...with your MP-1, of course?
For years I used an Alesis Quadraverb with mine, but sold that when I sold my MP-1.
Having recently reacquired an MP-1, I'm interested in building a rig back up around it. Of course, there are several options, but I'm wondering what people are doing with theirs today?
Rack, pedals or both...throw 'em out here.
Thanks!
Currently I'm using an old ADA Digitizer 4 and a Lexicon MX-200 in loop and an Ibanez UE400 and AD202 in front of my MP-1. I can do everything but a wah/filter with this setup. Unfortunately I have not played live in a long time so I couldn't tell you how that goes over. I just know that it sounds great at home and on the one time that I have recorded with it.
I'm currently using a Zoom G9.2tt effects processor (effects before & after the preamp, MIDI controller) running 4 cable method into the ADA Depot 3TM mod MP-1 preamp. I run the output of the G9.2tt into the effects loop return of a Reverend Goblin 1x10 15 watt combo amp loaded with an Eminence Lil' Buddy hemp cone speaker. Perfect for small venues and the preamp makes it clean, crunchy, or scream. 8)
At home, I'll run the Zoom G9.2tt (effects before preamp only, MIDI controller) > ADA Depot 3TM mod MP-1 preamp > Rocktron Intellifex (100% wet/full stereo) > DMC System Mix Plus > Mackie 1402 VLZ mixer > Mackie MR 5 powered monitors.
Guitar George
I found a Boss GX-700 on Craigslist (I had no idea what it was until I saw the ad) and it's really cool. It's a backup preamp if my ADA Classic ever craps out during a show. The distortion is not fantastic, but it aint terrible either, and it's very responsive to picking attack, so that's cool.
Of course, I don't use that rig for live shows right now...but let's not try to bring logic into a conversation about art :o
Dante...I see you also have a Quadraverb unit, as well. Simple and functional.
In looking at many, many options; I keep finding myself hung up on the POD HD series as a controller/FX option that is way overkill in the preamp regard.
That said; as you mention, this could also serve as a backup option.
Hmmm...???
QuoteDante...I see you also have a Quadraverb unit, as well. Simple and functional.
Yes, but NO noise gate :facepalm:
I used to run a Vox Tonelab LE post preamp and I was never really happy. After some advises I bouth a Lexicon MPX G2 and all that I wanted is there! Pre MP1 and Post MP1 effects in any order that you want with top of the line quality! My advise is: DONT BE INTIMINATED!!! If you know how to operate Windows or anything else that it's based on menus and sub-menus you wont have a problem after going thru the manual.
There are so many options these days. When I bought my quadverb it was the only thing around that did 4 effects at the same time and I was trying to get away from lots of pedals/power supplies etc and simplify my rig. It's been a great unit for many years. I've also got an alesis midiverb 4 which seems very capable although I've not played around with it much. More recently I was given a TC M-One XL which can do 2 effects (eg delay + reverb). It's very nice and is now in my recording rack. I've also heard good things about the TC G Major. Recent posts regarding lexicon devices would indicate they are very good also. I always loved the Lark 224X reverb in the studio (and live), they were the bees knees back when I was learning audio engineering but expensive. Digitech also made some good gear.
I use mostly 80's ADA rack gear.Got quite a big rack and footpedal backed up with 2 marshall stacks.
-Furman
-Crybaby rack version,best wah i ever owned.
-Decimator pro rack G really good noise gate,very quick to respond.
-MP-1 3TM ultra + for all overdrive and distortion sounds
-MP-2 only used for cleans
-TC g force,used for reverbs and delays
-ADA MQ-1 EQ,for some minor tweaks
-ADA digitizer 4,great for chorus sounds
-ADA TFX 4,all analog unit,great flanger
-ADA 2FX,digital unit but has also a great flanger,sounds really analog
-ADA STD-1,again fully analog,my favorite chorus.
-ADA pitchraq for all pitchshifting,sounds really dirty and mean,pure evil >:D
-Rocktron patchmate to switch all effects.
ADA MXC midi pedal with 2 ADA vol pedals and 2 quad switches + all ADA pedals for the 2FX,pitchraq,TFX4 and digitizer.
Stereo signal goes into 2 100W old JMP ('67 plexi,'72 metal face)marshall heads (preamp bypassed) going into 4 marshall cabs with different speakers.
Speakers used,old greenbacks,12GT75's,12G65 and V30's.
2nd rig is a pedal box (mostly boss and mxr) going into 2 marshall 100W master volume heads ('81 JCM800 and a '78 JMP) going into 2 marshall JCM800 cabs with 12G65's.
