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Miscellaneous => ADA Sound/Audio Clips & Bits => MP1 3TM => Topic started by: 2112 on January 07, 2021, 07:41:37 AM
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So stoked I finally got to try the 3TM. Very impressed!
https://youtu.be/Voq8o8HYl2w
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I'm really looking forward to some more action with the 3tm. I've never needed much more gain than 10,10 but certainly there is much to learn. Rock on LT, great seeing ya.
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Really looking forward to the next 3TM video.
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Really looking forward to the next 3TM video.
So am I :thumb-up:
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I've never needed much more gain than 10,10
I usually have enough gain at 6.0/6.0 or 7.0/7.0 on my no-3TM MP-1 (OK...there's a MDRT inside)... :lol:
But I also set a very open eq.
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So stoked I finally got to try the 3TM. Very impressed!
https://youtu.be/Voq8o8HYl2w
Very impressive job, Leon.
Keep rockin'!
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I've never needed much more gain than 10,10
I usually have enough gain at 6.0/6.0 or 7.0/7.0 on my no-3TM MP-1 (OK...there's a MDRT inside)... :lol:
But I also set a very open eq.
You know, with the original MP-1, I just happened to be screwing around with it one day on the clean tube voice, and I started playing with the OD1 and OD2 controls, i.e. leaving one at around 3.0, and turning up the other until it started breaking up, and I actually got some really wild overdriven tones that I thought sounded pretty darned good. I'm wondering it that still works with the MDRT in it?
Maybe you can give that a try.
Harley 8)
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You know, with the original MP-1, I just happened to be screwing around with it one day on the clean tube voice, and I started playing with the OD1 and OD2 controls, i.e. leaving one at around 3.0, and turning up the other until it started breaking up, and I actually got some really wild overdriven tones that I thought sounded pretty darned good. I'm wondering it that still works with the MDRT in it?
Maybe you can give that a try.
Harley 8)
Well, I'm working on some "bluesy" tones from my MP-1 in these days....so I'll definitely give that a try! :thumb-up: >:D
MDRT opens the overall sound and reduces the original compression.
Some creaminess could be missed, but the dynamics improvement is awesome.
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I just checked it out Harley. Of course the MP-1 has the full range of tones. I have OD1 @ 3 and OD2 @ 9.5 and it still cranks. The basic rhythm setting for me is 9.5, 9.5 and the volume is 3.5 into the poweramps, which are wide open at 50W and about 1 o'clock on the 100W Mesa. The mic preamps make up the difference and it arrives at a LA-3A comp immediately thereafter.
Never tried a 3TM but have heard them here, and they sound intense.
:headbanger:
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You know, with the original MP-1, I just happened to be screwing around with it one day on the clean tube voice, and I started playing with the OD1 and OD2 controls, i.e. leaving one at around 3.0, and turning up the other until it started breaking up, and I actually got some really wild overdriven tones that I thought sounded pretty darned good. I'm wondering it that still works with the MDRT in it?
Maybe you can give that a try.
Harley 8)
Well, I'm working on some "bluesy" tones from my MP-1 in these days....so I'll definitely give that a try! :thumb-up: >:D
MDRT opens the overall sound and reduces the original compression.
Some creaminess could be missed, but the dynamics improvement is awesome.
Try it both ways, IIRC, it was a different sounding OD when I raised the OD1 and kept the OD2 lower, but still interesting. Not quite like the Dist voice, but it got a bit gnarly.
Harley 8)
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Never tried a 3TM but have heard them here, and they sound intense.
:headbanger:
VERY intense! :banana-trip:
I can't speak for trying it out in other amps, but through my ADA rig, it can definitely curl my hair O0
Harley 8)
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Try it both ways, IIRC, it was a different sounding OD when I raised the OD1 and kept the OD2 lower, but still interesting. Not quite like the Dist voice, but it got a bit gnarly.
Of course I will. >:D
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Try it both ways, IIRC, it was a different sounding OD when I raised the OD1 and kept the OD2 lower, but still interesting. Not quite like the Dist voice, but it got a bit gnarly.
Of course I will. >:D
Experimentation is the real mother of invention :banana-dance:
Harley 8)
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Cheers all! It really does sound smoking, and the tube clean is now a very satisfying "brown sound" channel.
Just got an MP-2 as well, so I need to find a classic and complete the fam now :p
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Cheers all! It really does sound smoking, and the tube clean is now a very satisfying "brown sound" channel.
Just got an MP-2 as well, so I need to find a classic and complete the fam now :p
Ciao Leon! :wave:
Welcome to the tunnel. :banana-upsidedown:
There's no light at the end, 'cause there's no end. :poop:
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Cheers all! It really does sound smoking, and the tube clean is now a very satisfying "brown sound" channel.
Just got an MP-2 as well, so I need to find a classic and complete the fam now :p
From the last time I spoke with Richard about that, the Classics never made it to Australia.
I will share this with you: the Brown Tube voice in the Classics don't sound anything like the Clean tube voice in the 3TM. Not even near that much gain.
