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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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    This is true. Maybe they were using only one side, or the speakers wattage was high...like 75-100 watt speakers. I find higher watt speakers "swallow tone". My MP-1 was almost going to be sold until I ran the rig through one 50 watt Celestion Alnico Gold....wow! I was listening to the Jake E Lee isolated track of Bark At The Moon, then went and played through preset channel 3 and was like...nailed it! Never going back to ceramic, and I'm gonna load that old blue Crate cab up with Scumnicos when I can afford it. I bet a T100s through four 30 watt Scumback Scumnicos in stereo would just slay! ...but I don't have the cash to undertake that project.
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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Hey Vox G2,

    I guess that is true with Celestion speakers that they need to be driven to get the kind of sound everyone wants. I believe there is a fine line to how much you want to drive them though since too much can make them sound muddy.
   But I don't believe that holds true with all speakers though. Some speakers will sound great with only about 1/3 of their power rating driving them.
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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   Yeah true...I wonder what the T100s deal with not cutting is? Interesting.
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  Oh wait a sec...I thought you were saying the T100S doesn't cut through. Oh yeah, I can see the 20/20 not cutting through with a powerful full band. Just cause it's only 20 a side.
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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Something to keep in mind, higher wattage speakers are less efficient as are lower impedance (eg 4 ohm) speakers.
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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   I can see that too. My new favorite speakers are 16ohm low watt Alnico speakers, both Scumback and Celestion. The highs and high mids just ring like a bell. I haven't heard the 65 watt Scumnico, cause I couldn't afford it...had to settle for a used Celestion Gold, but I bet it is just as killer as my 30w Scumnico. That speaker is money. I would love to hear the ADA rig cranked in stereo through a pair of those 65 watters.
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  Oh wait a sec...I thought you were saying the T100S doesn't cut through. Oh yeah, I can see the 20/20 not cutting through with a powerful full band. Just cause it's only 20 a side.

   That's my point. 20 watts a side, 40 watts in stereo, and a tube amp to boot! It should cut through.
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Something to keep in mind, higher wattage speakers are less efficient as are lower impedance (eg 4 ohm) speakers.

   Not all speakers are like that, case in point; JBL and Altec speakers are very high wattage speakers, but still sound great with lower wattage power amps.
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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  Oh yeah...I had a pair of JBLs that I sorely regret getting rid of. It could be the stock "required(lol)" Mesa tubes. Doing the bias mod on that amp and going NOS EL84 (Saratov, Matsushita, etc) with 80s Beijing 12AX7 drivers could work wonders for that issue.
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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I thought those Mesa amps had a bias adjustment built in to the amp panel
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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  I didn't know that, but that would be nice!
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I'm not sure if Mesa has that, but I have seen it on a lot of power amps
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