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Non ADA Gear => Guitars => Topic started by: rnolan on March 29, 2016, 08:04:41 AM
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Ok so I just decided to plug in 3 guitars in a row just for the fun of it.... Same patch (my MP2 rhythm patch)
Started with Epiphone SG (has 2 Gibson 57 reissue PUs and all new hardware, and neck profiled ala Anderson (vneck) (I need to get this changed to resemble JPLP neck contour, works much better)). So through MP2, into studio monitors... fun.... Then went with Squire Strat upgrade, also quite enjoyable (nice bottom end BTW), SD PUs (little 59 and Hot rails) singing very well, then I plugged in the Anderson proam with Ultrasonics, melt me albeit they were a bit more middy than the SDs in the squire (which surprised me a little), but crap it's such a nice guitar to play and sings like a banchey (and basswood body...).
So a comment I would make at this point... You can take a cheap and cheerful guitar and turn it into a much better instrument (eg Epiphone SG and Squire Strat), and I've done this quite a few times, but a really good, well made (and typically quite expensive guitar) is actually worth it :thumb-up: . The Anderson ProAm and the Custom Shop JPLP are just sooo special. If you can afford something like this, all I can say is typically it's worth it...
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I agree whole heartedly. I played a second hand £70 guitar at my last gig and people told me my sound was great!! It probably cost about £200 brand new 12 years ago! I have only made one upgrade to this guitar, I put in a Dimarzio Super Distortion. Believe it or not the locking trem is a licenced one. It stays in tune enough for me (not with upward bend use which I never use anyways). The saddles on this guitar are cheap pot metal! I have not upgraded them yet, but I intend to! However I have made the upgrades before and made the guitars worse so I am really thinking hard about swapping the saddles out for steel saddles.
I upgraded another Squier recently. I took off the Floyd Rose II, hard to explain what floyd rose II that was on there as there have been several types through the years, some good and some bad. I think mine is the one made in the schaller factory as it's nearly Identical. Anyways I put an actual schaller on this other squier and it was steel throughout. I also then put in a dimarzio super distortion. Well what can I say??? It sounds like shit. Very thin sounding guitar. No body to the sound. It's bizarre as it now weighs a tonne with a bigger sustain block in there etc and all steel hardware but it's lacking in the low end and I dunno what to do. I thought the dimarzio would have helped. I might try a different pickup and see if it makes a difference. I've a dimarzio D' Activator X I might try instead. Real shame as this guitar has a lovely neck, nice unique finish and control configuration (only two knobs). This is the only cheap guitar I have upgraded that doesn't sound great.
Other cheap guitars I own are upmarket squiers that where more expensive back in the day when first released but they didn't become to popular and then the models were canceled. You can get these now from anywhere between £80-£200. The guitars I'm talking about are the Squier Stagemasters and Squier Showmasters. The thru neck Stagemasters, I've not upgraded as their pickups to me sound fine and their locking trems are also fine. One of the Stagemasters I own I put on a brand new trem, purely because the old one was worn out with so much use.
Basically I agree as does my local luthier who buys cheap guitars and does them up! I don't think I could spend £1000 on a guitar and I don't think I ever will!!
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Hey RG and for the most part I totally agree with you, I've been doing up cheap and cheer fulls for a very long.. time. However, there is a marked difference when you go to the really expensive guitars, are they worth it ?, up to the individual, are they better, absolutely :thumb-up: , is the extra cost worth it ? well again up to the individual, what I can say is they are way better guitars :thumb-up: Can you make a cheep and cheerful play reasonably well, yes you can, but it will never be an Anderson or a Gibson custom shop JPLP etc..
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HAHA you're back tracking a little Richard, you sound like in the beginning you can make cheap guitars as good as £1000 guitars.
I can't agree with you then as I don't believe £1000 guitar is gonna sound any better in relation to the price to quality ratio. I've never played a £1000 guitar yet that I didn't have something I wanted to change about it so for me it's not worth it. Up to individuals again but I'd rather buy a cheaper axe and customise. I bet you £1000 you couldn't tell the difference between a cheap guitar that was upgraded and a stock £1000 guitar. I can't test you with any of my axes because none cost £1000. The Westone in it's condition is probably the most expensive I own. It's may be £500-£600
And to boot, I never bought cheap guitars on purpose, I just happened gambled on some models and the gambles paid off. It pays to research I guess as well and see what has been said about guitars that are cheap but people get good results out of them. Initially my wallet dictated the first few guitars I ever bought, but some of those are now my most expensive lol like my Tokai Flyinv V and Mexican strat.
