MP-1 Gain section

[Harley Hexxe]

I guess that means I'll have to get a MP=1 to modify with the MDRT and see how I feel about it then. I suppose I could always sell it if I didn't like it.

[rnolan]

If you put a MDRT into an MP-1, you definitely won't regret it, trust me, it's chalk and cheese (I was gob smacked how much better it sounded, coz it was already awesome).

[Harley Hexxe]

Mmmmm, but if it's all high end, then it can become shrill. I'm not looking for that

[rnolan]

It's not shrill at all, it just becomes more open and responsive, it doesn't add more tops, just opens up the sound (like an MP2 does). I strongly suspect you'll like it. Quite frankly, I was blown away (and takes a bit to do that).

[Harley Hexxe]

Okay, That's a consideration.

   Keep in mind, my main guitars are stock Strats which are pretty bright to begin with, so keeping the bottom end intact is an important part of the sound.
   While I like what I'm getting with the MP-2, not all of it's sounds are useful to me, and it definitely has it's own character.

[DannyjoeCarter]

Wow thank you all for sharing your views, very insightful!
Makes me think to maybe hold off on this kind of mod just yet. But this where an A/B comparison would really come into play.
For me I will try and find one with the MDRT already in it and do a side by side to really hear and feel it for myself.  ;)
 

[MarshallJMP]

Actually the MDRT gives more bottom end and not so much high end. Altough the low end is harder to hear due to the mic used.

Listen to this clip  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRSuATPcsWs

[Harley Hexxe]

Hey MJMP,

   Those are 3TM modded MP-1's. It's all distortion so it's harder to tell. What would really speak volumes about the difference would be a comparison between a stock MP-1 and a MDRT mod on clean settings

[rnolan]

Hey Harley, Mike did pre and post examples when he did his MDRT upgrade (http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=1524.msg15163#msg15163).  His is a stock v1 MP-1 with just the standard mods (rear jack, noise mod, v2.01 EPROM, stock (new) tube board).

[Harley Hexxe]

Hey Richard,
   Okay, I can hear what you're saying now. It opened up the upper midrange of the guitar a lot more which I can hear on the clean tracks. The bass is still there but gets buried a bit more by the mid frequencies. I would cut back on the Presence and Mids to balance that out.
   On the dirty and distortion tracks, I hear a distinct change. The overdrive has changed to more of a fuzz-like tone, a lot of sizzle there. I also notice there is a lot more white noise as you add more distortion. You definitely need the noise gate after that mod.

[DannyjoeCarter]

Actually the MDRT gives more bottom end and not so much high end. Altough the low end is harder to hear due to the mic used.

Listen to this clip  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRSuATPcsWs

Well MarshallJMP it really does make a difference, no doubt about it. Just curious though what power amp and speakers are you using in this video if I may ask? 

[rnolan]

Hey Harley, what Mike found (and I think he said in the thread) was he had to re-do his patches a bit to accommodate the changes. Although so far he hasn't needed a gate.

[Harley Hexxe]

Hey Richard,

    On the last couple of samples with the high gain settings, you can hear a lot of noise in the background. I'm sure Mike is using humbucker equipped guitars for it. If I plugged in a stock Stratocaster, that would be even worse.

[rnolan]

Hey Harley, ahh single coils, life on the edge, but so much more rewarding  >:D .  Mike did the reamp thing (I think) with that recording, I don't think the noise is indicative (more a product of the process and what he had available to do it), he's using his LP Classic *the Mistress).  My assessment though is based on I hear it at my place through one of my split stacks most Friday nights. I don't have many guits with SC PUs but next chance I get I'll try one through his rig and report  :thumb-up:

[Harley Hexxe]

Hey Richard,

     They are quite buzzy with high gain settings, and that is the reason I bought the two dbx 463's I have. The noise would be unacceptable in a live situation. Fortunately, the Classic and MP-2 have the gate built in, but with the MP-1 and 3TM, there's no other way for me.