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Title: Dating an MP-1
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 14, 2016, 02:05:59 PM
Well today I was fixing an MP-1 and I don't know why I didn't think of this before but there's a way to use the date codes on the IC's to get a pretty accurate reading when you're MP-1 or any other device was made.
Most manufacturers put date codes on their IC's. If you find the youngest date and add a month or 2 you'll be in the ballpark of the manufacturing date.Now some use obscure date codes some use the plain codes.

For instance on the Z80 cpu for example you can read 9306 which means it's made in 1993 6th week.
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: Dante on June 14, 2016, 02:08:36 PM
Cool!

I guess that would be handy for celebrating the birthday of your preamp  :banana-upsidedown:
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 14, 2016, 03:01:25 PM
Yep good idea, we even can have a few beers with the unit to celebrate  :lol:
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 15, 2016, 06:34:41 AM
Just don't give the preamp any beer, it doesn't hold it's liquor very well :D

     Harley 8)
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: Dante on June 15, 2016, 10:07:54 AM
Yep good idea, we even can have a few beers with the unit to celebrate  :lol:

Well, they're old enough to drink
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 15, 2016, 10:35:22 AM
Yep good idea, we even can have a few beers with the unit to celebrate  :lol:

Well, they're old enough to drink

Yes they are but I would wait until after the gig to get it drunk  >:D
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: MikeB on June 17, 2016, 09:37:57 PM
OK.  So mine says 8745.  If I add a couple of months then we are looking at early 1988.  When did they start making the mp1?
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: MikeB on June 17, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
Just pulled out the old transformer ready to install the MDRT (yay, at last!!) and I've found a sticker on it that says 16th of November 1988.  So not early 1988 after all.  The Z80 must have been sitting around for a bit longer than 2 months then.
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 18, 2016, 04:06:27 AM
Yes it could be but you have to take a look at all the date codes on the chips and take the youngest one and add a few months to that. I know it's not an exact science but it will get you close. It all depends how long the parts are sitting on the shelf waiting to get used.
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 18, 2016, 08:09:28 AM
The MP-1 was first introduced at the NAMM show in January of 1987. It was the hottest new item at the NAMM that year and blew all the other Amp makers away!

   Harley 8)
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: tomy on June 18, 2016, 09:13:05 AM
The MP-1 was first introduced at the NAMM show in January of 1987. It was the hottest new item at the NAMM that year and blew all the other Amp makers away!

   Harley 8)

Were you there harley ?
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: vansinn on June 18, 2016, 09:20:32 AM
Oh yeah!  I've often thought of dating an MP..
Checking date codes (preferably before usage) is as always problematic without actually opening up before usage.
And I really find those MP's very Namm Namm..
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: rnolan on June 19, 2016, 04:29:49 AM
That was my first thought when MJMP posted the topic, I'm thinking take my MP2 on a date, then I read the post LoL...

So the Intel 8051H CPU in one of my MB1s is 1987.  My Anderson was made for that same NAMM show it's a 1987 build.
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 19, 2016, 08:08:02 AM
@ tomy, No, I wasn't there. I just remember the buzz at all the music shops about how they were all waiting for the new MP-1 preamp and B200S poweramp that year. I had already begun building effects racks that year, using Gallien-Kruger for pre and power amps because they had effects loops. The dealers who knew me and what I was up to, kept telling me about the new preamp that ADA had come out with, and that I would love it. They were right.

@ Richard, I don't believe the MB-1 was introduced until the following year, it may not have been introduced until 1989 for that matter since ADA had their hands full trying to keep up with the orders for the MP-1. That little preamp changed the way everyone looked at amplifiers in 1987.

  Harley  8)
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: rnolan on June 20, 2016, 06:48:20 AM
Hey Harley, I suspect you are correct.  They probably use the same CPU Zialog Z80.

I bought one of the first MP1s to come into Australia (same when the MP2 came out), I was just blown out how great it was, also a B200s and a Quadverb and an 8 channel mixer, converted my Yamaha quad box to stereo  :whoohoo!:
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: PrimalScream91 on June 27, 2016, 11:05:49 AM
I've been trying to date my MP-1 as well, I've got different numbers. In one place I see "2/87," and others start with 89. But up in the right hand corner, printed on the board reads:

MP-1  2-88
680075
Rev. E
asmbly 780OO2

So I'm not entirely sure about it.
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: MarshallJMP on June 27, 2016, 11:21:23 AM
You always have to take the youngest date you can find on the IC's.

The print on the pcb (last pic) doesn't matter for dating the mp-1.
Title: Re: Dating an MP-1
Post by: Harley Hexxe on June 27, 2016, 02:34:11 PM
You always have to take the youngest date you can find on the IC's.

The print on the pcb (last pic) doesn't matter for dating the mp-1.

Agreed. Just like trying to date a Fender Stratocaster, always use the newest date code to get the closest final assembly date.

   Harley 8)