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I'm on board with this concept
Once I got my first cheapo strat (Indonesian Squire with a very nice neck), I started wiring up my own guitars. After that, I started hunting down mid-range guitars for their better wood construction and cheap ass parts. Just replace the parts and you have a screaming guitar for a LOT less.
My goldtop is a perfect example. It cost me $350 with a case. I upgraded the pickups (SD Jazz/JB), pots (push/pull coil splitting), locking tuners, Tusq nut, and just for fun, a Stetsbar tremolo. That thing is MONEY
My flying V cost (again) $350. I upgraded the pickups, pots, jack and switch. It's a monster and I don't have to watch it like a hawk at gigs. Nobody is going to walk off with an Epi V...maybe if it was a Gibby. Plus, my Epiphone logo chipped off or something, it's now a Cphiphone ;D
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Hey RG, well sort of back tracking, I've only ever bought 2 really expensive guitars (Anderson and JPLP), all the rest are cheap guitars which I then did up. Although this can get a bit expensive depending on the parts you put on. Though you seem to be pretty adept at getting really good deals on things :thumb-up: . The Squire strat is the first upgrade job I've done in ages and it was fun to do and turned out quite well (for what it is). So a 1000 GBP guitar = a $2000 (ish) AUD guitar. These aren't what I was alluding to, more the $7000 and up sorts of things that are particularly special (many of them aren't though IMHO).
And Dante raises a very salient point re having very expensive guitars at gigs, apparently Sweet used to use cheap guitars on the road because they kept on being stolen (and I'm sure they aren't alone).
I also agree that even with very expensive guitars you may want to change somethings (unless you went for a custom build and specified everything). E.g. I'm not particularly enamored with the "Burst Bucker" in the bridge of the JPLP, the 59 PAF in the neck pos I quite like. Do I change out the burst bucker ? Anyway, buying that guitar was a total anomaly, partly because of what it is, how pretty the top is but I wouldn't have bought it if the neck hadn't been shaved, I love the contour and feel of it but in general, I don't like gibson necks (bit like baseball bats to me, but I know many do like them, each to their own...).
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Plus, my Epiphone logo chipped off or something, it's now a Cphiphone ;D
:lol:
I agree with you Dante completely.
Another thing that I have to add, I think customizing a cheaper or more affordable axe is something that suits me, as I want the guitar to be my own, just set for me. I could never play a signature axe for example, even from my favourite players like K.K. Downing or Glenn Tipton. This is just me but it might help understand why doing up a less expensive guitar makes more sense for me. Of course I discovered this by accident as it was my wallet that dictated the price of my first guitar (a Korean Squier from 1996).
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Hey, I like that thread... Some of you who have checked my post on "axe pics" know that I have a nice cool collection. But I got those instruments for my personal pleasure most of all. Some People collect cars...Some others collect stamps...Myself, It's guitar,bass,ada stuff... etc.
But, I have to confess : my main instruments are the cheap ones for different good reasons :
-first, I afforded it a long time ago with the few money I had at that time
-second, I had to customized it to make it sound my way, and I'm still surprised how easy it is to get the tone in recording situation while it's hard sometime with expensive instruments.
-third, like Dante, being a hawk at gig... noway!
-fourth, 'cause I just feel confortable with it.
My main guitar is a ibanez s5XX...whatever number 350$+sh4/tb4
My main bass is a yamaha attitude standard 250$+emg preamp
I never thought about selling it, because there is no money to make with. It's only sentimental value.
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That's cool Tomy! :thumb-up:
You know when I play a gig sometimes and some guy in another band will come up to me and look at my guitar to see what I'm playing, then quickly walk away when they see it's a Squier! That attitude kills me lol
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That's cool Tomy! :thumb-up:
You know when I play a gig sometimes and some guy in another band will come up to me and look at my guitar to see what I'm playing, then quickly walk away when they see it's a Squier! That attitude kills me lol
Hey RG, your tokai flying V and your Westone maybe not expensive, but are really rare, and sound killer for sure.
I have something more to say : my Dad never was aware of the differences between a guitar and a bass,mandoline, banjo..., he is no musician and during 25 years he didn't care about my hobby.
Last year, I went to visit my parents. My Dad came with an old cheap copy of precision bass and offered me as little gift (50$).
But then I realize :
-it took me couple of day working to get enough money to afford my most expensive instrument.
