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Miscellaneous => Recording - Studio Talk => Topic started by: El Chiguete on September 13, 2014, 06:31:22 PM

Title: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: El Chiguete on September 13, 2014, 06:31:22 PM
Ok so I think I have a good idea on how to run my rig but I now need a LOAD BOX so because I will probably be using the ADA GCS-3 (most of the time in my home I will be using the GCS-3 without the speaker simulation but when recording or playing live might be usefull) but it still needs to be connected to a speaker, so I need a load box to make it work. Any advise?

The idea of this combined setup is to run the direct post tube poweramp tone to a RJM Mini Line Mixer and combine it with stereo effects and then to a transparent poweramp and then to the speakers.
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: GuitarBuilder on September 14, 2014, 12:24:05 PM
This is what the pros use:

http://www.palmer-germany.com/mi/en/PDI-03-Speaker-Simulator-with-Loadbox-16-Ohms-PDI03L16.htm (http://www.palmer-germany.com/mi/en/PDI-03-Speaker-Simulator-with-Loadbox-16-Ohms-PDI03L16.htm)

On the other hand, I wonder what it is you're trying to accomplish; if your signal chain end is stereo effects/power amp with speakers, you don't want to put another power amp/cab simulator/load box before that.  It's just going to be a huge mess.
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: Systematic Chaos on September 14, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
Ever thought about the "Monstercab"?......µCab rebuilt to µCab II specs with internal speaker load.....
MJMP offers these on his homepage......
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: El Chiguete on September 14, 2014, 01:38:39 PM
On the other hand, I wonder what it is you're trying to accomplish; if your signal chain end is stereo effects/power amp with speakers, you don't want to put another power amp/cab simulator/load box before that.  It's just going to be a huge mess.

Thats why I only want to take the tone after the poweramp section of the amp and take it down to line level so I can then add effects and then send it to the clean poweramp and to the speakers, so no cab simulation would take place in a live. The ADA GCS-3 alloys me to do that and switch on or off the cab simulation... I still need to add a load to the amps poweramp so I will get something like this to do the trick http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-OHM-300W-Non-Inductive-High-Power-Resistor-300-Watts-/130696698614?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1e6e215af6 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-OHM-300W-Non-Inductive-High-Power-Resistor-300-Watts-/130696698614?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1e6e215af6)
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: El Chiguete on September 14, 2014, 01:41:27 PM
Ever thought about the "Monstercab"?......µCab rebuilt to µCab II specs with internal speaker load.....
MJMP offers these on his homepage......

If the Microcabs II had a Line Out jack with no speaker simulation I would get it ASAP but they dont.
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 15, 2014, 12:58:12 PM
The MC II can do that,you can turn the cab sim on and off.
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: El Chiguete on September 15, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
ohh... so how do you do that?
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: El Chiguete on September 15, 2014, 02:50:34 PM
BTW, we need a setion with all the manuals so we can download them. I want to chack the Microcab II manual now for this.
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: GuitarBuilder on September 15, 2014, 07:46:34 PM
Here you go... :banana:

Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: El Chiguete on September 15, 2014, 08:26:52 PM
The MC II can do that,you can turn the cab sim on and off.

I just read the manual but my question now is: when you press the ¨In/Out¨ botton do you switch the cab simulation on and off from the line level outputs? This will meen that the THRU jacks are allways sending signal?
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: GuitarBuilder on September 16, 2014, 09:05:17 AM
In/Out takes cab simulation in or out of the circuit; like a buffered bypass.

Pass Thru is directly connected to the Input jack, so it is exactly what it says - passes the input through.
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: El Chiguete on September 16, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
In/Out takes cab simulation in or out of the circuit; like a buffered bypass.

So when in ¨OUT¨ the outputs just have the same signal as the THRU just that at line level or mic level?
Title: Re: Load box to capture the amps speaker out tone and not use a speaker
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 16, 2014, 12:05:57 PM
In/Out takes cab simulation in or out of the circuit; like a buffered bypass.

So when in ¨OUT¨ the outputs just have the same signal as the THRU just that at line level or mic level?

Yep that's correct.