WOW that is a rack that begs you to show a pic of it!!!
Quote from: El Chiguete on December 26, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
WOW that is a rack that begs you to show a pic of it!!!
+1
I'd certainly love to have a look at that, let alone rip of some fumbly noodling.
:postpics:
I remember when MJMP posted his rig pic last time, it took 2 days to download the page. :thumb-up:
ok the rack and amps
and some more stuff
And last my collection of my power amps and my midi pedal
Well f#ck me MJMP, that's quite an amazing collection of gear :whoohoo!:
What do you take to a small show ?
QuoteWhat do you take to a small show ?
That is the 'small show' rig (ha ha)
You should see what he brings to an Arena!! :amaze:
Quote from: Dante on December 29, 2013, 09:23:16 AM
QuoteWhat do you take to a small show ?
That is the 'small show' rig (ha ha)
You should see what he brings to an Arena!! :amaze:
;D
Missing are the pics of the Roadies.........
Running a Digitech TRS12 through my MP1/Microtube 100. Although,I will say the best tone i ever got from any of the MP1s ive had was with a Digitech GSP21 pro running through it for effects.
I just tried out a Roland GP-8 multi-effect with all my preamps. It is a rack-mounted multi-effect with analog Boss-derived Filter/Comp/OD/Dist/EQ/Phase with digital delay & chorus with full midi control. It works very very well with the MP-1 though I will be using it with my MP-2 until the MP-2's wah sweep problem gets fixed come tax return season. The only problem with the Roland is noise at extreme settings and digital chorus takes the punch out of my tone...but since the MP-1 HAS a good chorus, you can forget about that issue.
Here is some of the stuff I use off and on
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Currently....none besides what the MP-2 offers.
However in the past I have used the BBE 482, Rocktron Hush Super C (does that count as an "effect"?) Rocktron Intellifex, and Rocktron Xpression. All that went away when I decided to downsize my rig.
Though I wouldn't mind finding another Intellifex or Xpression again. I really enjoyed those.
A Lexicon MPX-G2... best unit I've ever used!
Hey McLeanAB it's been a while you don't post... go check the MPX-G2 thread for I question I wrote you :metal:
rocktron replifex
hmmm is it true that a bbe sonic maximizer is a must with rack gear or an ada mp1 for the 80s hair metal / rock sound? 482's seem common in my parts for cheap but i see that the older 422 is popular with the ADA users ..
Got a BBE462 but i never used it alot.
Quote from: gb on January 12, 2014, 07:02:45 AMhmmm is it true that a bbe sonic maximizer is a must with rack gear or an ada mp1 for the 80s hair metal / rock sound?
I wouldn't say it's a "must-have" thing. Of course, things like this are purely subjective so YMMV.
My experience with it was really a love/hate one. Meaning that at first, I loved it. But as time went on, I was liking it less and less....to the point where I hated it and ditched it because was hearing how "artificial" it was making my rig sound didn't sound so good.
But again, it's subjective. A friend of mine ran one in the loop of his Marshall tube head and absolutely loved it. I can say that if you try it and find it isn't for you, there's a pretty good chance you will be able to sell it without taking much of a loss.
Kim has a point,the BBE adds something to your sounds but at the same time takes something away.
Quote from: kawai2g4b on December 22, 2013, 09:47:43 PM
Currently I'm using an old ADA Digitizer 4 and a Lexicon MX-200 in loop and an Ibanez UE400 and AD202 in front of my MP-1. I can do everything but a wah/filter with this setup. Unfortunately I have not played live in a long time so I couldn't tell you how that goes over. I just know that it sounds great at home and on the one time that I have recorded with it.
Hey Kawai just wondering...how does your Digitizer 4 sound with your MP-1? You like it or ? On the other hand.....WOW some of you Guys have some AWESOME RIGS!!! Very nice gear for sure!! Very cool to see how popular & how many use the MP-1 & keep it alive today!! Thanks! Steve \m/
I personally like the Digitizer in the MP-1 effects loop. I think MJMP mentioned earlier about how it has great chorus sounds, and that it does. The Digitizer has a bright edge to it, or at least mine does, which works very well with the MP-1's strengths IMHO. I really dig it, it has a unique character that endears me to it. Just to give you an idea, my rig has one of the "Holy Grail" delays in the Ibanez AD202 (which I LOVE) already connected in and I STILL use the Digitizer more, and not just because of its relative versatility. I would give it a go given the opportunity Mr. RandallRG.
