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El Chiguete

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issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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Ok so here is my problem:

For example I have a delay with no dry in the signal (everything is perfect), the problem is that if I turn off the delay then the dry signal the feeds the delay passes thru and then I have phasing problem  :facepalm:

How do you guys deal with this?
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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Hey El, this is where it's handy to have a switchable FX loop that turns the signal off (wet or dry or mix of the two).
I have a related situation in my live rig as I've started to use the IPS33 smart shift again, so I feed it from send 3 and return down 2 channels which I then send to main mix and also L to send 1 and R to send 2 (which are Quadverb L/R ins) so when I select a bypass program on IPS I get increase in dry level both in main mix and QV. But I can balance this out.
If you are getting phase issues, you can try inverting the phase of the delay output (but this will also affect the wet delay signal (which you are happy with "perfect")). Alternately you could feed the delay output through an on/off switch, leave the delay wet but switch the signal off when not using it. (not a very elegant solution though is simple). More expensive mixing consoles have a phase reverse switch on each input, also some DI boxes have similar. But test by reversing the +Ve -Ve connections on one end of the lead you use to connect the delay output. If that fixes your problem (and doesn't wreck the wet delay) you could look for a phase inverter. You can by adapter plugs which are wired to phase reverse, probably the easiest way to test without having to re-solder a lead.
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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What delay do you use?I have a kill dry switch on mine,so i only have a wet signal and nothing if bypassed.
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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What delay do you use?I have a kill dry switch on mine,so i only have a wet signal and nothing if bypassed.

Its my Lexicon MPX G2 multieffects processor.
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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Did some reading on the net and found this;
There's no actual "killdry" setting like in the G-Force. You have to set the Global Mix to 100% as well as the effect block mix to 100%. Once both these settings are set, there will be no phasing.
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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Where did you read that?
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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On a site,just googled "lexicon mpx-1 kill dry".
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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Jaja thats the thing.. I have an MPX G2 jeje the MPX-1 doesn't have a preamp and since its just an fx unite it looks like you can do the wet only signal.

WTF it would of been THAT hard for them to have that feature also on the MPX G2???
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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I tought that the mpx-1 shared the same effects as the G2,so i assumed that it would be same.So i guess it's not?
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Re: issue on the wet side of a W/D setup
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Interesting, having a dry kill seems like a sensible option and not hard (I wouldn't have thought) to include but it is unusual, I don't think any of my FX units have the feature.
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