Harley 8)
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The MP-1s did ok here (in Australia) but they were very expensive, the MP-2 came out and I bought one IIRC it was $2.5k AUD, so I had to sell my MP-1 rig to afford it. But never saw a classic in the shop so I don't think Nunzio from Pro Audio brought them in. Also all the ADA effect units etc never made it here as new units, or I probably would have bought a couple. The up side is IIRC you can put a MDRT in a classic if you can source a US model. I was negotiating to buy one from the US but gave the sale/purchase to Dante as he really needed it (well more than I did).
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The Classic is not so easy to be found in Italy as well.
But today is difficult to find a standard MP-1 or a MP-2 and, when they come out, price is higher than 3-4 years ago a lot.
Today people asks 500 euro for a MP-1 or more... :crazy: :nono:
I would not buy a piece of gear 30-40 years old for all that money (I paid mine less than 200 euro in 2016), unless I know a very good skilled tech guy close to me (and also in that case I would think about it very, very well).
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I was negotiating to buy one from the US but gave the sale/purchase to Dante as he really needed it (well more than I did).
This is what makes The Depot a very special place to be! :thumb-up:
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Richard,
They weren't cheap here either. When the MP-1's were out, they were going for $800 USD. When the MP-2 came out they were going for $1000. MP-1 Classics went for $900 when they came out. Fortunately, six months after the release of the Classics they dropped the price $100. I believe that was due to a couple of things going on at the time.
One, there was a definite shift from rack gear happening at that time to pedal effects.
Two, I believe the complexity of the MP-2 had put a lot of guitar players off because they just couldn't get the tones as easily as they did with the MP-1. So ADA kind of fell from grace because of that, but you'll never get anyone at ADA to confirm that.
Harley 8)
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The Classic is not so easy to be found in Italy as well.
But today is difficult to find a standard MP-1 or a MP-2 and, when they come out, price is higher than 3-4 years ago a lot.
Today people asks 500 euro for a MP-1 or more... :crazy: :nono:
I would not buy a piece of gear 30-40 years old for all that money (I paid mine less than 200 euro in 2016), unless I know a very good skilled tech guy close to me (and also in that case I would think about it very, very well).
Iperfungus,
Prices on ADA gear started going up to what I considered to be ridiculous at least 15 years ago.
I remember when I started posting here in the Forum, I was still buying and selling MP-1's for right around $100. I sold one to a member in Puerto Rico for $100, and he was using it in his band within a week. I believe that was in '07.
By then, when I looked on evil-bay, they were already starting to show prices around $300 or more.
I agree with you. I wouldn't pay that much for something that would need work done to it as soon as you got it, just because of it's age.
Harley 8)
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The up side is IIRC you can put a MDRT in a classic if you can source a US model.
Actually you can't.
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The up side is IIRC you can put a MDRT in a classic if you can source a US model.
Actually you can't.
Hey MJMP, Bummer, I thought you told me it would work (back when I was going to buy a US one) :dunno: :facepalm:
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I wouldn't pay that much for something that would need work done to it as soon as you got it, just because of it's age.
Or that could break after 30 seconds you got it! :lol:
But that's a job for MJMP. >:D
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I wouldn't pay that much for something that would need work done to it as soon as you got it, just because of it's age.
Or that could break after 30 seconds you got it! :lol:
But that's a job for MJMP. >:D
I'm sure MJMP has plenty to do already ::)
Harley 8)
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I wouldn't pay that much for something that would need work done to it as soon as you got it, just because of it's age.
Or that could break after 30 seconds you got it! :lol:
But that's a job for MJMP. >:D
I'm sure MJMP has plenty to do already ::)
Harley 8)
It's busy at times ;D
@Rnolan, no the two 9Vac lines comming from the transformer are wired in series in the classic while in the MP-1 they are sort of parallel. That why you have 12V on the heaters in the classic. (with the help of a voltage regulator). So putting in an MDRT could stress out that voltage regulator.
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I wouldn't pay that much for something that would need work done to it as soon as you got it, just because of it's age.
Or that could break after 30 seconds you got it! :lol:
But that's a job for MJMP. >:D
I'm sure MJMP has plenty to do already ::)
Harley 8)
It's busy at times ;D But I always try to help out people by email and my very good friends over here :thumb-up:
@Rnolan, no the two 9Vac lines coming from the transformer are wired in series in the classic while in the MP-1 they are sort of parallel. That why you have 12V on the heaters in the classic. (with the help of a voltage regulator). So putting in an MDRT could stress out that voltage regulator.
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Hey MJMP, I understand :thumb-up: , but you could use (according to you rep parts section) a 220V MP-1 tranny in a classic, at the time I was considering the classic purchase I had MikeBs spare 220V mp-1 tranny (as he went MDRT) so that must be how I was going to make it work here.
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yes the MP-1 and the classic used the same transformer.
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Cool, so Leon could put a MDRT in his MP-1 and use the now spare MP-1 tranny in a US classic (if he bought one). Which was my original plan as back then MikeB had given me his MP-1 trnny after putting in a MDRT. Then he bought a US MP-1 as a spare so I gave it back to him.