-But it took me 25 years to get that 50 bucks bass, and that why I love this bass
It sounds good, it plays pretty well... and once in a while, I use it on stage :thumb-up:
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Well the westone would be one of my most expensive guitars. It's rare and collectible and also in really good condition and all original. I really need to pot the pickup on that guitar.
The Tokai Flying V would be somewhere in between that and my cheapest guitars, it's a really well made guitar. I still have original pickups in as well, keep thinking about putting a DP100 in there. I upgraded the tuners and Bridge.
They cost about this much http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/222046912983?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=1007282&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-131843263986&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=122 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/222046912983?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=1007282&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-131843263986&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=122)
There is a made in Jap version which is about £900. I can't afford that lol So the FV40 is about the same as a mexican strat. Mind you a mexican strat will cost more with an FR on there, like mine did.
I have this bass!! I love it!! If I could get a pickup to fit it I would may be upgrade. I have no knowledge of bassk pickups really though and I dunno what I would want if I were to replace.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cort-E-Bass-Action-Junior-High-Shine/dp/B007SUQV9O (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cort-E-Bass-Action-Junior-High-Shine/dp/B007SUQV9O)
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You know when I play a gig sometimes and some guy in another band will come up to me and look at my guitar to see what I'm playing, then quickly walk away when they see it's a Squier! That attitude kills me lol
I get this sometimes, usually with the Ibanez Les Paul or the aforementioned Cphiphone Vee. Guitar SNOBBERY!!
Cool story Tomy :thumb-up:
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Thank you Dante !
I have this bass!! I love it!! If I could get a pickup to fit it I would may be upgrade. I have no knowledge of bassk pickups really though and I dunno what I would want if I were to replace.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cort-E-Bass-Action-Junior-High-Shine/dp/B007SUQV9O (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cort-E-Bass-Action-Junior-High-Shine/dp/B007SUQV9O)
Hey RG, as I understand it's a passive bass (volume+tone) like my yamaha was before. So just replace the tone pot by EMG BTC stacked pot, you will get Lou Ferrigno's bass ! :thumb-up:
Just make sure to have enough room for the battery.
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I get this sometimes, usually with the Ibanez Les Paul or the aforementioned Cphiphone Vee. Guitar SNOBBERY!!
Cool story Tomy :thumb-up:
Hey man, that pisses me off!! It is snobbery. I find it exists a lot with guitar people. The one time I remember this the most was when I was doin a show in quite a prestigious venue here in Belfast, called the Ulster Hall. I never thought I would play this venue in a million years but I got the chance to when an opportunity came up to represent an unsigned act for a 6 band show case consisting of signed acts and unsigned acts. I was setting up for sound check and a guitarist from one of the "signed acts" came over to look at my guitar, I could see he was curious and probably thought I was playing some 80's Charvel or Kramer. He knelt down and looked at the headstock and seemed like he was about to say "oh are you playing a...... no it's a Squier" then walked away. I read the situation without even speaking to him. He was about to strike up a conversation until he realised what I was playing. I'm not even going to say what he was playing as some people might get offended as they have a similar guitar, but you couldn't pay me enough to play the stupid looking axe he had.
Anyways screw that! Some younger kids come up to me and initially are surprised I'm playing a Squier but they don't react with the same snobbery, they seem to take it onboard like "oh shit this guy sounds good, what's he using? A Squier Showmaster? Dam I gotta look out for one of them me thinks" :)
I received a lot of compliments about my tone last gig I played at Easter, all the young kids. Some said we had the best sound of the day, someone said "it sounded like a CD playing". I think this was the stereo effects. Must have made an impact :o
Hey Tomy, I was hoping you had another suggestion for bass pickups? Never been into Active pups, batteries and shit! That's a pain in the ass! Any other suggestions? I can only use something that will fit in that cavity as well so it will need to be right size. It's a mightey mite soap bar pup in their currently. It's ok but I find the trebel side are always louder than the bass side and this pisses me off >:(
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I totally agree on upgrading a cheaper axe. I bought my ESP for like $300 new it had shitty ESP pickups in it originally. I bought because I liked the neck and the feel of it. It is well balanced and not too heavy. At first I put a Super Distortion in it. A major improvement but not exactly what I wanted, so then I put a JB trembucker in it. Holy shit!!! that's the tone I wanted. Kinda like a ESP Lynch model with screaming demons in it. So now my $300 cheapo sounds like a $1000 axe! My Jackson's weren't cheap, Especially my USA made Soloist with EMG's and it's probably only my third favorite out of the 4. I actually like my cheap ESP better.
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Hey guys ! This thread is awesome :thumb-up:
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Well i wonder,i never played an epifone,how does it compare to a gibson?
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MJ... one day... if you build and sell a lot of MDRT, you ' ll have enough money to afford your own Epiphone. And you will not need to play again on a cheap Gibson ;D
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Ha great :lol: :thumb-up:
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Of course a long time ago Epiphone were a brand unto themselves and made some very nice guitars. So these days they tend to be the cheap Gibson range (ala Fender Squire). They cost around $900 ish in Australia (the fixed neck models, the bolt ons are less). They are nice guitars, as with lots of the Asian built guitars the hardware is cheap as they are built to a price point. They are good candidates for an upgrade, I've played/set up a few. My SG is an Epiphone, I had the neck shaved and new frets (go figure one was bent when I got it)/PUs/Tuners/Bridge/Nut so if you can find one for a decent price (IIRC I payed $250 for it).
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...and the :thumb-up:se are great guitar
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It just goes to show you guy's! That's a great story Soloist BTW
But seriously, those £1000 guitar player types are out their looking down their noses at us!!
The first record I came across where I say a big name playing a Squier Strat was on Accept's Metal Heart. This made me think, hell if Wolf Hoffman is playing a Squier then they must be ok!! He moved on to a million other guitars since but again it just goes to show you.
For Christmas last year my girlfriend bought me this no namer! Because it was green. There is much randomness about this guitar. I'm still trying to work out if it is any good or not. It seems well made but some savings have been made on hardware. Howeve the pickups are Wilkinsons, and the most insanely loud passive pups! The guitar had no tone control, so the pups ran wide open! f**king too much trebel for me! So I was real clever and fitted a concentric post that allowed me to have a two tiered control, so the bottom one was a tone control for both pups and the top was a volume. Then I got the two tiered control knob (which is ugly) and hell it worked like a dream!! However......................
I got not fit the pot in initially and I had to do quite a bit of jiggery pokery by grinding down some wood in the existing hole for the pot. When I ground down a few extra millimeters, my new concentric pot was able to sit deep enough for the shafts to poke through the other side of the body far enough so as the concentric control knob could be fitted properly and have room to turn!
The guitar only says one thing on the head stock! Jack Butler. It is modeled apparently on Steve Vai guitar (I am no fan of Vai BTW) called the "Green Meanie" which I think was in the movie he was in with the Karate Kid guy. Anyone shed any ight on this for me? The guitar looks like a Charvel strat to me. It is strangely made up of regular household screws as opposed to guitar screw types. Which kinda makes me believe this was a guitar somebody built for a project and then decided to sell on.
Even more bizarre! The guitar has a locking trem that has a floyd rose logo on it! But this trem is not a floyd rose. It looks like the trems on my Stagemasters/Showmasters. But somehow the floyd rose logo is properly embossed on the trem base plate! So someone with some skills went to a lot of trouble to do certain things on this axe. I am determined to get it playing the way I like. I may swap the pups out, I dunno! You can see this guitar in the video I was in from another Thread. It's like a green metallic colour!
@ Richard
If I recal guitars like Orville and Greco where companies that turned into Epiphone. The Greco's are big in Sweden form some reason, seem to be a lot of them out there according to the band I toured with last year who where from Sweden. Their bassist had a rickenbacker copy which was a Greco.
Epihones - Never really enjoyed any Epiphones I played, they are decent guitars though I will say that much. I think Squier is better value for money though. Epi's are near twice the price of a basic Squier.
When I went to buy a flying V that I could afford, I basically was looking at the Epiphone version. However after much research, I found out Tokai's Flying V copies where better than Epiphones. So I bought a Tokai Flying V instead. It also looked nice with the older style Head stock as to the very pointy Epiphone flying V. The Tokai FV40 was modeled on the 1969 Flying V where as the Epiphone versions I was looking at seemed to be their own modern take on the Flying V, kinda like the Gibson USA newer Flying V's (which I don't like). In saying this I have seen some nice Epiphone FV's since. I nearly bought one a few years ago, nearly! I'm currently not getting anymore axes until I flog (sell :lol:) two I no longer want.
Then I'll may be pickup another nice Westone or my dream Fender HM that I've mentioned to Tomy before!! They have to be in great condition though or else I aint interested. Have thought about getting a fender Talon also see below
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tNu78SMKH6I/TRH23ORZwbI/AAAAAAAAEQg/1OU9Mqdc4I8/s1600/heartfield+talon+II.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tNu78SMKH6I/TRH23ORZwbI/AAAAAAAAEQg/1OU9Mqdc4I8/s1600/heartfield+talon+II.jpg)
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/profile_mojo_data/3/4/4/8/344818/pics/_c625397_image_0.jpg (http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/profile_mojo_data/3/4/4/8/344818/pics/_c625397_image_0.jpg)
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But seriously, those £1000 guitar player types are out their looking down their noses at us!!
I play £1000 guitars, and I certainly don't look down my nose at guitarists with lesser priced guitar, and neither do other musicians in my circle, we're just trying to improve are instruments, whether by upgrading or buying better quality.
I think you've developed a seriously big f*ckin' potato sized chip on your shoulder RG, and the bad attitude is worse than the people you're complaining about :nono:
Why should forum members be encouraged to post pics of their favourite axe (that they've worked damned hard to afford and are very proud of) on this site when we have this sort of attitude lurking in the background :amaze:
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Well that's good that you don't.
I think you have taken my comments personally for some reason. If you are a £1000 guitar player and don't look down your nose at lesser expensive intruments then my comments don't conern you do they? Nope they don't since you don't have that snobbey attitude right? You can spend what you like on guitars, I don't care, I'm just saying I don't like people who judge on the price tag or brand name of an instrument and there are lots and lots of those people out there and online.
Why should forum members be encouraged to post pics of their favourite axe (that they've worked damned hard to afford and are very proud of) on this site when we have this sort of attitude lurking in the background :amaze:
I have nothing against forum members posting pics of their guitars so I don't appreciate this comment? If I don't like some guitars in photos I sure as hell don't blast someone because of it. I find you accusation incredible insulting, you sound like your telling teacher on me? I have never once said to anyone on here "hey I hate you and your expensive guitars please remove your photos".
I'm entitled to not like guitarists being snobbey, it's none of your business.
As for a chip on my shoulder :lol: you sound like you're the one with a chip on your shoulder.
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The guitar only says one thing on the head stock! Jack Butler. It is modeled apparently on Steve Vai guitar (I am no fan of Vai BTW) called the "Green Meanie"
That head cutting duel Vai did in that movie was awesome. I believe it was a candy apple red charvel he uses in the movie crossroads. Check out the clip here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYW177hXFE8
Green meanie, beings your such a Priest fan you should name it the Green Manalishi!
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@Soloist, that's a good idea :thumb-up: I have never watched that movie. I just worked out today after mentioning the guitar that Vai played a character called Jack Butler in the movie. My guitar just looks like the same body as the Charvel only Green.
I really love that song, well the Priest version. It's only a matter of time before someone else will chimes in with "but Green Manalishi is a Fleetwood Mac song" :lol:
I've a few more things to do to the guitar before I can properly assess if I like it or not. I can't get rid as my gfriend will cut my balls off if I do :facepalm:
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The Fleetwood Mac version is meh, but the Priest version kicks ass. I play that one all the time :metal:
I've a few more things to do to the guitar before I can properly assess if I like it or not. I can't get rid as my gfriend will cut my balls off if I do
That's not an image I want to think about. :lol:
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hhahahha I'm sure you don't Soloist, no bloody balls for you :facepalm: or me for that matter.
Hey I appreciate Peter Green and his blues genius, but in reality, I'm not into FWM.
But I am into Judas Priest and of course I love their version. They made it kinda their own didn't they? Same with "Diamonds and Rust".
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Ha "Diamonds and Rust" or how a folk song turns into a metal song.I remember when i first heard the original JoanBaez version of it,i was WTF :facepalm:
Now they made it good with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wGlbYpBQdQ
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But seriously, those £1000 guitar player types are out their looking down their noses at us!!
I play £1000 guitars, and I certainly don't look down my nose at guitarists with lesser priced guitar, and neither do other musicians in my circle, we're just trying to improve are instruments, whether by upgrading or buying better quality.
I think you've developed a seriously big f*ckin' potato sized chip on your shoulder RG, and the bad attitude is worse than the people you're complaining about :nono:
Why should forum members be encouraged to post pics of their favourite axe (that they've worked damned hard to afford and are very proud of) on this site when we have this sort of attitude lurking in the background :amaze:
Well that's good that you don't.
I think you have taken my comments personally for some reason. If you are a £1000 guitar player and don't look down your nose at lesser expensive intruments then my comments don't conern you do they? Nope they don't since you don't have that snobbey attitude right? You can spend what you like on guitars, I don't care, I'm just saying I don't like people who judge on the price tag or brand name of an instrument and there are lots and lots of those people out there and online.
Why should forum members be encouraged to post pics of their favourite axe (that they've worked damned hard to afford and are very proud of) on this site when we have this sort of attitude lurking in the background :amaze:
I have nothing against forum members posting pics of their guitars so I don't appreciate this comment? If I don't like some guitars in photos I sure as hell don't blast someone because of it. I find you accusation incredible insulting, you sound like your telling teacher on me? I have never once said to anyone on here "hey I hate you and your expensive guitars please remove your photos".
I'm entitled to not like guitarists being snobbey, it's none of your business.
As for a chip on my shoulder :lol: you sound like you're the one with a chip on your shoulder.
That went well then :thumb-up:
I was simply responding to what you had written RG. I even quoted what you had written so there would be no misunderstanding ... and yet we seem to have a misunderstanding :facepalm: Read it again please, word for word.
You wrote that "£1000 guitar player types are out their looking down their noses at us". Well I am one of those types who plays £1000 guitars, as are many other guitar players ... and I find this broad sweeping statement that we are in some way looking down our noses at you to be very rude and insulting >:D Hence my response.
Now, had you of written ... "£1000 guitar snobs are really looking down their noses at us" ... I would have understood where you were coming from. I don't like guitar snobbery either. But I accept that there's always going to be a difference of opinion on these matters.
Based on what you did actually write ... I was trying to put myself in the position of being a new forum member, or somebody considering becoming a forum member, and reading your derogatory comments in this thread regarding £1000 guitar player types. Hence why I commented about posting pics of guitars ... it was more of a question than an accusation RG. Would you feel comfortable posting pics of your pride and joy £1000 guitar after reading this thread?
RG re-read this thread again ... can you really not see the chip? I mean ... really?
El posted a really good topic earlier this year ...
ADA Forum Rocks http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=1343.0 (http://adadepot.com/index.php?topic=1343.0)
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After some consideration ... it's not worth the effort, it's like a Faceb**k social media drama.
Apologies if I irritated your pineal gland :lol:
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I pm'd you about this BTW to trying to clear this up. You either didn't/haven't read it or still don't understand.
I think now you are trying to be funny and failing.
Honestly making a big deal out of the fact I said "types" as opposed to "snobs" is trivial, most people I'm sure got what I meant. I'm really very sorry you thought "types" referred to you. How inconsiderate of me to post such a casually thought out message :o
Also who the hell posts on here thinking about what new potential members might think of their statements? I certainly do not.
I'm not typing this right now worried that some guy thinking about joining is goin to get put off because I have an opinion? What's that all about?
After some consideration ... it's not worth the effort, it's like a Faceb**k social media drama.
Apologies if I irritated your pineal gland :lol:
I felt it was worth it to justify myself and defend myself against someone clearly trying to make an example of me.
@Richard
I'm sorry mate I've tarnished your post a bit. Apologies.
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Well I had no idea it would stir the pot that much LoL But hey I don't mind, I'm Australian, we like to do that (though obviously that wasn't my intention). What I don't want is bad blood between our members :nono: :wave: . I haven't come across too much guitar snobbery (over 45 years), but I probably wouldn't give a shit, I tend to know more about guitars than they do, its always been about doing the best you can with the least $s, well for me. But along the way I became better informed and built and repaired guitars, and you never stop learning. There are a bunch of price points for commercial instruments, and these days we are spoiled for choice. A big turning point for me was when I first played the Anderson ProAm, I was building guitars back then (wrecks you hands unfortunately :facepalm: ), I thought maybe I could build a guitar as good as this, but not better. Fortuitously I ended up buying it (now we are joined at the hip), took me a few years to pay it off.... What I was trying to say in previous post was there are some seriously good guitars around which "are" better than cheap an cheer fulls done up, they are also better than $2000 guitars, I've been fortunate enough to have 2, but you know what, I love my Jap Silhouette Tele, and my $99 Jap Anson strat. And hey this is not to pay out the $2000 guitars, there are many nice instruments around this price point (typically with quite good hardware/wood :thumb-up: ). One thing I would say though is guitars are "very" personal.