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DorsetRatt

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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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This may help ...

I've been using a 9005 power amp since about 1989/90'ish when they first came out. Great tone IMHO, I've had it paired with several preamps over the years, and it's always delivered the goods ... ada mp-1, ada mp-2, marshall 9001, soldano sp-77, etc.

I sold my first 9005 to get a 9100 ... at the time I considered it to be an upgrade (I'd spent too long looking at glossy photos of the jmp-1, jfx and 9100 in magazine adverts). The 9100 was a good power amp, but to my ears it sounded a bit too tight and modern, whereas the 9005 sounded warmer/vintage (and complemented the mp-1 very well). So I sold the 9100 and bought another 9005 :thumb-up: I've still got, and it gets used nearly every day (but only at home volume nowadays).

Note: The 9100 had the 5881 valves, whereas the 9005 runs el34's, perhaps this may explain why I prefer the sound of the 9005.

The 9005 is big, and heavy, but I think it's worth it for the tone. I have the 9005 in its own dedicated 4u rack case, with my other preamps/processors in a 6u rack case which sits on top.

IMHO having good valve tone in a power amp is a key ingredient, it adds another piece to the overall sound. I like the characteristics ... insert appropriate words here ... sag/compression, dynamics, touch, feel, warmth, bloom, etc. Find the sweet spot (the old school reaction) and it's awesome!
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Harley Hexxe

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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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Yeah Tomy,

    I thought it was too but I wasn't certain. One thing I do know is those aluminum cones are great for bass, but they suck the tone from a guitar amp. Old vintage bass amps sound great with a guitar, but they have the paper cones.

     Harley 8)
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VHT 2/50/2 with a 3TM MP-1  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0KT8qkJFF8

Cheers  :metal:
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Well well ,look who's back the dukester of metal, hey Duke long time no see my brother !!!
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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Oh yeah Duke :thumb-up:

    I think I'll be looking for one of those in the future

       Harley 8)
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Well well ,look who's back the dukester of metal, hey Duke long time no see my brother !!!
What's Up Brotha?  Hope all is well.

I am getting back into the music stuff lately.  Playing more and more.  Trying to find local Jam scenes and possibly a group to jam with.
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Oh yeah Duke :thumb-up:

    I think I'll be looking for one of those in the future

       Harley 8)
Cheers Buddy.  Hope all is well.  :canadian-flag-banana-smiley-e
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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Hey welcome back Duke!!!  :canadian-flag-banana-smiley-e
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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Well Duke, I'm glad you're back !!
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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Well Duke, I'm glad you're back !!

+1 It's good to see you back here Duke :thumb-up:

     I'm hanging in there!

           Harley  8)
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Hey welcome back Duke!!!  :canadian-flag-banana-smiley-e
Holy man..  Kim, whats up buddy.  been ages since we spoke.  hope all is well with you.

Anything new and exciting?
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Although it could be argued that the MP-1 sounds good thru any amp, it has a wide range EQ section, the power amp/speaker furthers the definition. I use a few options and they're on a switch, giving one button access. They all sound great, but each power amp is voiced differently. The Mesa rack amps are certainly Mesa sounding. What a hail of tight focused punches. But, as you can guess, it is tone starved, lifeless, sterile for singing leads. I have run every speaker except Blues with it, but settled as shown. To move away from Mesa, I tried the Peavey EL84 tubes, this amp shapes very well with presence/resonance control. It is probably the most versatile. The Marshall, is glorious for higher frequency, full midrange, full sound and very versatile with speakers, but the low end drops right off. Dukes VHT clips are down right inspirational, and have been for many years. Great to see you again Duke.

As a side note, the 2:100 is the amp designed for the Rec Pre, it has special modes that can be switched with a momentary remote, introducing the modern mode, which is a bass boost/mid scoop. Combining the two recreates two Dual Rec (diode) amps. Using the MP-1 with it works best to switch the relay to modern for rhythm, and vintage for solos. This amp can prove difficult without that ability to switch the relay. There is no switch on the amp, only a remote.

The Peavey EL84 Classic 50/50 can shape sounds, but lacks the overall brightness of both the Marshall and the Mesa. It is guilty of always sounding warm. Not necessarily a bad thing.

For cleans the Rec Pre is best preamp I have, overbuilt, heavy duty, good at all levels.
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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That's very useful info Slimjim,

     That tells me the Mesa 2:100 would be better off with the MP-2 instead of the MP-1 or the Classic. As far as tube power amps go, so far the only one that seems like it might give me what I'm looking for with the Classic is the 2/50/2. I see them come up on ebay every now and then, but I'm not in a hurry. I can still use the ADA's I have until I'm ready to take the plunge. Right now, my priority is to get my recording set up going so I can get some tracks down, and get some music happening with what I have.

     Thanks for the heads up :thumb-up:
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Re: ADA Monster Rig
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   I suppose 2 T100s, but I too am curious about the Mesa 20/20 Dyna-Watt!
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Hey VoxG2,

     I was thinking about one of those too, but I've read in another forum about how they just don't cut through in a band situation. I saw several posts referencing that point.
     That seems a bit odd to me, considering how lately there seems to be a lot of low powered amps on the market which appears to be the popular trend these days, I can't help but wonder did Mesa make a super weak poweramp, or are these guys' drummers just too loud? After all, this is two 20 watt power amps which amounts to almost 40 watts combined, and it still can't get in the mix? I can use my 40 watt Fender Vibrolux Reverb 2x10 combo in a bar band setting, and it can be too loud for the club, so hiow does the Mesa not cut through? :???:
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