And to add on to MJMP's and Kim's point on the BBE debate, i used to use an Aphex Aural Exciter (with Big Bottom) with my guitar rigs (its the equivalent to the BBE). I found that my sound got broader and more defined, but less punchy. I would rather go with more amp headroom if the opportunity presents itself than go the BBE route. It works in certain situations but not all. On the other hand, it is perfect for modern bass, so it is practically welded to my main bass amp.
Ah typically use my mp-1 straight out of the output into a bbe maximizer set on less than one on the process, and about noon for the lo contour. This runs into an old peavey ten band eq with a small cut in the 500 and 1k bands, and a small boost to the lower frequencies. Some high hiss frequencies are also cut. This runs into an alesis quadraverb set for a big plate verb and small amount of detuning. This runs into a tc alter ego on the tape echo preset, with three echos at about 500ms. Finally ah have a rocktron hush II to help eliminate the hiss. Up front ah just switch in a few different ods and ah have a boss ns2 and a modded phase 90.
Hows the exciter vs the bbe btw?
I should mention that I have never tried the BBEs for any length of time so I cannot give you the most informed opinion between it and the Aphex units. I can tell you that they go about their business in slightly different ways to reach a similar result. The Aphex is a bit more pronounced at the extremes.
Quote from: kawai2g4b on January 19, 2014, 12:10:16 AM
I personally like the Digitizer in the MP-1 effects loop. I think MJMP mentioned earlier about how it has great chorus sounds, and that it does. The Digitizer has a bright edge to it, or at least mine does, which works very well with the MP-1's strengths IMHO. I really dig it, it has a unique character that endears me to it. Just to give you an idea, my rig has one of the "Holy Grail" delays in the Ibanez AD202 (which I LOVE) already connected in and I STILL use the Digitizer more, and not just because of its relative versatility. I would give it a go given the opportunity Mr. RandallRG.
And to add on to MJMP's and Kim's point on the BBE debate, i used to use an Aphex Aural Exciter (with Big Bottom) with my guitar rigs (its the equivalent to the BBE). I found that my sound got broader and more defined, but less punchy. I would rather go with more amp headroom if the opportunity presents itself than go the BBE route. It works in certain situations but not all. On the other hand, it is perfect for modern bass, so it is practically welded to my main bass amp.
Hey Dude well I got very lucky & I found a Digitizer 4 & it's on the way to me (should be here in a few days) so I will give it a go & see how it is. You & Marshall both agree that it's a very good unit! I am sure it will sound Killer with my MP-1. Any "Quick" settings you can give me for it? I like that 80's Metal with a bit of Delay added to it...I am sure you know exactly what I am talking about? Thanks for the info Buddy & I will keep ya posted! \m/
Well, to your point on the 80's delayed metal sound...I really can't help you much there as that is one of the sounds that I really don't like personally so I can't give you pointers to that end. However, set delay at 12ms, sweep depth about 1/3 way up, sweep regen at about halfway up, then set dry and delay levels to taste. You will get a really sweet subtle chorus wobble that sounds spectacular through a slightly dirty amp.
Quote from: kawai2g4b on January 24, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
Well, to your point on the 80's delayed metal sound...I really can't help you much there as that is one of the sounds that I really don't like personally so I can't give you pointers to that end. However, set delay at 12ms, sweep depth about 1/3 way up, sweep regen at about halfway up, then set dry and delay levels to taste. You will get a really sweet subtle chorus wobble that sounds spectacular through a slightly dirty amp.
Awesome! Thanks for the info & I understand if 80's Metal Etc is not exactly your "Taste or Favorite" (LOL) but thanks for giving me a starting point for the unit anyway! As always any Info/Help is always appreciated...\m/
Quote from: kawai2g4b on January 24, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
Well, to your point on the 80's delayed metal sound...I really can't help you much there as that is one of the sounds that I really don't like personally so I can't give you pointers to that end. However, set delay at 12ms, sweep depth about 1/3 way up, sweep regen at about halfway up, then set dry and delay levels to taste. You will get a really sweet subtle chorus wobble that sounds spectacular through a slightly dirty amp.
Hey Dude hows it going? Forgot to ask you...would it be better if I run the Digitizer in the MP-1 Effects Loop or just "Out" from the MP1 & "In" to the Digitizer? I think it will sound better through the Effects Loop....right? If I do run it through the Effects Loop would I run MP-1 "Send" to D4 "Input" & MP-1 "Receive" to D4 "Output"? Thanks for any info Dude! Appreciate it!! :banana-rock:
Hey Steve, best in the MP1 loop from a patching/gain/wet-dry mix perspective but then it won't be sudo stereo (as it has an inverted (B) out, signal wave upside down, not sure how useful that inverted out is so no a big deal).
