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MP1 - > Midiverb II -> UX2?
Chip Roberts:
Greetings ADA enthusiasts! I've been stalking the board as a non-member for quite some time now. I have an MP1 version 2.01 that I'm trying to use with a Midiverb II which goes in stereo through the line inputs of my Line 6 UX2. I can get some beautiful tones out of it, but it sounds temperamental and I'm sure I'm doing something wrong; so a few questions.
1. Do I use the MP1 loop or just the A/B outputs?
2. Do I use TRS (line) cables to hook all the crap together, or just regular guitar cables?
3. Where do I adjust my master volume? I usually have the volume on the MP1 at a reasonably low amount and then use the input and output on the MV2 to adjust accordingly - this usually gets me serious clipping and my dynamics get crushed.
It worked once (see video below), so any help would be appreciated as this is my first real rack and I'm in love with it and am building an entire rig around it (see video below).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ZXWAFSkCU
rnolan:
Hey Chip Roberts, welcome to the depot :wave: . So the line 6 thing is a PC audio interface (basically a AD/DA convertor) for recording. Ideally you need to run the signal through a can sim before it hits the Line 6 inputs. The MP-1 is designed to be used live through poweramps and guitar speakers (which don't have top end like full range monitors do). Easiest way is put an ADA GCS3 in the MP-1 loop and then the main A/B outs are cab simmed for you (suitable for recording).
Cables from the MP-1 are unbalanced TS (except the line in on the back of the V1 MP-1s, which is balanced) (TRS) so regular cables are fine.
The MP-1 will sound better in stereo (A/B outs, these are line level (unless V1 MP-1 where you can switch between line and inst levels)).
You should run the MP-1 around 12 o'clock or more to provide good signal to the inputs of the MV2 (adjust the input and output on the MV2 to accommodate (not clip the MV2 input or UX2 input (ie MV2 out feeds UX2 in)))). The MV2 mix knob adjusts how much wet (fx) signal is mixed into the MP-1 signal, ie how much Fxs in the sound).
However, in your case, initially (until you get a cab sim), I'd take the headphone out (TRS) split it into 2 mono feeds to the MV2 (so insert lead). The HP out is a bit cab simmed (not as good as the GCS3 etc) and will work better for recording until you sort it out.
MikeB:
Hi Chip,
I run a very similar setup. I have UX1 so the principle is more or less the same.
Run the ada outs in to the mv2 inputs. The mv2 outputs into the 2 line inputs on the back of the ux2. Then open up the pod farm, select a dual input (one for line 1 and one for line 2) and pick a quad box for each signal path. The pod farm will throw a power amp in front of the quad box. This is your cabinet simulator. then go to the mixer panel and pan line 1 hard left and line 2 hard right. Go crazy. I run an ada gcs3 in my mp1 loop for situations where I need to go direct. However I found that if I went into pod farm and just ran the signal straight through to the outputs with nothing on there that it didn't sound very good. I supect that the A/D conversion is dodgy and this can be masked by using a pod farm element (in this case a nice pair of quad boxes), so I don't use the gcs3 when I'm using the ux1. There are a multitude of variables, so i have just tried to give you a basic plan.
I hope that helps.
Mike
Chip Roberts:
Thanks dudes! Right now I'm running it very similar to how MikeB recommended, but I'm not familiar with the "quad box" you're referring to. I run it through POD Farm and then out into two cab sims, one with V30s and one with T75s (double tracked of course!). This is the first I've heard of the GCS3, I'll have to check that out, but will probably be transitioning to a miked setup as I've just had a 2X12 built (WGS Retro 30 and HM75) and will be moving into a new apartment soon.
Follow up question regarding MIDI controllers. I'm only interested in a 4 button, and the Fender Cyber Twin footswitch seems to fit the bill, would any of you happen to know if this would be compatible with the MP1? Will any footswitch with a MIDI cable work?
Harley Hexxe:
Hi Chip,
That four button switch would only work with the Fender Cyber series amps. The way the Fender MIDI is set up in the Cyber amps is to be able to save four presets to that switch. None of the ADA's have that program feature in their MIDI SYSEX, so I'm not sure what that switch would do with the ADA gear. I suppose I could plug mine into one of my ADA's and see if it does anything at all.
Fender's MIDI is unlike any other MIDI on the market. They only have up to 50 preset locations total in the Cyber amps, and half of them are not able to be edited. They are permanent in the memory with whatever tones and effects are programmed in the library. Any edits you make and want to save are saved in the user library which is the 2nd half of the memory preset locations.
Harley 8)
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