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[Chamai]

What tubes/patches are you using ? Personally, I've never had an issue with palm muting with MP1/2 (so want to understand better). With '72 Marshall (cranked, they squeal like a banche and you need to palm mute left and right hand LOL, they are different beasts to control, good training though  >:D ).

My main distortion patch.
Bass 0 or 2
Mids -6
Treb 4
Pres 4
Od1 7
Od2 7

I just cant get that low end push. I tried upping the bass and it just gets muddy.

[Systematic Chaos]

Try the Bass at 0, Mids at -2, Treb at 4, Pres at -2, OD1 at 6 and OD2 at 8

[Chamai]

Hey Chamai,

how do you like the Orange cab? I was looking at one of their practice amps but no local stores have one to try out.

i love this cab. but do check out the mesa cabs as well.

for home use, i really prefer 2x12 over a 4x12.

[rnolan]

Hey Chamai, these worked really well for me (in stereo), these are stage vol/tweaked so try them loud  >:D I added a little stereo delay and reverb.

  #   Voice OD1  OD2   M   B  M   T  P   Ch D     R
103   DT    3.8   3.4   4.5  9  6   6 10      100  0.0
109   DT    8.5   8.0   8.0  4 -6   0   0      100  0.0
107   DT    3.8   6.5   6.5  9  2   2   4      100  0.0
102   DT    6.0   5.0   5.5  6  4  -2   8      100  0.0

Others have used an eq (of one sort or another) to get the bass better, there are also some mods that change the centre frequency (lowers it IIRC) and make the bass more usable (with good results), search on eq ?

FX  Quadverb:
Stereo Delay L 120ms/FB 26% R 240ms/FB 36%
Pitch Mode = Stereo Chorus, Squarewave, LFO Sp 01/ depth 63/ pitch FB 37%
Reverb = Chamber1 predelay 74ms/ Rev decay 50/ diffusion 6/ density 7

[finstah]

i love this cab. but do check out the mesa cabs as well.

for home use, i really prefer 2x12 over a 4x12.

I used to have a 1960A, waaaay too much for the house lol. My Bogner cubes are perfect. But I would love to get my hands on an Orange practice amp.

[Dante]

I'm tellin you guys, Thiele Cabinets are the way to go. Put an EVM12L in there and one little box will be as loud and project as much as a 4x12! I'm serious....I tried one of my cabs with a Jackson 4x12 (running 4 V30s) and the Thiele cab sounded just as large as the Jackson.

Now, they do weigh about as much as a small car, so there's that. Funny story: our sound man had never picked up my speaker cabs (that's what I do) until we played in Las Vegas a while back. I got to the club & my gear was already on the stage. First thing he said to me was 'damn your speaker cabs are heavy'   :lol: 

[Chamai]

Hey Chamai, these worked really well for me (in stereo), these are stage vol/tweaked so try them loud  >:D I added a little stereo delay and reverb.

  #   Voice OD1  OD2   M   B  M   T  P   Ch D     R
103   DT    3.8   3.4   4.5  9  6   6 10      100  0.0
109   DT    8.5   8.0   8.0  4 -6   0   0      100  0.0
107   DT    3.8   6.5   6.5  9  2   2   4      100  0.0
102   DT    6.0   5.0   5.5  6  4  -2   8      100  0.0

Others have used an eq (of one sort or another) to get the bass better, there are also some mods that change the centre frequency (lowers it IIRC) and make the bass more usable (with good results), search on eq ?

FX  Quadverb:
Stereo Delay L 120ms/FB 26% R 240ms/FB 36%
Pitch Mode = Stereo Chorus, Squarewave, LFO Sp 01/ depth 63/ pitch FB 37%
Reverb = Chamber1 predelay 74ms/ Rev decay 50/ diffusion 6/ density 7

will try these presents when i get home

thanks!

[Chamai]

Try the Bass at 0, Mids at -2, Treb at 4, Pres at -2, OD1 at 6 and OD2 at 8

sounds really good actually

i find that if i boost the mids over -4, the ada sounds a little harsh and thin

[Systematic Chaos]

Try the Bass at 0, Mids at -2, Treb at 4, Pres at -2, OD1 at 6 and OD2 at 8

sounds really good actually

i find that if i boost the mids over -4, the ada sounds a little harsh and thin

Simple cure to that:
Just do the EQ part of the Mod3.666 .... Let's you fine-tune the EQ/Tone-Stack to your prefs while retaining the MP-1 characteristic gainstructure

[Chamai]

for the first time ive just tried adjusting the depth (without chorus rate) it really helps with the tone a lot. over all sounds rounder and fatter.

just wonder rnolan, any reason why you set 100 depth on all  your patches.

[rnolan]

Hey Chamai, for exactly what your describing, sounds great  >:D , but works better in MP1 than MP2, in MP2 I think the chorus circuit is is a bit more complicated  :dunno: and that setting can tend to flange a bit (although still works well with some patches). But in MP1 I found it just added a very short delay (depth) as chorus is a short delay generally < 40ms so tends to double, fatten, but the rate at 0,0 so no modulation (pitch shift). You could do a similar thing by adding a very short stereo delay less than 40 ms.

I tripped over it many years ago IIRC, with my old MP1 and it just made it all sound so much better and bigger  >:D . So if I didn't need chorus on a patch, I'd add the depth 100 rate 0.0 to fatten it (in stereo)

[Chamai]

I'm tellin you guys, Thiele Cabinets are the way to go. Put an EVM12L in there and one little box will be as loud and project as much as a 4x12! I'm serious....I tried one of my cabs with a Jackson 4x12 (running 4 V30s) and the Thiele cab sounded just as large as the Jackson.

Now, they do weigh about as much as a small car, so there's that. Funny story: our sound man had never picked up my speaker cabs (that's what I do) until we played in Las Vegas a while back. I got to the club & my gear was already on the stage. First thing he said to me was 'damn your speaker cabs are heavy'   :lol:

but for low volumes, they prob don't sound as big as multiple speakers? never heard them before.

[Systematic Chaos]

The commonly used EVM12L needs to be pushed to really shine.
A good alternative for lower vols is the the Boogie 1x12 Wide Body Closed Back Ported cab with either a C90 or V30....
Bogner 1x12 Cubes also sound damn tasty

[finstah]

Bogner 1x12 Cubes also sound damn tasty

not that it's REALLY a fair comparison but one of mine out drove, shined, performed better than my old 1960A. I LOVE these things. Worth every penny.

[Systematic Chaos]

Bogner 1x12 Cubes also sound damn tasty

not that it's REALLY a fair comparison but one of mine out drove, shined, performed better than my old 1960A. I LOVE these things. Worth every penny.

...and not affordable on this side of the pond  :facepalm: :amaze: :crazy:   ;D