Quote from: rnolan on January 27, 2014, 08:06:03 PM
Hey Steve, best in the MP1 loop from a patching/gain/wet-dry mix perspective but then it won't be sudo stereo (as it has an inverted (B) out, signal wave upside down, not sure how useful that inverted out is so no a big deal).
Rich hey Buddy would I run it like this....If I do run it through the Effects Loop would I run MP-1 "Send" to D4 "Input" & MP-1 "Receive" to D4 "Output"? Thanks for any info Dude!
Hey Steve, we're cross posting :) , yeah, MP1 eff send to D4 in, D4 out to MP1 eff return, then adjust the send receive level on the MP1. From memory there is one pot (knob) on the back which adjust from instrument level to line level. It's a dual gang pot (adjusts both send/rec at the same time to keep unity gain). So turn it up until the D4 has a good input signal for your loudest patch then adjust the D4 output so it doesn't overload the MP1 receive (I think one of the clip LEDs monitors the loop ?) turn the D4 mix level (wet to dry) to full wet and adjust the patch to have the amount of effect you want.
Cheers R
Personally, I use it in the loop because I want to leave the stereo out to the MP-1 so that I can have a true stereo chorus with the MP-1's on-board chorus. To me it is an either/or scenario and I would rather have the MP-1 chorus in stereo than the Digitizer, as I mainly use that for delay and that aforementioned chorus patch. It is really up to preference on which you want to feature.
Hey RandallRG, a bit of cheap inspiration had led me to another use for the Digitizer. If you get the FS-2 or equivalent footswitch and plug it in, you will have floor access to a delay hold function and redundant bypass. The hold acts as a loop timed to the delay time setting so you can get up to 1 sec of looping. I decided to unleash this while jamming to Pantera's "Primal Concrete Sledge" so that I could play a solo over the main riff. If you do try to find the footswitch, I do believe that there is a company with new FS-2 replacement switches on eBay.
Now that does sound like a good idea, I wonder, can you tap time the delay with the FS2 as well ?
You can...in a way. My digitizer has the DS-4 and FS-2 knock off footswitches mated to it. The only deal is that you have to program in the delay times ahead of time and switch between the programs and banks to get the desired delay time. One you switch programs, you can hit the hold button and get your "tap tempo" function. As you will understand, this has advantages and disadvantages. You really have to rehearse well with a drummer so that those limitations will not jump out live. If you want tap tempo, the best thing to do would be to get a second, different-sounding delay with tap tempo just for that purpose. Nothing is impossible though.
Very cool info Kawai2g4b! Appreciate the info Dude. I have to say....I have had my Digitizer for a week or two & this unit is Killer! Some of the factory "Pre-Sets" in it sound great! There is alot of room to do some "Tweaking" & I have found some great sounding Delays Etc! Now with my Digitizer & my Morley "Bad Horsie 2 Wah" along with my "MP-1"...I am right back in my 80's M-E-T-A-L Dude....with ease! :metal:
Hey Dudes hows it going? Just a quick question..At the moment I am running my MP-1>ADA Digitizer4. I am getting a BBE 462 to try. Would the BEST way to run it be....my MP-1>BBE>D4? This is how I was going to try it? Thanks for any info! :metal:
Dude, I am glad you like it! This unit was quite the surprise to me once I fired it up. Were you able to find the DS-4 foot switch? If you can get one cheap, I would go for it.
Quote from: kawai2g4b on February 19, 2014, 10:40:54 PM
Dude, I am glad you like it! This unit was quite the surprise to me once I fired it up. Were you able to find the DS-4 foot switch? If you can get one cheap, I would go for it.
Yeah Bud this unit is SAWEEEEEEET! (LOL!) It really has some Killer Sounds/Tones & Delays Etc! Like I said along with my Bad Horsie Wah & my "MP-1"....I am right back in my 80's M-E-T-A-L with ease!! I have not found a Foot Switch yet but they are available on E-Bay. I will get one soon but for right now I am just jamming in the House so all is good right @ my fingertips! Take it easy Dude! By the way....What's your name? Steve :metal:
I've been using a Digitech TSR12 for fx and tone-shaping EQ for my MP-1 for over a decade, and I can't imagine life without either one :thumb-up:
Well my BBE 462 showed up & all I can say about it is that I like it....it sounds cool. Yeah some say it sounds kind of "Processed" Etc I already knew that it will add some "Highs"/"Treble" Etc to your sound (which it does) but if you don't go to crazy with the "Process" knob it's not to bad (If you do it will put you in "High Tinny" Heaven!) LOL! Keep the "Lo Contour" knob around the Noonish' area or so (or earlier) position & you will not get that "Muddy" sound. All in all the 462 does its job like it's suppose to. It adds some "Character" for sure! :metal:
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Hey Steve...this is probably just what you need. Price isn't too bad either. By the way, the name is Mitch.
