked the IPS33B.

Wonder why they changed the name of the range, I DHP were the follow ons from the IPS.  Read the 55 is better than the 33.  Since I already got the Intellipitch, why should I be looking out for the DHP33 or DHP55?  Are you trying to increase my gas?
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: Peter H. Boer on January 23, 2018, 11:13:05 PM
Nope, the DHP33 and DHP55 are for guitar
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/thoughts-digitech-dhp-33-dhp-55-a-21443.html#/topics/21443 (http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/thoughts-digitech-dhp-33-dhp-55-a-21443.html#/topics/21443)
I use the DHP33 for bass  :thumb-up:
It has tracking settings for Bass, guitar and distorted guitar. 8)
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: rabidgerry on January 25, 2018, 12:14:38 AM
Nope, the DHP33 and DHP55 are for guitar
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/thoughts-digitech-dhp-33-dhp-55-a-21443.html#/topics/21443 (http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/thoughts-digitech-dhp-33-dhp-55-a-21443.html#/topics/21443)
I use the DHP33 for bass  :thumb-up:
It has tracking settings for Bass, guitar and distorted guitar. 8)
So does the IPS33B but it sucks ass.  Peter, when you get a chance try it with distorted guitar and see what you think?  The 33b can only track the treble strings and as soon as notes get lower it shits itself, unless it's on the "chord" tracking setting which is only available in certain modes and not scale.
Title: Re: Rocktron-Intellipitch-Harmonizer - Has anyone heard or know anything about this
Post by: Peter H. Boer on January 25, 2018, 04:05:39 AM
So does the IPS33B but it sucks ass.  Peter, when you get a chance try it with distorted guitar and see what you think?  The 33b can only track the treble strings and as soon as notes get lower it shits itself, unless it's on the "chord" tracking setting which is only available in certain modes and not scale.
I have no problems with the tracking on the bass setting, even when using one of my most grindy bass sounds
only below the low G it sometimes misses a note.