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Title: MP-1 - volume drop/chorus
Post by: Joe P. on September 04, 2016, 04:04:20 PM
Hi All - does anyone experience an ever so slight drop in volume level when engaging the chorus on the MP-1?  I'm talking a very slight drop, but definitely a noticeable change in level - not drastic though.  I have four (4) original MP-1's... three are V2 running the 2.01 firmware, and one (1) is V1 running the 1.38 firmware.  I've spent a lot of time with the T4 trimpot - still notice an ever so slight drop once the chorus is turned on regardless of where I set T4.  This happens on SS and both tube voices.
Title: Re: MP-1 - volume drop/chorus
Post by: rnolan on September 05, 2016, 01:58:32 AM
Hey Joe, are you running it in stereo ?  The stereo chorus is where the MP1 becomes (pseudo) stereo. My thought is that if you are running it in mono, the chorus will be directing some of the signal to the other channel (which in mono is not being used).  Try a pair of headphones (which will be stereo) and compare ?
Title: Re: MP-1 - volume drop/chorus
Post by: Joe P. on September 05, 2016, 05:26:04 AM
Hi! I'm running it in mono.  I forgot to mention in my post that I did try with my headphones and it sounds absolutely amazing... unreal!  Is there a specific output on the MP-1 that I should be using when running mono to get the best sound from the chorus and overall best sound from the unit?  From my guitar I usually just go straight in to the front input, then output "A" on the back to one of my B200s power amps...then to an EVH 2x12 cab... or a Peavey 5150 4x12 cab.  Very simple but gives me a world of tones.  I sometimes put some reverb/delays in between or in the loop like a Boss DD-3 or DD-6 or a Boss RV-70 rack reverb... but nothing that takes away from the original magic of the MP-1.  Thank you for your help!  :)   
Title: Re: MP-1 - volume drop/chorus
Post by: MarshallJMP on September 05, 2016, 06:29:42 AM
It doesn't matter which output you use for mono,they will sound the same. Only if you use it in stereo you will be able to hear the difference. The way they do it is that after the effectloop the original signal is split into 2 signals,one signal gets mixed with the chorus signal,the other signal gets mixed with also the chorus signal but this chorus signal has a phase shift of 180°.

T4 has got nothing to do with gain,it's the bias voltage for the BBD chip. And it's best left alone if the chorus is working.

What does happen if you turn on the chorus the original signal is dropped in gain because else the signal would be higher due to the fact of the chorus signal mixed with the original signal.
Title: Re: MP-1 - volume drop/chorus
Post by: rnolan on September 05, 2016, 09:36:46 PM
What does happen if you turn on the chorus the original signal is dropped in gain because else the signal would be higher due to the fact of the chorus signal mixed with the original signal.
So you get a very small vol drop (as you are experiencing) in mono ?.  So maybe use both cabs and run in stereo (you'll never go back to mono  >:D ).  If you are worried about different speakers on each channel, you could mod the Peavy 5150s wireing and make it a stereo cab  :thumb-up: