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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
« Reply #15 on: Time Format »

No I haven't had them seperated in a while.  The last configuration I had them arranged in was to stop coupling which was giving me insane amounts of bass, I mean so much I could feel it in my intestines!!

So the way I moved them eliminated this.  But then only a few weeks ago I moved them again closer together and stacking two 2x12" together.  So this is where I am currently at two 2x12" stacked together left and right but with very little gap seperating both stacks.

I'll test the phase with all the cabs first then perhaps widen the stacks.
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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When I use 2 split stacks I always have a gap at least as wide as one cab width if I can, but sharing stages and cabs etc, you do the best you can at the time (in what little time you have to setup  :facepalm: ).  I also like to use milk crates to get the off the stage/floor, this also aims the top speakers more at my ears, so I don't play too loud  >:D (a trait of mine apparently LoL) or too toppy.  These days I've been using the spare split stack which is wired stereo, so just one cab on a milk crate.  It gets a bit flangy as there's no separation between the speakers as they are in the same cab.

@Dante, well all monitor wedges are not made equal LoL, and no doubt the singer gets the good ones.  It also could have been either no eq or bad eq settings on that monitor send, and what amp was being used ? or was it a powered box ?  The MP2 room eq knob helps for these situations, eg full counter clock (bassy) may have saved the day ?
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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It was a powered monitor, cheap plastic housing, sounded crappy. Never again.

When I run in stereo for gigs, I typically tilt my 1x12 cabs back (leaning against the back wall or another amp) to point them at my head onstage. I also like to point them outwards or separate them a good amount. I never hear both speakers unless I go offstage into the crowd, which I do ;)

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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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When I use 2 split stacks I always have a gap at least as wide as one cab width if I can, but sharing stages and cabs etc, you do the best you can at the time (in what little time you have to setup  :facepalm: ).  I also like to use milk crates to get the off the stage/floor, this also aims the top speakers more at my ears, so I don't play too loud  >:D (a trait of mine apparently LoL) or too toppy.  These days I've been using the spare split stack which is wired stereo, so just one cab on a milk crate.  It gets a bit flangy as there's no separation between the speakers as they are in the same cab.

Well the old saying goes you must be positioned equal to or greater than the distance between the left+right speakers in order to hear the stereo image correctly.  So I should have mine further apart.

I too have three milk crates high for each stack.  And I also adjust treble according to this position as you heap it on if your cab is on the floor and you happen to be of axis all the time.  I plan on getting my stacks higher also by at least another crate each side.  I find cabs at least ear level is the best way to hear yourself.  If I can get a cab up high at a gig you bet your bottom dollar I will.  It has saved my ass many a time with poor monitor mix at shows because I can hear my own amp nice and loud then right behind me. 
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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I always have my cabs sitting directly on the bass cabs, so there's a 4x10 bass cab and a 4x12 guitar cab on each side of the drum kit.  And since I only use the top two speakers in my 4x12 cabs for the guitar anyway, those speakers are at the perfect ear level to me.
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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You always put your cabs on bass cabs?  What do you mean?  Then you have another two cabs left and right of the drummer?  So you play using three guitar cabs one in the centre and one on the left and right?
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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I think Kim means they put the bass players cabs either side of the drums on the bottom and he puts his on top of them,
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Yep, His over-sized 2x12 cabs  :lol:
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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I think Kim means they put the bass players cabs either side of the drums on the bottom and he puts his on top of them,

Yes.  Works very well, too.  Actually the speakers aren't "quite" up at my ear level, but really about at my shoulder-level.  Close enough.   :)
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Well FRACK me Kim LoL  :thumb-up: A new meaning to surround sound.
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Well FRACK me Kim LoL  :thumb-up: A new meaning to surround sound.

LOL  Well, I rebadged the cabs just for fun.    One is "FRICK" and the other "FRACK". 
While the bassist hasn't rebadged his cabs, we call them "BORIS" and "NATASHIA"   :lol:
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Well FRACK me Kim LoL  :thumb-up: A new meaning to surround sound.

LOL  Well, I rebadged the cabs just for fun.    One is "FRICK" and the other "FRACK". 
While the bassist hasn't rebadged his cabs, we call them "BORIS" and "NATASHIA"   :lol:

GREAT  :lol:
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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He needs some name plates  :thumb-up: , (and from men in black 3, "it's just BORIS...")
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Hey Kim,any reason you call them Frick and Frack?
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Re: Stereo Live Rig setup
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Hey Kim,any reason you call them Frick and Frack?
Because Heckle and Jeckle didn't quite fit the bill?
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