Quote from: kawai2g4b on February 24, 2014, 11:28:11 AM
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Hey Steve...this is probably just what you need. Price isn't too bad either. By the way, the name is Mitch.
Hey Mitch! Thanks man....I already checked out that ad! (LOL!) :metal:
This guy uses a POD HD500 with the MP1. Guitar > POD in > PODFX send > MP1 in > MP1FX send > PODFX ret > POD out > MP1FX ret > MP1 out. Big mess on stage cable-wise, but mega versatile.
Interesting way of patching it, IMHO it would be easier just putting the pod in the MP1 loop.
My rig:
Gibson SG Standard -> ADA MP-1 tube preamp -> H&K RedBok MKIII cabinet simulator -> BOSS SE-50 effects -> PC
:)
http://www.riffworld.com/Members/zsoli/emrocktude
Hey Zsoli, nice :thumb-up: , a suggestion, I'd try running the cab sim in the MP1's loop (although you may ? have to use a XLR female to TR 1/4" jack lead for the loop return) and then stereo (i.e. MP1 outs A/B > SE-50 ins L/R, SE-50 outs L/R > PC line ins L/R) into the SE-50, will give you the MP1 in stereo, not mention the Mp1's stereo chorus.
Rocktron Replifex. These are good and quit.
Quote from: rnolan on March 19, 2014, 08:59:02 PM
Interesting way of patching it, IMHO it would be easier just putting the pod in the MP1 loop.
I line it up that way to get pre and post MP1 effects. Comp, dist, wah, pitch, and gates in front...mods, delays, verbs, and more gates in the rear.
I get where you're coming from, watch out for you're gain structure though...
Here's my rack minus the decimator.
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Pedalboard
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Bogner Cubes
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I only see the pedal?BTW that pedal board needs some paint,may i suggest ADA blue :P
:thumb-up:
Quote from: MarshallJMP on March 25, 2014, 03:28:41 PM
I only see the pedal?BTW that pedal board needs some paint,may i suggest ADA blue :P
:thumb-up: :thumb-up: :thumb-up: ;D
For right now, Rocktron Xpression in the loop for delay and reverb and all the usual in the loop effects. I normallykeep an MXR Phase 90, Dunlop 535Q, Analogman Tube Screamer, and OCD in front of the amp. And TC Electronic Polytune 2.
I'm using a Digitech GSP1101. Has some nice effects and is very transparent. I originally got it because it allows an option of running an external preamp in its loop, so that you can create presets using the GSP internal preamp sims or an external preamp on a per-patch basis. I've read of people having great results with this setup, but there are a few amps and preamps for which this does not work well. Unfortunately, my 3TM is one of those :( . So, I'm running the GSP in the loop of the 3TM... sort of. It turns out that actually using the MP-1 loop send/return with the GSP sucks a lot of drive out of the amp, so instead I'm feeding the GSP input from the MP-1 output rather than from the loop send, and then sending the GSP output directly to my power amp (Peavey Classic 50/50).
~ Rick
The MP1 loop is tricky, and now 3TM there's lots more gain, if you balance the in/out of your GSP and get it right with the loop (serial, dual ganged pot, +ve increases input, decreases output, -ve the opposite). The Mp1 loop is designed to be unity gain (e.g. 1v out (send), 1v in (rtn) etc.) but the device you plug into it has it's own gain structure (input/output and effects). So you have to balance it all, rule of thumb... the overall level shouldn't change with loop in or out so adjust the effect in/out on external device accordingly (start with ada loop send knob at 12 o'clock)
I just bought an older G-Major. It's in good shape and seems to work well. I'm still learning it. I also picked up a BBE Sonic Maximizer 362 for $30 shipped. Waiting to receive that one still.
There's a few posts about combining a G Mag so you incorporate it in parallel not serial (do a search, worth a read) my angle on it is keep your MP1/2 analougue all the wat to the amp/cabs, BBE some like them, I've never tried one or felt the need... but basic principles, if it A/D's your signal (as does a G Maj BTW, the inputs are converted to digital (so there goes your analogue signal...)), mix it in in parallel, don't chain/serial through it.