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rnolan

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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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RG posted quite a bit about these quite a while ago.  IIRC it was pretty detailed and he let us know what worked and didn't as he experimented with them.
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Ok so tested the new room layout.  It worked out well.  As I thought the singer had some issues.  I shall draw a diagram of the floor plan arrangement and let you see what it looks like now.  Few tweeks here and there and I reckon it will be even better.

I noticed one thing, I was getting more feedback than normal.  The chirpy annoying feedback.  I dunno if I was playing sloppy or if my vocal mic was picking up my cabs  and then coming out through the PA.

I'll let one of you answer that. 

Edit:  Ammended Diagram, tired my best from memory to get the angles right of the PA speakers (vox1 and vox 2) and the vocal mic.

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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
« Reply #47 on: Time Format »

Hey RG, it could be vocal mic  :dunno: and often is in small room situations (this is where (among other situations) shitloads of PA power amp headroom helps BTW).  (chirpy sounds around 2.5k, 3k, 4k, if you can nip them back in the eq it may help)
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Yeah it's about that range RN.  My cabs aren't actually mic'd but my vocal mic is right in front to of one of my stacks so this is probably picking up a bit of guitar I assume.  And then that is coming out of the PA which is beside one of my stacks on the other side.  Not sure if there is a feedback loop in there somewhere.  Check the diagram Rn and see what you think.  Pretend my vocal mic is right in front of Guitar Cab 1.  Actually I'll ammend the diagram.

The room size is huge actually, but we only occupy half of it.  So say we have a space 12m x 6m.
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Hey RG, did you post a diagram ? couldn't see one yet.

That's not a bad space, if you can get your hands on an old parachute or two they are good to hang from the roof to diffuse the top end a bit and help clean up  reflections.  To the extent you can, best your vocal mic isn't getting much guitar as it will add to the "confusion" (hard to now quite how to put it?? hopefully you get what I mean there  :crazy: ).  Also the guitar will drive those chirpy frequencies a bit and more of them means more chance of feedback.
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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yeah I did post the diagram, it's the one with the mics on it, 4 posts up.

It's hard to show accurate space between the cabs and mics, the diagram isn't accurate to scale.

Think the feedback was just coming from my gear though and not out of the PA.
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Guitars:1986 Westone Dimension IV, 1989 Korean Squier Fat Strat Silver Series, 1998 Korean Squier Fat Strat, MIM Fender Fat Strat - FR, Squier Stagemaster Deluxe - Thru Neck x 2, Squier Stagemaster 22 Fret - 1st Gen, 1999 Squier Showmaster - Anniversary Edition, Squier Showmaster, Tokai FV40 Flying V

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