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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
« Reply #135 on: Time Format »

I mess around with an MXR micro amp turned up about 1/2 way. Eh, it adds some hair/fizz but no real volume. I'm not blown away and it probably wouldn't make it into my live rig. I'll try it with some different patches.
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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I boost mine with a SD1 for death metal.
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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I boost mine with a SD1 for death metal.
How do you set the SD-1?

I personally can't even add drive to any OD pedal I place in front of the MP1 never mind a distortion pedal.  Starts to feel weird and kinda distorts the distortion if you get what I mean?  Do you set the SD-1 low?  Or add drive?
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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I boost mine with a SD1 for death metal.
How do you set the SD-1?

I personally can't even add drive to any OD pedal I place in front of the MP1 never mind a distortion pedal.  Starts to feel weird and kinda distorts the distortion if you get what I mean?  Do you set the SD-1 low?  Or add drive?

Only set as a boost, full level no drive. It works well that way, any other way and I don't like the tone.
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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I've boosted the front end of my MP1 with an SD1 with the level and tone on max.  I'm using it for a more boosted modern metal sound and it gets you there with the right settings.

OD 1: 6.5
OD 2: 6.5
Master: 7
Bass: 6
Mid: -2
Treble: 4
Presence: 4

For live, I'm using the Roland GP8 via the 4-cable method, sending the analog overdrive through the front end.  Level's at 100 and drive is at 25, Turbo mode is "off." This actually gives a bit more body versus the SD1, and the cool thing about the GP8 is it has a dedicated analog EQ so you can shape the overdrive sound to get more or less of certain frequencies.  Then, I use a Boss NS50 half-rack to bring down the noise and get a little tighter.  Each patch also has up two 2 external outs to loop in and out, so I have it set to turn the NS50 on and off.

Guitar -> GP8 input
GP8 output -> MP1 Fx Return
GP8 Return -> MP1 FX send
GP8 Send-> NS50 input
NS50 output -> MP1 input



The above method bypasses the digital section when the effects loop is off in the MP1, so your signal gets analogue passthrough.
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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That is one boost I'd like to try the SD1 this and a MXR Distortion.  The off putting thing for me about those two pedals is the lunacy regarding the olds vs the new ones so I don't want to get mixed up in all that bullshit.  I'd really love to try both but it appears I would need to buy the old models and this will cost silly money, that is unless this is just ear delussion talking the new ones just sound the same, hard to know, so many re-issues suffer the same plight and you have to ask yourself, so I succumb to this or just go with my own ears?
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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That is one boost I'd like to try the SD1 this and a MXR Distortion.  The off putting thing for me about those two pedals is the lunacy regarding the olds vs the new ones so I don't want to get mixed up in all that bullshit.  I'd really love to try both but it appears I would need to buy the old models and this will cost silly money, that is unless this is just ear delussion talking the new ones just sound the same, hard to know, so many re-issues suffer the same plight and you have to ask yourself, so I succumb to this or just go with my own ears?

I've seen the Japanese SD1s go for less than $100USD on eBay, though that may have been a fluke.
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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Try a BOSS DS-1 (not SD-1) as a booster for the MP-1....
Low Gain, High Volume, Tone as you like.
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Try a BOSS DS-1 (not SD-1) as a booster for the MP-1....
Low Gain, High Volume, Tone as you like.
  What is that like as a boost?

Again though same rat race with this model, you have to buy the pre '88 version I am told otherwise they moved to Taiwan and not as good apparently.

I have a Boss Line GL100 which works but has things wrong with it.  It's Japanese and all analogue.  It basically has all the boss pedals to that date inside it.  If this was working properly for me that would be the most awesome set of boosts on tap that anyone could wish for in a rack.  I might end up selling it though as it needs looked at.  Has strange break up issues the louder the output knob goes.
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Try a BOSS DS-1 (not SD-1) as a booster for the MP-1....
Low Gain, High Volume, Tone as you like.
  What is that like as a boost?

Again though same rat race with this model, you have to buy the pre '88 version I am told otherwise they moved to Taiwan and not as good apparently.

Mine is Made in Taiwan and it's the same of the Made in Japan version, no difference at all.
As for the TS808/TS9: things to overcharge for old pedals.

I don't like the DS-1 as distortion unit at all....but it's an excellent booster and a nice light overdrive, if used at low gain levels.
At high gain it becomes a hive.  :lol:
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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Well you know there are all those types out there who will argue that the Japanese model is best  :lol:

From what I know the DS-1 is generally used to good affect going into a tube head, I'm not sure how Boss intended it to be used but the famous users like Gary Moore used it to push the front end of a Marshall so it was all out and out DS-1 distortion.  I know this is something MJMP knows more about with the DS-1.

https://www.groundguitar.com/gary-moore-gear/gary-moores-boss-ds-1-distortion/
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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Japanese is best... for a DS-1. I like the japanese ones better the newer ones. For the SD-1, I prefer the taiwan ones.

A lot of the 80's trash bands used DS-1's in into a JCM800 MV (low input) and cranked the master. Sounded really good live.
The way I use it (in my pedal board) I boost the DS-1 with the SD-1. I got this idea from Criss Olivia but he used 2 SD-1's. Since I didn't have 2 SD-1's at the time I tried this and I still like it. I do prefer my JMP/JCM800 MV (low input) over the non MV marshall heads when it comes to amps when I use pedals.

Here is Gary explaining his Boss stuff. He used the DS-1 to boost his strat sound.   

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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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I started using a DS-1 as a booster in the '90s, when Paul Gilbert revealed his live rig with Mr Big: Ampeg head and 4x12 cabinet and a Boss DS-1 for soloing.
That's it.

Honestly, I cannot hear the difference between a Japan and a Taiwan one...all I can hear is that the DS-1 boosts your overdrive into lead very, very well: you just have to set Tone knob properly.
So, as soon as I had one home, I started using it with the MP-1 or the JMP1 or the Twin Tube  (or the PSA1, but it's gone now... :waving-banana-smiley-emoticon) and results are amazing.

An interesting comparison:





Maybe the Taiwan has a little more clarity at high gain settings? Or maybe no.
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Well you know there are all those types out there who will argue that the Japanese model is best  :lol:

Dangerous people.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Anyone here boost their ADA MP1?
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tried boosting my mp1. does not work. sounds really compressed and most of the bass frequencies is gone. eq pedal works much better imo.

i do boost all my other amps though. hi input on my jcm 800 and boost it with an overdrive.
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